Fantastic Mr. Fox
Don Juan
Hey all you crazy players and pick-up artists, I've got a question for you I'd really like some help with.
I think I must be living in the toughest town on Earth to get a good PU or even a dance with an attractive lady out at the clubs. Things seem really different here.
For starters, I have a friend who was telling me about his time out in the nightlife with his female friends. Guys would come and go, approach, buy drinks, try chatting the girls up, and then leave after seeing the girl wasn't interested. The girl would turn to my friend and say "Damn, that guy was creepy." So the impression I've got is "don't approach girls because in this town they find it a turn-off."
Of course, my friend didn't provide any details on how their approach was handled. If anything, they were probably total AFC's who came on too strong/too weak and had no idea how to flirt or get along with a group or make conversation etc.
Secondly, girls in this city seem to hunt in packs. The nightlife definitely seems dominated by alpha males (who tend to look for fights) and groups of girls looking for someone to f**k - usually the biggest, strongest, blackest guy in the club. This is definitely not me, so my confidence is a bit shot from the word go when I go out.
From the advice I've just been reading from the DJ Bible, the following things seem to be essential:
- Social proof. Go with a group of friends. 3-5 guys/girls (mixed?) seems a good number.
- A pivot or two. Some decent girl friend of yours who will dance with you or make you look cooler to other dumb b!tches in the club.
- At least some dancing ability. Rhythm helps. Don't be too shy and even worse, don't be too flamboyant. Last time I danced too enthusiastically an alpha male f**khead wanted to beat the crap out of me for "being a fag."
- Good approaching tactics. The classic eye-contact-then-smile approach seems to be the best.
Now here's where I stand... usually I'd go out to town with a good sized group, hopefully with a pivot or two. That's fine. Dancing I need to work on, but I remind myself that failure is just a setback to the inevitable, and practice makes perfect. I'm definitely better than what I used to be. Where I struggle is the approach and having confidence. I usually don't feel so hot when I'm in the clubs, which doesn't help. And due to the predatory nature of the girls (who have already decided who they want to take home and f**k by the time they've walked through the door), the cards sure as hell seem stacked against me.
I really need some help getting on top of my game and getting some decent pulls out in the club. If I can get a girl to dance with me, I'd be succeeding. People in this town just seem too hard to crack.
Any advice for approaching what seems an impossible situation?
Thanks
Fantastic Mr. Fox.
I think I must be living in the toughest town on Earth to get a good PU or even a dance with an attractive lady out at the clubs. Things seem really different here.
For starters, I have a friend who was telling me about his time out in the nightlife with his female friends. Guys would come and go, approach, buy drinks, try chatting the girls up, and then leave after seeing the girl wasn't interested. The girl would turn to my friend and say "Damn, that guy was creepy." So the impression I've got is "don't approach girls because in this town they find it a turn-off."
Of course, my friend didn't provide any details on how their approach was handled. If anything, they were probably total AFC's who came on too strong/too weak and had no idea how to flirt or get along with a group or make conversation etc.
Secondly, girls in this city seem to hunt in packs. The nightlife definitely seems dominated by alpha males (who tend to look for fights) and groups of girls looking for someone to f**k - usually the biggest, strongest, blackest guy in the club. This is definitely not me, so my confidence is a bit shot from the word go when I go out.
From the advice I've just been reading from the DJ Bible, the following things seem to be essential:
- Social proof. Go with a group of friends. 3-5 guys/girls (mixed?) seems a good number.
- A pivot or two. Some decent girl friend of yours who will dance with you or make you look cooler to other dumb b!tches in the club.
- At least some dancing ability. Rhythm helps. Don't be too shy and even worse, don't be too flamboyant. Last time I danced too enthusiastically an alpha male f**khead wanted to beat the crap out of me for "being a fag."
- Good approaching tactics. The classic eye-contact-then-smile approach seems to be the best.
Now here's where I stand... usually I'd go out to town with a good sized group, hopefully with a pivot or two. That's fine. Dancing I need to work on, but I remind myself that failure is just a setback to the inevitable, and practice makes perfect. I'm definitely better than what I used to be. Where I struggle is the approach and having confidence. I usually don't feel so hot when I'm in the clubs, which doesn't help. And due to the predatory nature of the girls (who have already decided who they want to take home and f**k by the time they've walked through the door), the cards sure as hell seem stacked against me.
I really need some help getting on top of my game and getting some decent pulls out in the club. If I can get a girl to dance with me, I'd be succeeding. People in this town just seem too hard to crack.
Any advice for approaching what seems an impossible situation?
Thanks
Fantastic Mr. Fox.
