The opposite of love is not anger, it's indifference,does that mean all anger is good

[drift king]

if a girl u just started dating is angry with you can that be a good sign of an emotional response with you?

i messed up with this girl, annoyed the hell out of her acting afc she was literally furious gritting her teeth holding back to tell me off, now when i pass her she avoids me completely pretends she doesn't see me by playing with her phone.

im not going to fall for that stuff, so i say hi to her.

can such anger be a good sign in any scenarios?

im not saying i'll get her but she seems way too angry for someone to not care so much, ok i get the message, she doesn't want anything to do with me right now hence her blanking me etc, but when i said hi, she looks up and gives me an evil stare. i actually found it quite funny.

maybe she wanted an apology, but real men dont apologise from what i read, or even explain. admit i was wrong, but not apologise. however no matter how i come up to say it'll just sound like an apology so i did nothing.

 

[DarthNihilus]

The reason you don't apologize to a woman whose acting angry is because it validates her anger and makes you into an even bigger horse's ass in her eyes.

Its like a great quote Desdinova used to have in his sig...

"Rewarding a woman for bad behavior is like rewarding your dog for sh!tting on the carpet."

Just ignore her and move onto someone else.

This chick may become a prospect for you in the future but right now as you said you AFC'd it up and she's currently disgusted.

Back off, move on and who knows what may happen down the road?

She may end up in your bed one day after all.

You just gotta kill that AFC inside of you first.

And once you move on to someone new she may become attracted to you again sooner rather than later as you getting with another chick effortlessly and moving on gives you a massive status boost in a woman's eyes.

In other words because a new chick desires you it may make the old one want you again because by getting with the new chick it proves you are worth something, worth being conquered and explored by the old girl lol.

 

[drift king]

The reason you don't apologize to a woman whose acting angry is because it validates her anger and makes you into an even bigger horse's ass in her eyes.

Its like a great quote Desdinova used to have in his sig...

"Rewarding a woman for bad behavior is like rewarding your dog for sh!tting on the carpet."

Just ignore her and move onto someone else.

This chick may become a prospect for you in the future but right now as you said you AFC'd it up and she's currently disgusted.

Back off, move on and who knows what may happen down the road?

She may end up in your bed one day after all.

You just gotta kill that AFC inside of you first.

And once you move on to someone new she may become attracted to you again sooner rather than later as you getting with another chick effortlessly and moving on gives you a massive status boost in a woman's eyes.

In other words because a new chick desires you it may make the old one want you again because by getting with the new chick it proves you are worth something, worth being conquered and explored by the old girl lol.

but does the new girl have to be at least good looking or better looking than the old one..?

i dont think she'd feel threatened if the new girls is less attractive than her..

 

[evoken]

but does the new girl have to be at least good looking or better looking than the old one..?

i dont think she'd feel threatened if the new girls is less attractive than her..

She will still feel threatened but not as much if you were to pull a hot piece of ass.

 

[drift king]

The reason you don't apologize to a woman whose acting angry is because it validates her anger and makes you into an even bigger horse's ass in her eyes.

Its like a great quote Desdinova used to have in his sig...

"Rewarding a woman for bad behavior is like rewarding your dog for sh!tting on the carpet."

Just ignore her and move onto someone else.

This chick may become a prospect for you in the future but right now as you said you AFC'd it up and she's currently disgusted.

Back off, move on and who knows what may happen down the road?

She may end up in your bed one day after all.

You just gotta kill that AFC inside of you first.

And once you move on to someone new she may become attracted to you again sooner rather than later as you getting with another chick effortlessly and moving on gives you a massive status boost in a woman's eyes.

In other words because a new chick desires you it may make the old one want you again because by getting with the new chick it proves you are worth something, worth being conquered and explored by the old girl lol.

the scenario is that i had a 2nd date with this girl on monday, it went great but she didnt trust me that i liked her for her and maybe only wanted her for 1 thing and cos her nationality.

i f'd up the next day cos i was trying to avoid seeing her on campus and i overdid and hid away, then later i saw her and said hi and went up to her which i shouldn't. she asked me to sit down. i did. she was watching a film on her laptop and had earphones in her ear and appeared to be ignoring me (which turned out not to be the case). i didnt know what to do in that situation so i was stuck there frozen not sure whether to go or stay.

i asked her what was wrong, she told me nothing and she was just busy. i didn't believe her cos it seemed like BS but i kept pressing and she got annoyed and more angry, eventually she told me she wasnt watching this film for fun and it was for work which she had a meeting for in an hour. im not a mind reader how am i suppose to know that?!

it got to such a bad situation where she was literally gritting her teeth about to yell at me in front of everyone. i left and said goodbye, however i did still ask if we were still on the next night.. haha.. that was so weak.

that night should i have explained the misunderstanding or said something to that effect?

anyway, since then she's been ignoring me pretending to be on the phone as she passes by so can avoid eye contact with me. yesterday as she did it i said hey and walked on, she looked up and gave me an evil stare.

last night i saw her on a date with another guy, walking back to campus. that should have been me, that was my night with her prearranged. however she still may have gone out with this guy regardless but i dont think he'll f up.

do you think i should confront her about why shes still so angry?

or would she just keep carrying on walking?

even if u call out a girl on her BS and same politely in a calm voice, 'fine be a spoilt immature little ***** then, you're 24 years old you need to grow up.' is this stuff just going to validate to her i was affected by her actions?

i felt a 1 to 1 talk would explain the misunderstanding but im shocked by how much animosity she has for me..

 

[Sir Shinra]

She doesn't respect you... at all. She was being a ***** to you and you just asked her what was wrong, as if she deserved sympathy and not a metaphorical kick in the ass. You never called her out for disrespecting you, and now are reinforcing it by acting AFC.

She doesn't deserve your attention. Drop this chick, take a DJ boot camp, and if you run into her again, be a complete and total **** to her every time.

The opposite of love is disrespect.

 

[Deadly_Ripped]

She's trying to send you a very clear signal: stop talking to or looking at her. She is not trying to play hard to get or waiting for an apology. Those things come after she has a preference for you. So far you seem to show that she doesn't care about you and so she's trying to be unamibiguous.

If this happened to me I'd say **** her and I wouldn't consider her when thinking about the next girl I'm getting with. It doesn't matter whether or not you make her jealous, because she's not in the picture anymore.

BTW why do you care so much why or if she's angry? You've only been on 2 dates, and it takes a LONG time to know a person. You don't really know her, and you won't, so it's no tangible loss to you, so forget it and get on to something else.

 

[horaholic]

i respectfully disagree. The fact that she is so emotional towards you is a good thing. If she was truly indifferent, she wouldnt give a rats ass about you, and would actually TRY to avoid you. Play your cards right, and you can turn this into attraction. Like I said in your other thread, think about the movies, where the guy and girl cant stand each other, and then it turns into lust, and they fvck.

This works a lot better on chicks you have never gone out with, but you can use this to your advantage, if you apologize in a sexual, and alpha way, you can make this chick melt.

Anger can be turned into lust. Why do you think make up sex is so good? Because all the anger is transformed into lust and attraction.

Think about why she's mad at you: because you avoided her. She's not seeing this as an AFC move on your part, or she wouldnt feel anything. If she didnt give a shyt, she wouldnt be mad at all. She's mad because you didnt give her attention, and its boiling inside her. She is seeing this as an alpha trait on your part, even though it wasnt. She is seeing it as indifference by you, so she thinks you dont give a rats ass about her, and she wants you to prove her wrong.

Pretend your James Bond, and grab her and say (in the most alpha way, you can muster) your sorry, and TELL her to forgive you. As soon you can see in her eyes that she forgives you, grab her and kiss her. Done deal.

Most of the times Ive gotten laid, is with a girl I didnt like, who I was a dyck to, then turned around on her, and it drove the chick wild. Its the same concept as why chicks stick with the jerks. Because they stir their emotions.

 

[drift king]

i respectfully disagree. The fact that she is so emotional towards you is a good thing. If she was truly indifferent, she wouldnt give a rats ass about you, and would actually TRY to avoid you. Play your cards right, and you can turn this into attraction. Like I said in your other thread, think about the movies, where the guy and girl cant stand each other, and then it turns into lust, and they fvck.

This works a lot better on chicks you have never gone out with, but you can use this to your advantage, if you apologize in a sexual, and alpha way, you can make this chick melt.

Anger can be turned into lust. Why do you think make up sex is so good? Because all the anger is transformed into lust and attraction.

Think about why she's mad at you: because you avoided her. She's not seeing this as an AFC move on your part, or she wouldnt feel anything. If she didnt give a shyt, she wouldnt be mad at all. She's mad because you didnt give her attention, and its boiling inside her. She is seeing this as an alpha trait on your part, even though it wasnt. She is seeing it as indifference by you, so she thinks you dont give a rats ass about her, and she wants you to prove her wrong.

Pretend your James Bond, and grab her and say (in the most alpha way, you can muster) your sorry, and TELL her to forgive you. As soon you can see in her eyes that she forgives you, grab her and kiss her. Done deal.

Most of the times Ive gotten laid, is with a girl I didnt like, who I was a dyck to, then turned around on her, and it drove the chick wild. Its the same concept as why chicks stick with the jerks. Because they stir their emotions.

but she was mad cos i was pestering her while she was watching a film on her laptop (which was for work reasons not fun but took me about 20 times of her telling me she was busy) and cos i didnt leave her alone she got furious, so the avoiding thing i dont think made her mad?

 

[horaholic]

well, thats not so much 'mad,' as annoyed. annoying someone is not good. that drops your value in their eyes. when chicks are 'mad' at you, it doesnt drop their attraction level for you, and you can always just say sorry, and it will be over with.

She is annoyed with you, and apologies dont really work with that. You need to just let it blow over.

Why the hell is there so much drama over such petty crap though?

 

[drift king]

well, thats not so much 'mad,' as annoyed. annoying someone is not good. that drops your value in their eyes. when chicks are 'mad' at you, it doesnt drop their attraction level for you, and you can always just say sorry, and it will be over with.

She is annoyed with you, and apologies dont really work with that. You need to just let it blow over.

Why the hell is there so much drama over such petty crap though?

she has a short temper and so do i, but shes avoiding me cos she was annoyed and looks mad but after reading your other post i was all ready to go have it out with her but now after reading this 1 im not so sure haha..

so do u suggest i have it out with her? despite her being annoyed/mad

i thought i'd just confront her next time i see her and tell her what i did was wrong pestering her when she told me 20 times shes busy cos i didnt believe she was watching this film for anything other than fun and was ignoring me. she wasn't/isnt seeing it from my perspective, maybe i should tell her to stop being a spollt little b1tch and think about it from a different perspective for once.. however this will just make her furious, which might be a good thing but will show i was affected by her spoilt little behavior, though i guess it'll show that im going to call her out on it?

 

[Igetit!]

she has a short temper and so do i, but shes avoiding me cos she was annoyed and looks mad...


so do u suggest i have it out with her? despite her being annoyed/mad

This is ridicoulous. ALL OF THIS GOING ON BETWEEN YOU AND HER...the annoying her,her having a short temper,her avoiding you,all the anger and tension here just let's her know how things would be if she were to get deeper involved with you.


If this is how things are at the beginning,what makes you think they're going to get any better later on down the line?

i thought i'd just confront her next time i see her and tell her what i did was wrong pestering her when she told me 20 times shes busy cos i didnt believe she was watching this film for anything other than fun and was ignoring me.

Oh,so now you want to confront her? Let's say you do confront her. Ok,so once you've done that,what is it you're hoping will happen afterwards? If you've annoyed her AND she's not attracted to you,you getting in her face to confront her will most likely annoy her even more.



It may even get to the point of her despising you.

she wasn't/isnt seeing it from my perspective, maybe i should tell her to stop being a spollt little b1tch and think about it from a different perspective for once.. however this will just make her furious

You're right,if probably will make her more angry. You understand that,but you still don't get it.


If what you eventually want from ALL THIS is for you and her to date,how do you plan to make that happen with all this hostility in the way?



Most couple have this kind of thing happen after being together for a while,you two have it starting off.



Yes,stirring up anger in a woman can be a good thing,but stirring up anger while simultaneously DEVALUING YOURSELF isn't good.



You'd probably have a better chance of you just left her alone and moved on.


That is,if you have any chance at all.

 

[drift king]

well, thats not so much 'mad,' as annoyed. annoying someone is not good. that drops your value in their eyes. when chicks are 'mad' at you, it doesnt drop their attraction level for you, and you can always just say sorry, and it will be over with.

She is annoyed with you, and apologies dont really work with that. You need to just let it blow over.

Why the hell is there so much drama over such petty crap though?

like u said she was annoyed with me rather than mad, so i just let it blow over.. my value dropped in her eyes. without social proof her seeing me with a new hot girl i doubt it's going to stir any emotions in her to value me higher.

right now it seems as if the incident has blown over given her reaction to me today as per my other thread, do u think shes curious why im not all over her anymore (despite her telling me to leave her alone in not so many words)?

maybe she misses that attention as annoying as it was..

also, shes leaving on thursday for a week or so to visit her friends in another part of the country and i feel as if i need to do a big move or something so thats shes thinking about me while shes away?

i already know shes dating some other guy from friday night but unless i get some social proofing from a hot female friend or a new hot girl she wont feel jealous or threatened.. is this necessary?

 

[drift king]

well, thats not so much 'mad,' as annoyed. annoying someone is not good. that drops your value in their eyes. when chicks are 'mad' at you, it doesnt drop their attraction level for you, and you can always just say sorry, and it will be over with.

She is annoyed with you, and apologies dont really work with that. You need to just let it blow over.

Why the hell is there so much drama over such petty crap though?

i've let the situation blow over so its best probably not to bring this issue up again unless of course she starts avoiding me again, then i assume having it out is definitely necessary?

 

[sodbuster]

You seem to be a little slow on the uptake. First you annoy her when she's working/studying and can't take the hint. Next,she avoids you to keep from being pestered and you are pissed. Now, if she avoids you again[in your thoughts-not hers,she may actually be busy and have things to do], you think you may need to have it out with her? What is there to have it out with her over?She may have thought you were OK until you pestered her,then you became a loser and she avoided you. NOW, you may be back to about even,but if SHE avoids you you will pick a fight? Great thought! You will confirm her decision you are a "pain in the azz" and she will never want anything to do with you ever again.Sounds like something a woman would do[picking a fight over nothing]

She's dating someone else. You lost for now[and probably forever]. Get that thought in your head.