The only Power a Woman has is the Power you give them

[STR8UP]

All of this talk about "getting rid of an AMOG" when you don't even like the chick and "giving her a piece of your mind" before you walk away got me thinking.

Do women REALLY have that much power over you?

Think about it. A real man doesn't have to PROVE he is a man. He knows he is. A real man doesn't have to get the last word in when he knows it will fall n deaf ears.

What good does it do to get all emotional over some dude hitting on your female FRIEND or cursing out a chick that disrespected you that you are gonna dump anyway?

Women generally don't give two sh!ts about you. They are self absorbed, and they live in their own little world that consists of attaching their self worth to the attention they get from men.

So when your lady friend gets hit on by some drunken jackass that thinks he can muscle his way into your convo, is it best to sit there and try to "defend" your ego by telling him "run along little boy, your momma's calling", or simply get up and make yourself scarce for awhile, letting your lady friend come to find you when she finally blows him out of the water?

Or how about when she disrespects you and you realize you need to dump her ass? The way I see it you have three choices. 1) Calmly explain that you won't tolerate that kind of disrespect, and promptly head toward the door 2) Scream your head off telling her just how much of a b!tch she is, make her cry a little bit, then storm off like the emotional basketcase you are (and I have been that basketcase so I'm not talking out of my ass here) or 3) Walk away without uttering a word.

Choice #1 isn't bad, but do you think you really accomplished anything?

Choice #2 makes you look like a pu$$y who has no control over his emotions.

Choice #3 leaves the ball in YOUR court, it makes her think "OMG...he must not have cared as much as I thought he did! What should I do? I was expecting him to lose it and now he just walks away? From ME??? How dare he!" and allows you to retain a little bit of dignity from a situation where you were wronged.

You see, if women actually held themselves accountable for their actions, this would be a different ballgame. But due to the simple fact that a woman is only capable of being sorry she got caught and not sorry for her actions, what satisfaction do you derive from stooping to the level of a middle school kid who was just humiliated by a classmate?

One thing you have to understand. Women CANNOT take anything away from you. You either voluntarily GIVE it away, or it stays put. This goes 10x for your sanity, your dignity, and your power.

By getting your panties in a wad over some chick you are essentially handing her all three.

 

[STR8UP]

This is why when you make a woman "dependent" upon your attention and you take it away, she gets deflated. This is why when two women like you they want to scratch each others eyes out to "win".

It's all about the inflation and deflation of that balloon. Give her lots of attention and profess your undying love, it fills her balloon.

Remove your attention or show her that you don't care nearly as much as she thinks you do, and that balloon quickly loses air.

Often, the second a woman finally sees that you are indeed prepared to cut her ass out of your life, it sends her into a state of panic.

Use this to your advantage fellas.

 

[synergy1]

One reason it gets to most people is simple, we are jealous. I'd love to have the balls to approach successfully a group of girls with a bunch of guys. Sure, I've done it, but with some and not too much success. Who wouldn't want to be able to pull girls away from a social group? that takes some skill. So what do people do when they see something they are jealous of? what everyone does, disdain. One of the laws of power from Robert Greene's book is to detest what you can not have. Its only natural. Why do you think everyone who talks about these "AMOG" with the douche bag as an adjective appearing in the same sentence.

Its not about women having power. Competition has nothing to do with it. I play sports to win, not to get girls. Of course women have a measure of power, but so do men. That has nothing to do with competition. Men will compete in any arena, not just over women. Women too compete against other women. We have all seen women try and out do other women and get the attention of a guy (they don't even want) just to out do them.

 

[mrRuckus]

and the power to make everyone hate you
and get your arrested by falsely crying rape.
the power of making you look like a jackass in public even though you didn't do anything.

they have all sorts of power.

 

[ketostix]

and the power to make everyone hate you
and get your arrested by falsely crying rape.
the power of making you look like a jackass in public even though you didn't do anything.

they have all sorts of power.

While agree with Str8up that guys have some power in walking away and acting disinterested, I think women have power. What if in that scenario of the AMOG you WERE into the girl and you walked away and come back/or she doesn't come back to you and find out she's going to hookup with the guy? So you walk away, but really even if you had multiple plates spinning she can at a snap of a finger have one of her plates come running to her. It's not as easy for guys to have and keep plates spinning in the first place and it's not as easy for men to even have those plates answering at a snap of a finger. Women have more options and they get those options wth little effort point blank. And as you mention Mr. Ruckus, add to that now they can leverage every AFC all the way to the government to put the screws to you if they want.

Also women can act as an AMOG (approach a social circle) without getting AMOGed by the social circles. Most of the time a guy will get AMOGed to some degree.

It's kind of like saying the only power your employer has is over you as a peon replacable employee is what you give him since you can walk. Yeah but he can replace you a lot faster and painlessly than you can replace him.

 

[ketostix]

One reason it gets to most people is simple, we are jealous. I'd love to have the balls to approach successfully a group of girls with a bunch of guys. Sure, I've done it, but with some and not too much success. Who wouldn't want to be able to pull girls away from a social group? that takes some skill. So what do people do when they see something they are jealous of? what everyone does, disdain. One of the laws of power from Robert Greene's book is to detest what you can not have. Its only natural. Why do you think everyone who talks about these "AMOG" with the douche bag as an adjective appearing in the same sentence.

I don't think this is it because we see guys hitting on other social circles' girls and we might even admire the confidence and skill. But when a guy comes up to a another guy paired of with his girl this is blantant disrespect and it's disrespectful on the girls part to play along with the other guy's advances. If I were to be jealous of anyone it would be the girl who has two guys now "fighting" over her.

Its not about women having power. Competition has nothing to do with it. I play sports to win, not to get girls. Of course women have a measure of power, but so do men. That has nothing to do with competition. Men will compete in any arena, not just over women. Women too compete against other women. We have all seen women try and out do other women and get the attention of a guy (they don't even want) just to out do them.

Well I still say the guy with two girls competing over him is the one in a postion of power. But that's just it how often is one girl really trying to actively win the guy let alone two girls or more trying? Not that often. With women there's almost always a dozen guys competing for her even if they're all in the background.

 

[STR8UP]

While agree with Str8up that guys have some power in walking away and acting disinterested, I think women have power.

We are talking about psychological power. it's all about "he who cares the least has the most power".

Women are like parasites in a way. That suckerfish isn't gonna stick with the sickly lemon shark when he knows he can get a better meal from the healthy great white. Women attach their value to the value of the men they are able to attract and subsequently manipulate. your job is to be the quality man they WANT to attract without being manipulated.

It's kind of like saying the only power your employer has is over you as a peon replacable employee is what you give him since you can walk. Yeah but he can replace you a lot faster and painlessly than you can replace him.

If you are truly a valuable employee you are NOT easily replaceable. Same with a woman. the more value you have in her eyes the less power she has over you.

 

[ketostix]

We are talking about psychological power. it's all about "he who cares the least has the most power".

Women are like parasites in a way. That suckerfish isn't gonna stick with the sickly lemon shark when he knows he can get a better meal from the healthy great white. Women attach their value to the value of the men they are able to attract and subsequently manipulate. your job is to be the quality man they WANT to attract without being manipulated.

Yeah I agree that women's power over a man is psychological in nature. If you don't allow them to affect you then they don't have much power over you, but it really sucks that they're so many men willing to be a sucker.

If you are truly a valuable employee you are NOT easily replaceable. Same with a woman. the more value you have in her eyes the less power she has over you.

I think what I was getting at is if you have a valuable postion with your employer, there's plenty of "qualified" competitors wanting it. Society puts women in the role of the employer. It definitely hinges on having value but at the same time all the other options available to women undermines your value. I quess my point is a man has to have value way beyond being an average man while an average woman has value just because she's a woman.

 

[window]

great post :yes:

 

[mtbbkr111]

Yeah I agree that women's power over a man is psychological in nature. If you don't allow them to affect you then they don't have much power over you, but it really sucks that they're so many men willing to be a sucker.

I also agree... As well, holding power over a woman takes energy. The longer you hold the power, the more you are able to control the tempo, but you also must realize that it will take more strength as time progresses. You then decide where to take the relationship

1) Continue having fun and seeing eachother. This takes strength, because most women after a bit will want a relationship, and will start to imply this through various tactics. If you maintian control through this, eventually she will get tired of being "just another girl", and either demand a relationship or move on.

2) Moving into the relationship. I think this involves a different sort of power. Here is where you keep the upper hand. But they will try to change you, and suggest things that you should to, etc..


Either way, once you relinquish power there is slight chance that you can gain it back. You will try and it will look like you are inconsistent. You must remain consistant, even if it means walking away and not looking back..

It all comes down to being a man, knowing what you want and walking away from what you don't want..

 

[STR8UP]

I think what I was getting at is if you have a valuable postion with your employer, there's plenty of "qualified" competitors wanting it. Society puts women in the role of the employer.

You take for granted that the employer is in the position of power.

I am an employer. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find decent, hard working, trustworthy people?

Trust me, in a free market economy the employee has as much (and sometimes more) power than the employer.

 

[Da Realist]

I have to agree you, STR8UP; they only get as much as you give them. Recently my lady decided she wanted to leave when we got into an argument. I unlocked my door and let her go mainly because I was tired of hearing her and figured whe was actually doing me a favor. So about 30 minutes later I found out she had called a couple times and decided to answer since I didn't want to get a bunch of messages I was going to have to delete later. She actually got mad because I didn't stop her from leaving. I basically told her that if she wanted to go it was up to her, but she couldn't blame me for not trying to work things out. She came back to try to work stuff out, but before we talked I let her know that the door was unlocked this time; of course this time she stayed and we got stuff settled. It just goes to show that when women find out something won't work because you refuse to give in, they can sit down and act rationally. So if I can add anything to this thread, it's that you have to let women know from the beginning that you like to have them around, but you're life won't end if they go.

 

[STR8UP]

It just goes to show that when women find out something won't work because you refuse to give in, they can sit down and act rationally. So if I can add anything to this thread, it's that you have to let women know from the beginning that you like to have them around, but you're life won't end if they go.

Exactly. Women EXPECT you to act a certain way (the way most men in their past have acted) and when you do the opposite of what she expects it throws her for a loop and she realizes that her little temper tantrum isn't going to gain her the upper hand. It's a power play which has NO power if you do not allow it any.

The bigger picture, as you alluded to, is that she realizes that you have no problem cutting her out of your life if she doesn't live up to your expectations.

 

[DonGorgon]

Lol... Women Only Have Power Cause There Arent Enough Of Them .. Simple... Killl Off 50% Of Teh Male Population Problem Solved...

 

[ketostix]

Lol... Women Only Have Power Cause There Arent Enough Of Them .. Simple... Killl Off 50% Of Teh Male Population Problem Solved...

This is my point in my analogy there's an oversupply of suitable workers (men) to suitable employers (women). If you had a job at GM say 20 years ago and you walked away from it, plenty of people would gladly take your place and you'd be hard press to finding a better job. Gm didn't need you.

Sure, you can diminish some of the power a woman has over you by not reacting to her, but you can't change the fact that only a rich celebrity male has the leverage of the typical female.