The one fact that you all fail to realize

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women are scared of men

believe it or not, theres is a good chunk of the time that you will be doing everything right, playing your game, being the playa that you are, and a woman will STILL not be receptive, even if she is attracted to you. Do you know why?

BECAUSE SHE FEARS YOU.

Society brought her up to be afraid of rapists, stalkers, men who sound too nice (she thinks you might murder her because you are a little TOO nice).

Women are total fools when it comes to this. Add to that that they are physically weak and defensless compared to men. In today's society, their gaurd is up to the fullest extent.

Whether it is cold approaching, internet approaching, club approaching, party approaching, you have to keep in mind THE most important part of your interaction with any woman/girl you meet:

MAKE HER NOT FEAR YOU

by that, it means make sure she feels safe around you,
make sure she thinks you are genuinly a great guy,
make sure she trusts you.

One CAN instill feelings like that inside a girl after talking to her for a few minutes only.

Here's how:

Ask her ALOT about her, and to everything she says, make a relation of your own to it, to make it seem like you have alot in common (you are a player, if you want to get with the girl, you will play the game, if you DON'T want to get with the girl, you will be honest and tell her that you two have nothing in common)
Make sure she knows SOME personal things about you (it will put her at ease that you are revealing things about yourself, in her mind it makes her feel like there is no chance you would stalk her or be ****ed up, because you gave out info about yourself)
....can't think of much else

it is much simpler than you all make it out to be!!!
 

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The Realest Thing said:
it is much simpler than you all make it out to be!!!
I agree. people think getting a girlfriend and keeping one is rocket science. if it was THAT complex how the hell did the human race survive so long!?
 

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Warboss Alex said:
I agree. people think getting a girlfriend and keeping one is rocket science. if it was THAT complex how the hell did the human race survive so long!?
Thousands and thousands of gallons of Jack Daniels.
 

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Thank you for this post. It has been a "problem" of mine that girls get nervous/intimidated around me, and it's really effected me. I learned a lot from your message, definitely put things in perspective.
 

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^ Maybe cause your nervous/intimidated around them? :eek: :D

Anyways... Agreed w. this post. But as KillaPete pointed out, women can smell the "staged" and this triggers the exact response that this post is trying to illuminate. It will spook a b!tch, if your coming at her fake.

So while establishing rapport, through building bridges of similarity is the most obvious thing. Make sure whatever bridges your connecting, are TRUE! Also, I like to disagree w. women, if I'm off w. them. It tells them, that I could give 2 sh!ts to kiss their ass, and that in itself attracts them. Also, it tells them where I'm at... and that makes them feel safe too. They know I'm being real w. them... and that of course builds trust. Not saying you should engage in Harvard Debating Conferences w. them... but a little stated difference of opinion is fine. Its all what you make of it. You can even turn that into fun fiesty goodness. Some kino, some c/f sh!t... and voila... you've created bridges of comfort and rapport in a not-so predictable (boring) fashion.

Peace'
 

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i am feared like colin farrell bro
 

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real spit

hey i think this post deserves more credit.. this is actually a very truthful statement how women fear men. And yes, it has to do with how men treat women.. if you think busting on them and making them feel insecure is the way to get women, then GOOD LUCK but, been there done that.

i'm not the most pimpin dude out there, but i have enough experience in making girls naturally feel attracted to me. i also have the skills to approach any girl that extremely appeals to me (only if it's in the extreme case)..call me an AMOG, all the dudes are cool with me and i'm naturally like that and girls actually like me for who i am. Thank God. ...but to tell you the truth i have had so much difficulty in getting the women to actually want to take it further with me than just a friendship thing. and i'm just a little bit enlightened to know that this is one of the better things i have learnt from all this so-called seduction theory. thanks and god bless ya bro.
 

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DarkLight said:
^ Maybe cause your nervous/intimidated around them? :eek: :D
Well, to be honest, when they get nervous it makes me nervous a little, so yes, that could be part of it. But one of my biggest obstacles overall has been getting women to be comfortable and to open up around me. Lately, especially, I haven't been as friendly/smiley as I used to be, and though the initial attraction is fine, creating a real SOCIAL connection has been tough. But I never really thought of the points that Realest brings up, so I think I will be more light/fun from now on to help put women at ease. I didn't think about it this way.
 

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Great post! I will take it a step further and say that if you can get a feel for what type of person she is and cater to those feelings you will be in there like swimwear. Demonstrating real interest in her life and feelings will help you build trust. Also, it's important to affirm and try and relate to her beliefs. In order to do this you need to work on shifting your perspective to see things as she sees them. This is something that has truely made a difference in my life as before I didn't realize the error of my ways and was only seeing what I wanted from people. By nature we are all self-centered, by shifting attention to others it instills a sense of importance and makes them feel valued as an individual. If you haven't read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" I highly suggest that everybody should pick it up for 5-10 bucks- it's an easy read. It's packed with wisdom that will absolutely help in your quests to become a better man. :up:
 
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Espi - the whole rollercoaster thing, u don't do that to strangers, you do that to a chick you already know.......if it is a random approach and she has no idea who you are, putting fear into her will scare her away. It's easy to push/pull, be funny/witty, and be sexual WITHOUT scaring her.
 
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NEVER WORRY ABOUT OFFENDING WOMEN

i agree Espi.

It's just some guys come off legitimate creepy when they are doing their "routines" on sosuave, and then they wonder why they can't get any #s from girls. the point is to be yourself, and to intergrate an exciting side to you whether it be natural push/pull, natural ****iness, natural sweetness, or better yet, ALL of those and then some.

Girls fear the creepy guy who is not acting like himself and seemingly has a hidden agenda.
 

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The Realest Thing said:
Girls fear the creepy guy who is not acting like himself and seemingly has a hidden agenda.
The necessary distinction between the 2 fears discussed. Well said.

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Well, to be honest, when they get nervous it makes me nervous a little, so yes, that could be part of it. But one of my biggest obstacles overall has been getting women to be comfortable and to open up around me. Lately, especially, I haven't been as friendly/smiley as I used to be, and though the initial attraction is fine, creating a real SOCIAL connection has been tough. But I never really thought of the points that Realest brings up, so I think I will be more light/fun from now on to help put women at ease. I didn't think about it this way.
Your missing "it." Let me explain, and this is to help. Its however you are feeling/relating that is causing their comfort or lack therof. You say its one of your "biggest obstacles to get them to be comftorable and open up around you" (paraphrased). This tells me your exact problem. Your not comftorable and find it hard opening up AROUND THEM. Wherever your at, they're gonna catch your vibe, and react proportionately. If your in a happy comftorable confident mood... do you really think they're gonna be uncomftorable, and not open up? On the whole... most women will reciprocally respond to your vibe. Why...!? Cause they're people too. So... create the shift in thinking, that you should be looking to put yourself at ease, not the women. When your at ease, they will be also.

Let me give you 2 quick examples to further drive this understanding home.
1. Some anxious guy, is trying to engage a woman, by making her feel comfortable.
2. Some relaxed guy, engages a woman through his own vibe of comfort.

Which do you think is going to make HER feel more comfortable?
Naturally the 2nd.
The cause creates the effect.

Peace'
 

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The Realest Thing said:
NEVER WORRY ABOUT OFFENDING WOMEN

i agree Espi.

It's just some guys come off legitimate creepy when they are doing their "routines" on sosuave, and then they wonder why they can't get any #s from girls...
This is so true. I remember when I first started I studied Ross Jefferies Speed Seduction routines since I already had a background in NLP. The very first time I used it on a date I creeped myself out. It didn't sound natural for my personality. I immediately dumped several weeks of memorized routines, went completely natural and never looked back. It feels so much better not having to worry about figuring out what line or routine to use next.
 

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Women can smell fakers.

THat's not always true. Intelligent sociopaths have the ability to pick up on what people want and give it to them, and once the prey has been lured in the sociopath will hurt them emotionally, physically, etc. And with women, they will believe what they want to believe. So a guy can be dangerous (not bad boy type but really dangerous) but if she has some preconceived image in her mind of what she thinks certain guys will be like (societal programming or imported social media) they'll still let the guy approach even when there are warnings all around her.

If you're dealing with someone of no class who doesn't have a mind of her own or easily influenced by preconceived notions then she'll be afraid no matter what. In that case that's her loss but your gain. Weak women breed insecurity and weakness only to reap what they sow.

If the woman is quality you can genuinely build rapport and trust with her. If you're for real it will come through. And she'll definitely appreciate you for it. :)
 
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wow jesus christ why was this guy not allowed to make more threads???

I stumbled upon this genius of a thread (along with the other one), but it looks like his stay here was a short one......why ban someone so full of knowledge that could help develop true don juans???
 
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Nooo for god sakes dont tell her anything personal. Best thing to do is to seem like a chill person. Just my opinion.

And black biatches dont fear niggas they got the goons to protect them lol.
 
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