The Old Question - Military Twist - She Has a BF

[eyedogg]

Wow - what a great and thread to read today! I

I am experiencing the same thing with RIGHT NOW. I met a girl (caucasian, if it matters) who is ex-army, met her at the gym, and she is 26yrs old. She is "in a relationship" her "boyfriend" was just deployed to Iraq for the next year. They have been dating for 4yrs.

He is divorced with two kids and he did not get "mark his property" before deployment (all qoutes are from her).

So we started hanging out over the past 2 weeks, and we went from just "dinner" last week, where we ended up talking/flirting/vibing each other for 5hrs total time (dinner was 1.5, the rest was in her car). Now, last night was another dinner and then to her place (she has a roommate that knows about her LTR BF), and her roomie goes to bed, we stay out on the couch and she asks for a "back rub" - SNAP...I mean talk about sexual vibing/touching, etc. She feel a sleep on the couch from my rub..and I slept next to her. Nothing happened and in the morning I left, said bye and hug (she held on).

NOW, her is the thing, I have been Neg hitting her, being sarcastic and un-impressed with all her "moves" (basically dodging her come on's). I am not sure what I want to do - I sense trouble (except as Karma puts it, the little man is not really speaking yet..and believe me I know when he does). I almost feel like, I am making up what I am sensing. Basically we met at the gym, which means she has a tight body, looks after her appearance, we have the same taste in food, music, family upbringing, etc.

So, now I am just thinking - I dont want to SEX a girl who is "in love with her best friend/boyfriend who is in Iraq' for the next year. It's cool hanging out with her and getting her to please me, cater to me, etc. I feel like I am basically practicing being a DJ with this girl, but I swear she is going to go for the KILL (get naked and jump my bones) soon!

Advice?

-eyedogg

 

[jophil28]

So, now I am just thinking - I dont want to SEX a girl who is "in love with her best friend/boyfriend who is in Iraq' for the next year.

Advice?

-eyedogg

You are kidding yourself- if you have no plan to sex her, then why are you hanging out with a woiman who is clearly getting ready to cheat on her B/f ?

Salute your flag, do your bit for your country and keep it zipped.
Carry on Pte.

 

[eyedogg]

Thanks Jophil!

Im going to let her know my boundries (dont mess with hooked up chix). And let her be.

Peace,
e.d.

 

[romangod]

You are kidding yourself- if you have no plan to sex her, then why are you hanging out with a woiman who is clearly getting ready to cheat on her B/f ?

Salute your flag, do your bit for your country and keep it zipped.
Carry on Pte.

Great advice. :trouble:

 

[joekerr31]

Thanks Jophil!

Im going to let her know my boundries (dont mess with hooked up chix). And let her be.

Peace,
e.d.

you already have let her know your boundaries. she knows you want her p*ssy.

she's a wh*re for messing around on her LTR who is risking his life. although it seems to be a totally common place thing for women back home to do.

i dont think ill ever understand how it is that women can do that. i mean, the guys over there getting shot at, killing other people, basically living in hell, and she's out courting fresh kawk.

utterly contemptable.

 

[eyedogg]

I agree joker!

It's been eating at me all night. I feel bad that I even posted this...because, I more then once i have felt like doing what Jakeprescott said which was to "bang the ..ish out her" then I realized its not something I should do..

Then I put myself in her BF's shoes and think...wow, what if I where him..that would suck..So, maybe she does think I want her puzzy, Ive never told her that, however some physical interaction may have her thinking that..to which Ive come up with this.

Basically, I dont mind putting her in the "friend zone" and checking in on her once in a while. If she attempts any physical stuff, I will tell her that I appreciate her friendship (she has been intruiging to socailize with over the hours we've spent - she is highly intelligent and peaks my couriousity), HOWEVER, I dont want to blur the line between friends and anything else.

I have displayed a lot of will power in holding off on telling her anything regarding being attracted to her, she is hot, etc. And think that has kept some power in my court.

If anything drastic happens, I will update.

 

[KontrollerX]

Watch the movie Jarhead and the scenes in particular where Jake's character has those awkward phone calls and letters from his girlfriend and gradually realizes she is cheating on him with the night manager at some motel who she initially claimed was "just a friend".

Then ask yourself how you'd feel if you were in that character's awful position.

So yeah my advice and opinion is to pass this one by as my opinion is DJ's are a higher quality man than to reward a scum woman like this and yes while the adage from the more morally bankrupt posters on this site goes "if you don't fvck her someone else will" may be true it doesn't make you or the world better for enabling this woman's disgusting behaviour.

So yes thats right someone else may indeed fvck her but you won't give her that honor if you are a good person since true DJ's have a higher standard than rewarding trash like this with their time and sexuality no matter how good she looks.

 

[eyedogg]

KontrollerX,

Thank you for the advice. Very appreciated. And yes, I have seen that movie and that part sucks.

I am disconnecting from this chick.

Peace,
eyedogg

 

[jophil28]

Watch the movie Jarhead and the scenes in particular where Jake's character has those awkward phone calls and letters from his girlfriend and gradually realizes she is cheating on him with the night manager at some motel who she initially claimed was "just a friend".

Then ask yourself how you'd feel if you were in that character's awful position.

So yeah my advice and opinion is to pass this one by as my opinion is DJ's are a higher quality man than to reward a scum woman like this and yes while the adage from the more morally bankrupt posters on this site goes "if you don't fvck her someone else will" may be true it doesn't make you or the world better for enabling this woman's disgusting behaviour.

So yes thats right someone else may indeed fvck her but you won't give her that honor if you are a good person since true DJ's have a higher standard than rewarding trash like this with their time and sexuality no matter how good she looks.

Sane people do not EVER get in triangles.
The Reasons-

The woman is involved with another guy who is not even around to be a "rival" and play the game. Is that a fair contest ?

The guy is on a tour of duty - he is not down at the shore with his buds drinking and fishing for a weekend..

Two men competing for one woman's vagina automatically places the woman up there as "the Prize" . This is contrary to our philosophy . Women compete for US not the other way around.

By hanging out with her, and especially if you fukk her, you are validating some other guy's woman - not your job.. You are being used as a substitute - an orbiter. If he was around you would not be.

Finally, how would you like some other guy to be doing this to your G/f in the same circumstances.

Ya get it ?

 

[eyedogg]

Jophil,

I do get it brother! And I appreciate your break down. I wasnt feeling the substitute piece (the other stuff became appearant after the 2nd dinner, the stuff regarding..wow, this chicks dude is not even close, and now I placating this biatch)..but after the back rub thing...THEN it all came to light and I felt compelled to post.

At times I do NOT feel SANE - and thus, my booster shot trip back in to this awesome site!

Regards,
eyedogg

 

[Mr. Me]

her "boyfriend" was just deployed to Iraq for the next year. They have been dating for 4yrs... in love with her best friend/boyfriend who is in Iraq

So we started hanging out... she asks for a "back rub"

Some women can't take being alone. Some don't have integrity. Like this gal.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Pretend he's not in the military. Forget about what he's doing. FORGET ABOUT HIM AND HIS INTEREST. What would you really do?

Is it guilt for the other man because he's in a war? Or do you truly not want to get involved in drama?

 

[eyedogg]

Pretend he's not in the military. Forget about what he's doing. FORGET ABOUT HIM AND HIS INTEREST. What would you really do?

Ok, not in the military, OK, and OK. What I really do: I would SEX this girl, however, not to quickly, the engagement and interaction is building up, so I would let it continue until it escalated to the point of a hot sweaty sex session. Boom thats it.

This is truly a great question. Although some here may not agree. I appreciate where this may be coming from. So here is my answer: YES. And there is some sort of small guilt there for this guy, as she fits the "dependent/submissive" role very well.

She just wants to please and serve a MAN who displays a "Leader" type qualities. So, I now realize I am replacing him in this role. I do feel some guilt. And as far as drama goes. I try to avoid drama, and I am not always that good at it (obviously). Although, I am now getting better at seeing it when its in front of me (versus, where I want to be, which is sensing it a mile away and not when its in my face).

There you go Thunder



Thunder - I am going to answer your questions in hope that you are going to provide some further insight to what my honest answers will be, so thanks in advance for your time.

 

[Latinoman]

Wow - what a great and thread to read today! I

I am experiencing the same thing with RIGHT NOW. I met a girl (caucasian, if it matters) who is ex-army, met her at the gym, and she is 26yrs old. She is "in a relationship" her "boyfriend" was just deployed to Iraq for the next year. They have been dating for 4yrs.

He is divorced with two kids and he did not get "mark his property" before deployment (all qoutes are from her).

So we started hanging out over the past 2 weeks, and we went from just "dinner" last week, where we ended up talking/flirting/vibing each other for 5hrs total time (dinner was 1.5, the rest was in her car). Now, last night was another dinner and then to her place (she has a roommate that knows about her LTR BF), and her roomie goes to bed, we stay out on the couch and she asks for a "back rub" - SNAP...I mean talk about sexual vibing/touching, etc. She feel a sleep on the couch from my rub..and I slept next to her. Nothing happened and in the morning I left, said bye and hug (she held on).

NOW, her is the thing, I have been Neg hitting her, being sarcastic and un-impressed with all her "moves" (basically dodging her come on's). I am not sure what I want to do - I sense trouble (except as Karma puts it, the little man is not really speaking yet..and believe me I know when he does). I almost feel like, I am making up what I am sensing. Basically we met at the gym, which means she has a tight body, looks after her appearance, we have the same taste in food, music, family upbringing, etc.

So, now I am just thinking - I dont want to SEX a girl who is "in love with her best friend/boyfriend who is in Iraq' for the next year. It's cool hanging out with her and getting her to please me, cater to me, etc. I feel like I am basically practicing being a DJ with this girl, but I swear she is going to go for the KILL (get naked and jump my bones) soon!

Advice?

-eyedogg

This is one of the reasons I sometimes believe we should FORCE everyone to serve in the military for at least 3 years.

I don't fool around with ANY woman that has a husband or "boyfriend" serving in Iraq or Afghanistan. I personally find it disgraceful.

 

[eyedogg]

Latino man,

I was compelled to post because of the internal feelings of maintaining HIGH CHARACTER.

I do NOT believe I crossed the line with this girl and I am happy about my realization.

e.d.

 

[Latinoman]

Watch the movie Jarhead and the scenes in particular where Jake's character has those awkward phone calls and letters from his girlfriend and gradually realizes she is cheating on him with the night manager at some motel who she initially claimed was "just a friend".

Then ask yourself how you'd feel if you were in that character's awful position.

So yeah my advice and opinion is to pass this one by as my opinion is DJ's are a higher quality man than to reward a scum woman like this and yes while the adage from the more morally bankrupt posters on this site goes "if you don't fvck her someone else will" may be true it doesn't make you or the world better for enabling this woman's disgusting behaviour.

So yes thats right someone else may indeed fvck her but you won't give her that honor if you are a good person since true DJ's have a higher standard than rewarding trash like this with their time and sexuality no matter how good she looks.

I totally agree.

We should be thankful to those ALREADY serving. Because if they were not serving...then we would have a draft. Their service is keeping the rest of us FROM serving.

I have slept with married women and women with boyfriends. But I have some rules... 1) NEVER with a woman which man I considered a friend or a man that I worked with or a man that was my family member. 2) NEVER with a woman which man was serving overseas in the Military (War or no war).

That define my values and integrity as a man. And that goes above women and puzzy.

 

[eyedogg]

I agree with the comment on draft prevention by them being there.

I like those rules and look forward to applying them in my life.

e.d.

 

[Latinoman]

Latino man,

I was compelled to post because of the internal feelings of this being an disgraceful thing to participate in. Trying to maintain HIGH CHARACTER when a hot broad is literally "throwing" the puzzy at you is challenging!

I do NOT believe I crossed the line with this girl and I am happy about my realization.

e.d.

I know. I was not referring to you in general. But to the situation and how some people would react.

I have my own morals, etc. But there some things that I don't cross. And that is one of those things.

I applaud you for exercising self control. Now...if they broke up or if they were not together...that's different.

 

[drmeathead]

flip the switch for a second...if this was the OPs gf and she was out and looking good and ran into the army guy on a weekend pass and he thought she was hot .would he go "oh your bf isnt out tonight because he is on a business trip lets not ****?" you dont become the shinning marine on the t commerical just by sigining up...the military is full of the same morally bankrupt *******s that fill this society. lets not think that this guy wouldnt do the same.

i really dont see how he is owed anything by serving the country. other people in other professions serve the country too and alot of you guys on here have no problem ****ing their gfs. sure serving the country in the millitary is a noble profession and we owe them our gratitude in general.

in this specific instance it sucks for this guy sure. it really does. i feel bad fro him but when relationships go they go. does it matter if he is in iraq or the living room? no it doesnt. she lost interest in this guy long before the OP stepped into the picture. idk maybe my morals are shot and i have rotted from the inner cynicism...whatever just my thoguhts

 

[KontrollerX]

You bring up some damn powerful points drmeathead.

I go one step further than Latinoman in that I will not reward a cheater no matter what the scenario be her boyfriend serving in the military or just a regular joe schmo off the street working at a regular job.

Its just one of the things I disagree with this site's teachings on due to my own internal moral compass letting me know that I would not be proud of myself to engage in that.

Pook had a similar thought as he once posted he would not do this either as he viewed it as "turning brother against brother".

My idea of DJ is that once we learn and apply the knowledge properly enough we gradually build what are known as options so why would a man thats become a DJ with tons of fresh young single options fish in a tainted rotten well by knocking it out with a cheater when he has tons of other equally hot options to choose from that are not morally bankrupt?

The answer is either the man was never a DJ at all, morally bankrupt himself so he just doesn't give a sh!t who he knocks it out with or views engaging in this as some misguided method of payback against a world that has harmed him.

The last one is so very misguided because you don't get back at the world by becoming corrupt yourself but remaining true to yourself inspite of the world's corruption.