The Nice Guy

[SDBmania]

After reading several topics over time here, I seem to get the general impression that the Nice Guys is frowned upon here. Like it's some kind of disease that needs to be healed. I find this to be false, I think you can be a nice guy and a DJ as well. I'm a nice guy, but I am not push over. I use alot of C&F and am way confident. I tease, but do not insult, nor do I act like a "jerk." I am by no means a mean guy. Being a comedian myself, I know how far I can go with my humor. Sometimes I will make fun, but it is clear it's ment as a joke.

I support those and encourage those who choose to be the nice guy. However, that does not mean that you then must become a wuss. You still must be confident and stand your ground. The old adage: "Nice guys finish last." Is only true because nice guys often don't try. So, I say to thee, I am NOT the wuss type of nice guy, I am the strong type.

I would like to hear what you all have to say about this and the poll is to get a general consensus of what you believe.

 

[Slashco]

"Nice Guy" is most often used in a derogatory way to mean those spineless, manipulative guys who don't stand up for themselves, can't get women, and blame everyone else for it. There is nothing wrong with being a genuinely nice person, as long as you don't let people walk all over you (and then b!tch about it)

 

[AFK Protector]

yay the nice guys are winning. w00t. go us. Yea, I'm generally nice to everyone unless they try to piss on me. Then I rip off their nubs and balls while shoving a snake up their ass.

 

[SDBmania]

YES!

This is good. I think that the term "Nice Guy" needs to be changed. I am with both of you. I have known and still know nice guys who don't act. I think the key is that you can still be nice, but just don't be weak. We need to show the world our strength and that just because we can get along with most if not everyone, doesn't mean we don't have a backbone. Thanks for your opinions.

 

[Porky]

I'm a nice guy. I get play and have more than a few women chasing me. I'm nice in that I respect everybody, but I don't supplicate to anybody.

 

[MetalFortress]

Big diff between nice guy and a nice man/guy who is nice. "Nice guys" are nice to the point that they get stomped on, and it is usually for ulterior motives, whereas a nice man/guy who is nice is nice just for the sake of being nice. "Nice guy" is the biggest misnomer ever.

 

[slipstreamer83]

Well, I am starting to think that "nice guy" is not that bad if you have confidence and backbone and you are cool to be around with. I have used some C&F with girls I liked, I used it with humour, but the thing did not work.

However, if I just tried to be a great person to talk with, I feel more comfortable and I also feel that it´s better for them, too!!! I think that techniques like C&F should be saved for very few occasions that come naturally.

I´d like to read more comments on this, this topic is tops!!!

 

[Skel]

You need to understand being nice isnt bad.
Being submissive and a floor mat is.

It is good to be nice. You can be nice, ****y, funny and a man all at the same time. Its when you start being NICE NICE like here I bought you something because im nice. NO, basically its I bought you this so you would like me.

 

[SDBmania]

Originally posted by slipstreamer83

I´d like to read more comments on this, this topic is tops!!!

Thanks!

I tend to agree. I think that it's important for me to reiterate that I do NOT allow myself to be a push over. I think something that guys forget is that being nice is good, just don't let yourself become weak or too nice.

 

[WestCoaster]

Only a U.S. woman could find "nice guy"

... as a deragatory term. Amazing. Use wimps or something else.

But there's something to be said about nice people in this world: There's not enough of them. Think of your kindly grandfather (well, if he was kind) or your favorite old teacher. They were wise, nice men. Usually married to nice, wise women.

There are so many mean people around that niceness is a rarity and now it's been dubbed bad by stupid, twisted, sick, culture-corrupted American women. Let's face it, NONE of you are going to be "players" when you're 50 and if you are, you're kind of pathetic.

But being nice and kind to humanity might be a good way to go. That lasts forever. Personally I'd rather have my legacy as being nice than being mean.

The only reason U.S. women can't use another word like "pushover" or "wimp" is that they're too stupid, so they use the term "nice guy."

And when they're working on their third divorce for marrying a "bad boy" I won't have any sympathy.

My dad is "nice guy" with lots of friends and is greatly respected in his community.

I'm proud of that and hopefully I can be as nice as him some day.

 

[Devestator]

I know more DJs who are nice than jerks. All the jerk DJs I know just happen to be good looking or rich.

We got it in our mind that nice is bad. I am glad to be reminded that of all the things I have to learn and practice, ignoring my conscience isn't one of them.

It applies to alpha males too. If you want to be an effective social leader, you have to care about those following you, and look out for them. You can't just get off on your power and smirk about how "alpha" you are or no one will be loyal.

 

[ScrewIt]

the "nice guys" we refer here are the ones who are

Overzealously NICE. they just let everyone step on them.
they would rather do something in favor of someone else than their own needs. they put that other persons needs priorities over theirs, because they want everyone to like them.

this is the "nice guy" we refer to.

you dont necessarily have to become a jerk to win women over.

IMHO, you should find a balance between "nice guy" and "jerk"

which is the Good Guy

 

[SDBmania]

This is good to hear

So, basically, I should call my self a good guy versus the nice guy. That makes sence to me. I used to be the pushover, but now I can stand my ground.

 

[Juan_Man]

I disagree with a lot of people here. I agree that there is such a thing as a spinless nice guy, who lets people walk all over him (I used to be that guy) and no one should ever be like that. However, I think that being a genuine nice guy can hurt your game too. Women like drama and sometimes you have to throw in a little rudeness to keep things interesting. It doesn't matter what your motives are. If you're nice, you eventually get boring, and you get dumped. Case closed.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

I used to know a really nice guy. He was extrordinary polite and calm to everyone, smiled all the time, offered me hot tea and scones at his apartment.

He would help old ladies across the road and push their carts for 4 blocks.

He was charming to women, never insulted them, good with compliments, and got laid.

Then he got put on trial for 12 counts of murder, 4 counts of money laundering, 2 counts of fraud, 1 count of manslaughter, and 20 counts of assault.

 

[Mr.Hash wid da Stash]

used to know a really nice guy. He was extrordinary polite and calm to everyone, smiled all the time, offered me hot tea and scones at his apartment.He would help old ladies across the road and push their carts for 4 blocks.

He was charming to women, never insulted them, good with compliments, and got laid.

Then he got put on trial for 12 counts of murder, 4 counts of money laundering, 2 counts of fraud, 1 count of manslaughter, and 20 counts of assault.

Haha yeah. Alot of nice guys aren't "really" nice. Just poseurs..

 

[Champ1]

My motto throughout my life...

My motto that I've always lived by my whole life, which sorta has rhythm to it is and always has been since I was a teenager, "you can't be too nice, you can't be too mean, you have to be somewhere in between!" I've always said this even long before I knew about these DJ websites. It's served me well and I'm glad that it is true after reading all this stuff here.

I believe that you can be 'nice', you just can't be a wuss around women. It's a total turnoff for them. You have to mix up some niceness with some bad behavior every once in a while and give women a little drama. That's all they want once in a while to stay happy with you. I don't know how the word 'nice guy' became such a negative thing. I've known somen really cool men who were genuinly nice, yet had all the confidence in the world and demanded respect from everyone around them. Women have just ruined that saying 'nice guy'.
Champ

 

[slipstreamer83]

Originally posted by Juan_Man
I disagree with a lot of people here. I agree that there is such a thing as a spinless nice guy, who lets people walk all over him (I used to be that guy) and no one should ever be like that. However, I think that being a genuine nice guy can hurt your game too. Women like drama and sometimes you have to throw in a little rudeness to keep things interesting. It doesn't matter what your motives are. If you're nice, you eventually get boring, and you get dumped. Case closed.

Good point there. I think that you can solve this problem through experience. If 3 or 4 women that you have been with use drama, then I think you will learn what to do. Experience with all the info available at this site is all you need to solve the drama problem, IMHO.