The Master Key to Success with Women

[oOh Nasty]

Judge them, and let them know they're being judged.

For anyone unfamiliar with the TV series "Mad Men," I'd say the main character Don Draper exhibits this mentality perfectly with the perfect amount of coolness and respect for the subject. I know it's fiction, but worth checking out anyways.

What you need are balls and an all-in IDGAF attitude.

This plus the above are useful not only for women but also for life in general.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Results, my man. You can’t argue with results. I would venture to guess that you’re imagining an extreme form of what I’m describing.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Atom I disagree with this one. If you want hot kinky sex with women to let go you cant judge most of them. They clam the fck up.

I'm wondering if depending on what role one is seeking, Provider or Lover. The demeanor needed changes. If a female is looking for a provider, than the judgemental attitude might be the better course. If a female is looking for non commited, hot sex, then the judgement free vibe is the way to exhibit being the lover.

 

[Glassguy]

(1) Be the best version of yourself possible.
(2) Try to make dates.
(3) Screen out women that don't really want you.

The biggest problem I see with some men here is that they are not willing to put effort on themselves and spend to much time chasing after chicks that are not really interested in them.

Agree. I will add to not waste ANY time with women who have low interest. Just walk away, ghost, whatever. You don't owe them anything. If they come back chasing, fine. But spend your time wisely.

 

[derby1]

all this macho man stuff only works if you have a 100k income and 2 desirable cars on the drive, she will put up with it then.

you earn 40k in your 2 bed apartment , she will just bail. and go with the beta who is tolerable of her terms & conditions.

 

[BadBoy89]

The most success I’ve ever had with women is just listening.

”Uh-uh. yep, you are right, true, that‘s brutal. yep, you’re right, ok, yep, that’s rough, yep.”

How can a woman get angry when a man just listens? She is going to go to her roommate and say “I had a terrible date, all he did was listen to me the whole time!”

Just my experience.

 

[BeExcellent]

Uncle Atom is a wise soul. IDGAF and Amused Mastery is how it’s done. My BF, although he has his insecurities and tends to mate guard, handles his business in this way. Sometimes I’ll chide him with “You’re such an ass hole” but in fact he is a lovable ass hole and it puts a big grin on his face at the same time.

He can handle me in spite of his own vulnerabilities (which I appreciate, guard, and find charming).

I do think that in the bedroom judgement should not enter. Because on the heels of judgement in that sense comes shame. And shame (puritanical society and mores being what they are) results in the shutdown of sexuality and by extension deep intimacy.

But a woman needs to appreciate and look up to her man; needs to admire him for some reason…and she needs to FEEL his leadership, masculinity and that he ‘gets’ women.

Cheers Atom. Time to go spoil the man

 

[Atom Smasher]

I got plenty of experience. 32 years worth and marriage. It may work for you but longterm it will be hated.
"Judge not and you shall not be judged" is far more reaching then what people think.

IMO opinion judging women is a reflex mechanism for mans fear of cheating. Fear is bad

Stringpuller, you’re reading WAY more into this than there actually is, yet at the same time over-simplifying it. This is a short-term strategy, a nuanced way to attract and garner interest and respect from a woman. It’s nothing more than laying the groundwork and establishing dominance and respect. What kind of dominance? Leadership which the woman knows she will be able to trust and feel safe within.
I see that the subtleties and nuance that I’m advocating just aren’t connecting with you. I know you’re one of those guys who is just going to imagine himself being nasty and mean if using this technique. Women love me because I’m funny, friendly and approachable. But they also thrill to the fact that I demand good behavior from them. This technique isn’t for you because it doesn’t fit you. That’s fine. It works for most men who stumble upon it, that’s for sure. What you’re not seeing is that done right, women absolutely love this attitude, and are attracted to it like moths to a flame.
I used to be a non-entity to women, or even despised and looked down upon. I credit this technique with turning all that around.

 

[metalwater]

judge vs greed.

Is judging putting self first the same as greed? Called out in social and religious conditioning as BAD. They both are attractive to women.

Can you detail the difference in mindset between the dark triad and amused triad(this one is your teaching)... I have seen dark get results. Will this get better results or just be different? If dark is working, is any value in switching to amused? Or is it all the same stuff with different names?

is this the same thing about getting her to qualify herself to you?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

This seems like good advice, like something you can "just do."

But it's extremely difficult to genuinely judge a woman from a standpoint of male power if you have little experience and not much to offer.

Guys that do this do this naturally BECAUSE of their confidence, experience, and genuine self valuation.

You can't fake any of that stuff.

So, in my contrarian opinion, calling this a "Master Key" would be like telling people who've struggled with weight loss their whole lives that the "Master Key" to weight loss is to simply eat less and exercise more.

 

[Atom Smasher]

My formula is as follows: You DGAF but you also do GAF.

She is not important to you because she has done nothing yet to earn a place in your life. She is there for fun and amusement. She’s being given a chance.

On the other hand, you GAF about respect. If she is disrespectful, she pays the price (rejection). She failed. You don’t get angry. You simply execute a dispassionate, detached rejection.

If most men did this, we wouldn’t be in the predicament we find ourselves in these days. Women absolutely run roughshod over men these days as a matter of course, and they do it precisely because men are too timid to offend and can’t even imagine holding women accountable. Each man should examine himself to see how much of this timidity (aka social pressure) resides within.

 

[Atom Smasher]

This seems like good advice, like something you can "just do."

But it's extremely difficult to genuinely judge a woman from a standpoint of male power if you have little experience and not much to offer.

Guys that do this do this naturally BECAUSE of their confidence, experience, and genuine self valuation.

You can't fake any of that stuff.

So, in my contrarian opinion, calling this a "Master Key" would be like telling people who've struggled with weight loss their whole lives that the "Master Key" to weight loss is to simply eat less and exercise more.

Trust me, my brother, you can fake it. That’s exactly what I did. I was a total loser with women. I was convinced there was literally a “cosmic law” at work where most women could never be attracted to me.

I decided to create a new inner reality by redefining myself as a man who would hold ALL women accountable. That included family. I had absolutely nothing to lose, because in my mind it was impossible to attract women anyway.

Almost overnight my life changed. Women have a certain inner radar that we men can’t imagine exists, which allows them to detect a man who will stand up to them and require things of them. Once I switched over to “judge” mode, my entire demeanor changed and what I projected outward changed.

My voice changed. My body language changed. There was no effort or gimmick to this. All this changed naturally on its own simply because I had made an inner paradigm shift. I didn’t care one iota about rejection anymore. Much to my surprise, I found women being attracted like moths to a flame. I didn’t expect it, but I’m not complaining.
Interestingly, I found that I enjoyed far more respect from men, too.
You guys need to understand that I’m using the word “judging” as a shorthand for the more complex and nuanced concepts I already described. Don’t get hung up on the harshness of the word. If you guys would only start to consider yourselves the King of your kingdom instead of just another cog in the machine, your lives would transform across the board. Willie Shakespeare’s phrase, “Assume a virtue if you have it not” is powerful snd practical. It changes you from within which changes what you project. Too simple? All great, practical ideas are simple and unencumbered by complications and “what ifs” and “yeah, buts”.

 

[metalwater]

IMO game is game. Women have little concept with honor when the honor is questioned in them.
A religious woman has the same biology as a secular girl. And both can decide to do a 180 in any situation at anytime.
The so called amused part is the guys life. You live and move on and laugh and do what your doing.
From sex to career if she does a 180 and does not follow.
It is bye bye time. The holy grail this thread is referring too is IDGAF. Move on and enjoy life. This place is transitory for all.
Guys invest way too much into women. To much emotion

I got that part. seems like OP is trying to present an option other than woman are unable to control themself and, therefore, can not be trusted.

What I think is that they are not bad, only lack the ability. This OP seems to in this post and other posts tell that he thinks women are ok and can be more. That is counter to what I have seen and experienced but would love to learn how it can be true.

Men rule the world and almost everything that occurs is because a man wished it. Including women that cheat.

Women are inferior in a few ways but not all ways. In the ways that they are inferior in men can and do abuse them; Fact, not truth.

I see firsthand how the dark thingy works. and it does work. If there is another way I love to learn it.

I compare pan, good stuff, adamsmash, and a few others such as string, finallline, epicdays, pook, and others...

When I spin it all out, its clear that women are a different species. What we want and need from them does not align with what they want and need. I am sure I can get what I want by following the pan advice. Already proved it, women approach me now and that is really funny based on who I was. I so like the goodstuff view, it sings... adam is from a place in disney, if disney was true I would not be here. But mabye so I ask again... disney is so wonderfull, can it be... final, epic, and pook all tell no and what they do tell is exactly what I have observed.

 

[Robert28]

The most success I’ve ever had with women is just listening.

”Uh-uh. yep, you are right, true, that‘s brutal. yep, you’re right, ok, yep, that’s rough, yep.”

How can a woman get angry when a man just listens? She is going to go to her roommate and say “I had a terrible date, all he did was listen to me the whole time!”

Just my experience.

But I thought we weren’t supposed to agree with everything they say?