The Male Friend Dynamic

MR_PERFECT

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I've read on here how a lot of guys think it's no big deal for their girlfriend to have male friends. I'm wondering if it's truely possible for a man described as attractive to be friends with a woman described as attractive? If the "friends" go out drinking, drink at his place, go out to dinner, go out with mutual friends, etc... how is it possible that the sexual dynamic never comes into play? And no matter how much of an AFC the guy is, his intensions would have to be known sooner or later, right?
 

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Its pretty much not possible unless that guy "friend" already has his own girlfriend or wife that he deeply deeply loves or she and this guy tried to be in a relationship a long time ago and it just did not work out due to massive incompatibility in that area.

Much of the time male friends will not be anything to worry about but if thats all your girl has for friends or she has more male friends than girls as friends then you should look to finding a new girlfriend as those types are almost always cheating scum and those males are not hanging around for "friendship".
 

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you know, ive been thinking about this topic. its constantly argued her and i've yet to come across an explanation that sat really well with me.

here is my newfound view. im a big fan of what i call the 10-80-10 rule. which basically means that:

10% of the people in this world are rotten to the core - utter narcissists.

80% are circumstance based. which means you can trust them provided they aren't tempted by forces that overwhelm their ability to reason or act morally. of this 80% there is a spectrum, some are easily susceptible to circumstance, and others it takes a hell of a lot (ie. one chic might cheat becuase she had an argument with you, while another might only cheat if the husband she thought had been killed in iraq suddenly is actually alive, but only has 1 hour to live nad his last wish to bang her).

10% of the people in this world are pure gold. their word is there bond. they wear their principles on their sleeves, they are honest, they would die for their family and when they tell you something or make a promise they would go through hell to keep it. these kinds of people won't cheat even if they are cheated on, they simply walk away - they see it as you broke hte contract, so its over. they take the high road.

so can women and men be friends? well the top 10% i believe can. no matter how strong the attraction, i believe they can be platonic friends and remain loyal to their spouses.

the other 90%, its playing with fire.

so as a general rule, two friends of opposite gender who are attracted to each other are likely to cross the line at some point. BUT there are exceptions to the rule and there are people who do not cross the line.

the only reason this scenario is rare is that its rare that a man in the top 10% settles down with a woman in the top 10%. so usually one of the partners is part of that other 90% and like they say, it only takes one.

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There are three different types of male/female relationships.

1) The sexual type. Having sex or sexual history.

2) The sexual tension type. This is where both parties have at least a passing sexual interest in the other person. Sex may or may not happen at some point in the future.

3) The platonic type. This is where sex is pretty much out of the question, due to one or both parties lacking sexual interest in the other, most often it is only ONE who lacks sexual interest, often times it is the woman.

Most of the male/female relationships you see are unfortunately type #3, and most of the time it's the guy who wants the girl.

If it's this type you probably have little to worry about. If it's type #2, better keep your eyes open. If it's type #1, run the other way.

You can usually tell which category the relationship falls into by observing interaction between the two. Never judge until you meet the guy....most of the time he's a harmless AFC.
 

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MR_PERFECT said:
I've read on here how a lot of guys think it's no big deal for their girlfriend to have male friends.
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Are you sure that the consensus on this forum was that it was fine for a guy's G/friend to have a male "friend"?
I read it the other way.

Bottom line- how many MEN form and maintain a close relationship with an attractive woman purely for "friendship" ?

Axiomatic ?
 

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I got a female friend, I'm friends with her because of her mirror-like personality and definitely not for her looks. In no ways would I ever want to sleep with her or imagine a relationship with her *shudder*, she's awesome but she's like a buddy.
 

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jophil28 said:
Are you sure that the consensus on this forum was that it was fine for a guy's G/friend to have a male "friend"?
I read it the other way.

Bottom line- how many MEN form and maintain a close relationship with an attractive woman purely for "friendship" ?

Axiomatic ?
The consensus on the board is that a confident man wouldn't care about his girlfriend getting together with male friends. I was always surprised by this because I've repeatedly seen the male friend either want more or get more. I knew a woman that would tell her boyfriend of 10 years about her gay friend Mr_Perfect... the gay friend that she was doing on the regular bases. She eventually married the guy. I had another friend that I slept with, then she got a boyfriend and disappeared for a few months. When I was contacted again, I found out she had a boyfriend that was jealous because she and I were good friends and she missed me. What she didn't tell him was that we slept together off and on the entire length of the friendship - slipped her mind, I guess.

The best is the guy and girl at work that spend a lot of time together outside of work. I've seen this in work related situations more than once, and the only rule is that the guy is always interested and the guy always tries. Unless they're actually dating, the man and woman in the work situation will always deny anything happened, but the guy always admits he tried.

Now I know guys on here will do all this talking about AFCs, but it would take an AFC of epic proportions to not get somewhere with a female friend. There are 2 kinds of female friends: the user, whether it's for attention, money, free things, emotional tampon, etc..., and the female friend that likes you but for whatever reason nothing has happened, yet. The first type will spend time with you but not much and they always have to be getting something out of it. The second type of female friend won’t spend a lot of time with guys they aren't attracted to. I know guys will say the AFC couldn't get their girl, but all it takes is a big enough fight with you, or she goes out with the friend to show independence, or you make the mistake of being just a little to unavailable. Unlike a Don Juan, it would take an AFC a while to get the girl and extremely unlikely he’ll keep her, but he will get her sooner or later, unless she's the "user."
 

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I go out with my best (girl) friend all the time, it's not a big deal. We've been friends for about 12 years; she's like a sister to me. We went to grade school together, were friends in high school, and became much better friends in college--I even lived with her for a year when her other roommate bailed. When we go to the bar, we help each other pick up guys/girls.

I've never made a move nor do I plan to, like I said she's like my sister. If she tried to come on to me for real, I'd probably think it a joke and we'd go on like before.

She is now engaged to one one of my good friends from college, that's going to be an awesome wedding.
 

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MR_PERFECT said:
I've read on here how a lot of guys think it's no big deal for their girlfriend to have male friends. I'm wondering if it's truely possible for a man described as attractive to be friends with a woman described as attractive? If the "friends" go out drinking, drink at his place, go out to dinner, go out with mutual friends, etc... how is it possible that the sexual dynamic never comes into play? And no matter how much of an AFC the guy is, his intensions would have to be known sooner or later, right?
I see what your trying to say because many dudes just want to fuk a girl that they can't even have "Girl" friends. But only you can decide if you want female friends or not. It seriously isn't that hard because you know you have many options so its no need for you to even try to escalate with the chick.

All my female friends know there is a limit. The limit is her siting on my lap or slapping each others ass in a playful way. My female friends pinch my nipples or rub my stomach, but I consider it friendly touching. Most of these chicks I've known for almost 6-8 months now. Yes they might want to fuk me but I wouldn't do it because I just want to keep them as friends because it helps for social proof.

Many guys are friends with chicks in hopes of fuking them but they end up just being a orbiter.

I seriously think its fuked up for someone to become friends with a girl and then suddenly try to jump out the closest waving there dik trying to fuk. To me it's like all the hanging out and interactions with your so called friend was just you trying to get closer and closer to fuk her. Lame.
 

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Snow Plowman said:
I seriously think its fuked up for someone to become friends with a girl and then suddenly try to jump out the closest waving there dik trying to fuk. To me it's like all the hanging out and interactions with your so called friend was just you trying to get closer and closer to fuk her. Lame.
Hey, hey, hey, was that directed at me? Any woman I've met that I wanted to sleep with, I put it out there right away. I've even told women I knew that we weren't friends because I would try to sleep with them sooner or later.
 

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