"The Ladder Theory"

RKTek

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Apologies if this was previously posted. If you haven't yet seen this it is a great site

Note: I put an asterisk (*) where an o would normally go, so that the address would post. You'll have to replace the asterisk with an o to visit this site:


http://www.intellectualwh*res.com/masterladder.html


Oops, I did a search and see it has been posted before. Still good stuff for anyone who hasn't seen it.
 

PRMoon

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Big fan

I'm a HUGE fan of the Ladder Theory, because it really does a good job explaining things. I've read it through several times and understand its principles well.
It's a good tool to help you figure out exactly where you stand with a girl.
 

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i didn't get a chance to read it yet, but is this saying that if a girl has nothing but guy friends, they're either short term or they're bangin? If so, I just met this girl who doesn't dig hanging with girls- and I'm not about to be a friend, so is it worth the effort to pull her away from the other competitors?
 

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I laughed a lot reading about the Ladder Theory. It's obvious he appears to be quite bitter and has no idea what makes a guy a chick magnet -- you know, he's one of those Nice Guys who grumble about girls liking and falling for Jerks.

I do think his Ladder Theory seems accurate AT FIRST in the sense of women having a "Real" Ladder and a "Friends" Ladder that a guy may end up on. Basically, they may be explained as the "he turns me on and I'd have sex with him" and the "he doesn't turn me on and I'd never have sex with him" ladders. But of course these labels are a little too long for most purposes. :D

Anyway, I have a slightly different theory. I'm still trying to work out whether the "Friends" Ladder is actually the bottom of the "Real" Ladder, and that women have one ladder, like men do.

First of all, I'll look at the male ladder, and as I'm a man, I'll examine myself for a little bit. I think my own ladder may be best explained as having different sections. At the top (8+) are girls that are hot enough that they could be my girlfriend. Next down (6 to 8) are those who turn me on, and who I'd like to have sex with but whom I wouldn't want as a long-term girlfriend. Below those are the plain Janes to the warpigs, the unfortunates who don't turn me on. I suppose that I could do like the Ladder Theory guy does, and subdivide them into those I'd bang drunk and admit it, those I'd bang drunk and NOT admit it, and those I'd NOT bang drunk, but I don't do that kind of thing.

Also, where a girl goes on a ladder can change. Sometimes a girl starts out at, say, 7.4, but has such a charming personality that it slides up to 8.1. If a girl is a b!tch, it'll slide downwards. Other things that can cause a girl to slide down my ladder include getting a short haircut, clinginess, self-deprecation, and slutty or disrespectful behavior; conversely, letting her hair grow out, playing hard to get (but not impossible to get!), getting shaped and toned up, etc., can also make a woman slide up my ladder.

I have more to write about this, but I need to go now.

BGMan :cool:
 
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lol I thought RKTek was back, darn.

I remember this from the first post - a good review. it's even better if you try to imagine Jackie Mason or Billy Crystal reading this out loud.
 

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I'm not so sure girls have two ladders.

I've talked to two different girls about this thing. One had read the theory, one hadn't.

The one who had read it went nuts. She admitted the theory was so dead on correct it embarassed her. Especially the part about guys treating her like crap. As a side note she's flying down here tomorrow (we used to be hook up buddies.) Good times!

I spoke to another girl of something similiar before I had even heard of the ladder theory. She was my oneitis back in high school. She told me that a girl can't have a close guy friend without being SOMEwhat attracted to him. Later on that night I kissed her for the first time.
 

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I love the Ladder Theory. Without it, I wouldn't be here and would still be an AFC. I'm from the forum there also.

BGMan— Here is the the reason we say that women have two ladders while men have one:

Girls will often keep AFCs they are not attracted to around for company, conversation, validation, therapy, and emotional tampons. Sometimes the girls will actually spend more time with her pet AFC than with her bf. Yet guys do not do that with girls we aren't attracted to. It is possible for a girl to have a very positive response to a guy, yet have no sexual interest in him, while the reverse isn't so true.

So if both sexes had one ladder, then each gender would treat the people at the bottom of their ladder very differently. That is why two ladders makes much more sense. Are there two ladders? Who knows, but it is useful to assume that there are.
 

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Originally posted by 86
lol I thought RKTek was back, darn.


Yeah, I use to enjoy reading his posts.. Him and Kenobi are missing in action.
 
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