The Friendzone Does Not Exist.

[Alex DeLarge]

There's a lot of talk lately about this whole myth of the friendzone. Well I had done some research and put theory into practice on this one, and I managed to overthrow this whole concept with one girl I had known as friends for a few years (been denied dates by her multiple times too).

The key to avoiding the "LJBF" category is to demonstrate your sexuality.

When you're out with the girls in your social circle bring up funny sexy topics to talk about. Slap their butt when they look like they're not paying attention. When they have a shocked look on their face just laugh at them. They'll start laughing too and get a kick out of it.

Let's say it's summer time and your group of friends wants to go swim at night somewhere (guys and girls) suggest skinny dipping to all of them. Even if no one in the group wants to do it, JUMP IN NAKED ANYWAYS! Everyone will get a kick out of this, and it will demonstrate true confidence to the ladies in your group. If anyone talks sh1t on you, they're just a pvssy

I've been doing sh1t like this for the past month or so, and all of the girls in my group are coming onto me. I was even hooking up with one of the girls in my group then our mutual friend came up to me when she walked away and tried making out with me right there! (Another girl who had denied me.)

I hope this helps ya'll. Have fun!

 

[CuriousGirl]

I would agree and disagree with you, there definitely is a friend zone, but I think there are different degree of the friend zone.

For example I have friends that I would probably have sex with if they knew to come on to me, there'd be nothing awkward, it wouldn't ruin the friendship, we'd just have sex. Then there are other friends that are deeper in the friend zone who I wouldn't think to have sex with and I'm not sure how I'd react. Then there are friends in the friend zone who I won't have sex with because they feel something a lot stronger for me than I do them. Then there are friends who I just really would never have sex with no matter what, like little brothers.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

I would agree and disagree with you, there definitely is a friend zone, but I think there are different degree of the friend zone.

For example I have friends that I would probably have sex with if they knew to come on to me, there'd be nothing awkward, it wouldn't ruin the friendship, we'd just have sex. Then there are other friends that are deeper in the friend zone who I wouldn't think to have sex with and I'm not sure how I'd react. Then there are friends in the friend zone who I won't have sex with because they feel something a lot stronger for me than I do them. Then there are friends who I just really would never have sex with no matter what, like little brothers.

So let me further understand your argument here.. These guys you would have sex with if they came on to you, you would not find any romantic interest in them eventually?

 

[Johnny_Kage]

If you're a guy that gets girls, you should never be put in the LJBF position in the first place UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE THERE.

I don't have one female friend that I want to bang right now. Every girl that I want to bang I'm either banging or they shot me down in a blaze of glory.

However, I do have hot female friends that I don't want to bang for one reason or another. Ain't nothing wrong with that

 

[CuriousGirl]

So let me further understand your argument here.. These guys you would have sex with if they came on to you, you would not find any romantic interest in them eventually?

No. I see them as friends, it would seem odd to date them, yet we still might have the kind of relationship that I would have sex with or they might be the kind of guy I would have sex with. So I have a few friends who I would consider being sexually compatible with, we have mutual respect/trust,we have a laugh, we might flirt on occasion, we've known each other a long time, we're good friends. A couple of these friends might be the kind of guy I'd date seriously so lots of sex might change things but then again they've been friends so long it could easily just be a one night stand or two added in for kicks, no hassle. Then the most part are the friends who are also long term friends, sexually compatible but don't have the rest of the personality I'd date so it really would just stay friends with sex having no chance of changing anything.

 

[Maxtro]

Ugh, of course the friendzone exists. That's where I've lived my whole life.

 

[BettorOffSingle]

There's a lot of talk lately about this whole myth of the friendzone. Well I had done some research and put theory into practice on this one, and I managed to overthrow this whole concept with one girl I had known as friends for a few years (been denied dates by her multiple times too).

The key to avoiding the "LJBF" category is to demonstrate your sexuality.

When you're out with the girls in your social circle bring up funny sexy topics to talk about. Slap their butt when they look like they're not paying attention. When they have a shocked look on their face just laugh at them. They'll start laughing too and get a kick out of it.

Let's say it's summer time and your group of friends wants to go swim at night somewhere (guys and girls) suggest skinny dipping to all of them. Even if no one in the group wants to do it, JUMP IN NAKED ANYWAYS! Everyone will get a kick out of this, and it will demonstrate true confidence to the ladies in your group. If anyone talks sh1t on you, they're just a pvssy

I've been doing sh1t like this for the past month or so, and all of the girls in my group are coming onto me. I was even hooking up with one of the girls in my group then our mutual friend came up to me when she walked away and tried making out with me right there! (Another girl who had denied me.)

I hope this helps ya'll. Have fun!

Slap their butt? UNNECESSARY RISK.

Expect some steroid-junkie to confront you out of the blue at some point with the story you thought was so "cute," and either a warning to back off "his" woman, or some "street justice."

You are ignoring a key question here that should be asked whenever someone succeeds by taking risks:

WHO DIED ALONG THE WAY?

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Slap their butt? UNNECESSARY RISK.

Expect some steroid-junkie to confront you out of the blue at some point with the story you thought was so "cute," and either a warning to back off "his" woman, or some "street justice."

You are ignoring a key question here that should be asked whenever someone succeeds by taking risks:

WHO DIED ALONG THE WAY?

It's not a risk to me, just playful behavior. I'm not saying you should do this to random girls you see everywhere.. Just do it to your girls your with.

 

[Sh0t]

You can come off extremely creepy trying some of the above stuff. IN the minds of most creepy dudes, they are being "playful", "masculine". Creepy people don't know they are creepy.

Not a problem with strangers, but don't creep out your friends.

The friend-zone really doesn't exist, because it is self-imposed. If a girl wants to only be friends, simply go hang out with other girls, new girls, and you won't have to worry about it.

If your female friends know/see you dating/****ing other chicks, they will understand you are a sexual creature, even if they don't want to have sex with you. That's the REAL way to demonstrate sexuality, not sexual advances on your supposed friends.

 

[loveshogun]

The only friend zones are the ones in which you willingly place yourself and choose to stick around.

 

[Rogue]

For example I have friends that I would probably have sex with if they knew to come on to me, there'd be nothing awkward, it wouldn't ruin the friendship, we'd just have sex. Then there are other friends that are deeper in the friend zone who I wouldn't think to have sex with and I'm not sure how I'd react. Then there are friends in the friend zone who I won't have sex with because they feel something a lot stronger for me than I do them. Then there are friends who I just really would never have sex with no matter what, like little brothers.

You are misconstruing the friend zone. Just because a guy is friends with you, doesn't mean there is the friend zone.

I will say this: true male-female friendships don't exist. There is always sexual tension, as it's sexual attraction which provides the impetus to take the initiative to become friends. When both parties are not attracted to each other, they don't become friends and both avoid each other or minimize communication (such as co-workers). Of all the girls who have ever initiated friendship with me, they all wanted to fück, but I wasn't attracted to them. When there is reciprocal attraction, circumstances or cluelessness can stand in the way, and so they become "friends." Those guy friends of yours who you "would probably have sex with if they knew to come on to me, there'd be nothing awkward," are not attracted to you (or are too chicken shït or clueless), but you are of them.

 

[Sh0t]

The friend-zone exists, but it doesn't mean devoid of sexual tension. By definition, the friend-zone says one person wants sex(usually the poor guy).

CuriousGirl's friends are not in the friend zone. SHE is in the friend-zone.


MY best friend has a wife. I'm her friend. She's happily in the friend zone with me. I wouldn't sleep with her under any circumstances, even if he wanted a threesome with us.

 

[squirrels]

LOL...alcohol helps.

Women want to f**k. All you have to do is crack the facade. Last summer I convinced two of my friends' girlfriends, who had been drinking, to try kissing each other. I was really in the zone that night and managed to sell them on it. Next thing you know, they're jumping in the pool naked and calling for c*ck.

If you can talk freely and honestly about sexual matters (with people you know WELL, of course), then women will naturally gravitate to you. They see you as the kind of person who thinks that "sex isn't a big deal", and may even believe you're having a TON of it to be so comfortable with talking about it.

Everyone gets horny, and everyone is looking for someone who can appreciate that feeling when it manifests, without being awkward about it.

The concept really isn't new...girls dig guys who aren't afraid of their sexuality and aren't awkward about it.

This doesn't mean that you can just go up to a girl and "whip it out". There are still social rules that have to be followed and such a measure would seem like a "desperation tactic" or something that's "socially awkward". There's definitely a rhythm to escalation.

The idea you're trying to get across is that you understand that women have principles and you're not trying to disrespect those principles, but you don't see anything wrong with a little playful fooling around between consenting adults, as long as it doesn't mean anything.

It starts out with a smack on the arse. Then maybe a little rubbing and groping in a "just kidding/I'm drunk/it's all in fun" attitude. Once you open a small crack, you can start just tapping away at it until more and more of the protective shell comes off and you can start getting to the gooey filling.

The TRICK, of course, is and has always been being able to do it without setting off "propriety warnings". The atmosphere you're going for has to be totally non-judgemental and carefree. Even if someone calls you on it (for example, if you're touching on a girl in front of her boyfriend and he gets p!ssy about it), the attitude is, "What?? Am I doing something wrong??" You respect their moral attitudes, but don't see why they need to get in the way of a good time.

Same thing with egos...don't let your pride get in the way of enjoying yourself. I've tried to get women to pee on my chest before...just so they'd have a story to tell. People LOVE having inside sexual jokes...and crap like that is so outlandish that people get off on the drama. I've legitimately offered a friend of mine's girlfriend $100 to suck off a horse. The point is that people would NEVER do stuff like this "in public", but in a trusted setting, you're trying to establish that no topic or action is "off-limits".

Sh0t says, "Not a problem with strangers, but don't creep out your friends". This kind of stuff is MORE likely to "creep out" strangers than friends, so I don't really understand that statement. It works better when there's trust. You CAN do it with strangers, but only if you can find 2 or 3 people who are at least entertained by your behavior...then the "light-hearted stuff" becomes infectious.

This requires some advanced social calibration, so you guys who are new to "the game" and are coming from being complete AFCs, don't just break this crap out...you'll come off as contrived/mechanical and you won't be able to sell it to people. Kind of like the difference between a good and a sh!tty confidence-man. A sh!tty con-man, you can see through what he's doing right away and it actually CLOSES people off. A skilled con-man, however, can gain people's trust and slowly adjust their reality to the point where he gets what he wants.

Yes, it's morally acceptable to con people, but only if it results in them having a good time.

 

[DonGorgon]

lol its not that complicated.. if she finds you at all physically attractive she will be open to Fing you.. its up to you to make it happen

 

[Sh0t]

Women always want to ****. They might not want to **** YOU though, that's the issue.

You can still be seen as a sexual creature by women while still being in their friend-zone. In fact, this often happens to guys with big reps as players. Part of the double-edged sword.

Their female friends know he is a dog, understand he's a sexual creature, but still don't want HIM near THEIR vagina.

It's not mutually exclusive.

 

[CuriousGirl]

You are misconstruing the friend zone. Just because a guy is friends with you, doesn't mean there is the friend zone.

I will say this: true male-female friendships don't exist. There is always sexual tension, as it's sexual attraction which provides the impetus to take the initiative to become friends. When both parties are not attracted to each other, they don't become friends and both avoid each other or minimize communication (such as co-workers). Of all the girls who have ever initiated friendship with me, they all wanted to fück, but I wasn't attracted to them. When there is reciprocal attraction, circumstances or cluelessness can stand in the way, and so they become "friends." Those guy friends of yours who you "would probably have sex with if they knew to come on to me, there'd be nothing awkward," are not attracted to you (or are too chicken shït or clueless), but you are of them.

CuriousGirl's friends are not in the friend zone. SHE is in the friend-zone.

Actually I would disagree, I have friends where there is no attraction either way, definitely fewer but still those friendships do exist.
Also I would say yeah I'm in the friend zone but only because I've put myself there, I know if I wanted to have sex with them I could. And for those I would probably have sex with, just because I would doesn't mean I want to or doesn't mean I actively seek to. Yet I know if those particular people came on to me it would be difficult for me to resist, but they don't know that. I'm pretty certain they want to have sex with me, they like to think I want to have sex with them but I imagine they are ultimately unsure of how I'd react if they did come on to me.
I worry we are looking at this too 'one-dimensionally'too. There are relationships beyond sexual tension, even if there is an element of sexual tension within it.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

You can come off extremely creepy trying some of the above stuff. IN the minds of most creepy dudes, they are being "playful", "masculine". Creepy people don't know they are creepy.

Not a problem with strangers, but don't creep out your friends.

I've done this on so many girls I have been friends with and they just laugh and smile about it. You definitely need to have them in a playful, flirty mood and all that, but it works for me.

 

[PapiChulo]

Call it the ugly-zone, no-fuk-he's got aids -zone. Its not only about the demonstrating how sexual you are, but rather about your willingness to pursue that, your "balls" in other words. Tell a woman that you want to f*ck her and will f*ck her when the opportunity offers itself and she will do one of the following:

1. Smile and f*ck you at some point. (some attraction or she is stupid)

2. Drop you like a hot potato. (not attracted-you are a creep to her now)


Friendzone is a contract she gives you or tries to trick you into. You job is to either accept it or not.

A chump friend of mine has been deliberately friend-zonning women since high school, then managed to get invited to parties and such, getting them drunk and pressuring them into sex. Needless to say, this deceptive tactics work only once with every girl because he is really disappointing to them for many reasons.