The "Fake" Good Women

Sonny Knight

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This Thread is about discussing the "fake" Good Women that are out here running amok, causing chaos and destroying men

First here are the signs you're dealing with a "fake" good woman

1. She bad mouths here exes

This is used as a way to manipulate the sucka into thinking that she was just the innocent victim in the situation and that she needs saving, where she creates a damsel in distress scenario, which gives the sucka more incentive to invest more time emotionally , than he should , in this scenario she takes no blame in why she broke up which in the eyes of her suitor reinforces that she is a "good" woman , who just chose the wrong guy, which in fact she's as much to blame if not more than her ex.


2. She comes from a female dominated household

See a female dominated household, she's never had to be accountable for her actions, she's virtually gone unchecked her entire life growing up, so it gives her a false sense off entitlement and accountability for her actions.


3. She hides behind her career and or religion

She uses her career/education and religion as a mask for her hoeish ways, it's easier her for to sucker you in if she comes to the table with her religion and education Becuase most men don't think off women who attend church on a regular basis, or women with professional women as deviants, even from a media perspective,they often portray the devious women as strippers, pornstars, clubrats, and often selling the professional women as good women looking for a good man which is false these women are just as even more deviant than the pros, who I call the "Honest Hoes".

4. They Always Speak ill off Honest Hoes

This is a way to separate themselves from the "devious women" and portay themselves on a higher platue than those women, their always dowining hoeish behavior or what women are doing what, part of it is there guilty conscious trying to convince themselves they aren't in the same class with the honest hoe, this is also Becuase their jealous off the honest hoe, Becuase the honest hoe is able to gain financially for their hoeish behavior while the "fake" good woman is not.

5. They have a lot of male friends "brothers"

These women are always brining up some guys from her past or present andante calls them her "brother" but heres the catch , she never willingly introduces you to them, you just happen to run into them, or you see them on her Facebook page, or they call periodically at late night times, and also will hang out with these guys she calls her "brothers", this is a bad sign Becuase her hoeish ways have made her fall out of circles with many of her female friends so she uses her make friends to make up for her needs, it also gives off the impression that she's relatable, and just one of the guys, which will break the mans guard down with dealing with her, most honest hoes don't have male friends.



Whats the "Fake" Good Woman's agenda

1. Get low value males to simp away their time and energy, see unlike the honest hoe they lack the desirability to get niggas with status or money to take care of them financially/socially, all they get is time and energy from a low value simp

2. The "Alpha Male" usually can read thru their bull**** and lies, so they focus their energy on the low value male, they usually try to trap the simp with marriage and or a baby, but they will constantly cheat on him because, subconsciously they know their level and that's not the status off wifey infact they have no desire to be wife's, they really want the life off the Honest Hoe, which is usually hard to achieve Becuase they don't have the same desirability off the stripper ect.

3. Thier fantasy is to be a side piece to an alpha male, this usually doesn't happen for too long Becuase men off status will usually marry or have "real" good women as main chicks, and they will chose the "honest hoe" over the "fake" good woman, Becuase she's sexually more desirable and she brings less drama Becuase both parties usually know their role, see the "fake" good woman is a terrible side piece Becuase they always lead to their emotions every thing with them is about an emotional bond and playing off men's vulnerability, when they can't do this it puts them in an uncomfortable situation in which they can't control.

4. They usually prey on weak and broken men, men with no family , friends or just in all a strong base, the shy guy, the guy that naturally isn't good with women, Becuase in this situation she gains control, and can easily manipulate , she knows he's gullible and he won't judge her for fear off losing the one piece off ***** he thinks he can get, and the fake love and support she seems to give him, her "fake" nurturing is usually just her manipulating him to do her deeds.


All in all this is the woman I despise the most Becuase they are the most dishonest , cowardly, manipulates out there, these are the woman that turn men bitter and hateful, there are too many instances where these women get away with murder and are never called out on there behavior, but more importantly most men don't see the warning signs.


Really this all came from an argument I had with an ex girlfriend from over 6 yrs ago, who asked me why do all her relationships failed, and I told her its Becuase you're a dishonest hoe, you won't own up to being a hoe, you fool men with the wifey talk then jerk the rug from under them, then the cycle repeats ect
 

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nice post Sonny. I know many of these ho's.
 

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Wow, I shoulda read this post sooner, I met two of this kind so far.. ended my other relationship with 1 just two days ago.. all the things add up
 

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Great post

Sonny Knight said:
4. They usually prey on weak and broken men, men with no family , friends or just in all a strong base, the shy guy, the guy that naturally isn't good with women, Becuase in this situation she gains control, and can easily manipulate , she knows he's gullible and he won't judge her for fear off losing the one piece off ***** he thinks he can get, and the fake love and support she seems to give him, her "fake" nurturing is usually just her manipulating him to do her deeds.
...*sigh* she cares [ :p ]. Been there.
 
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Whats the "Fake" Good Woman's agenda

1. Get low value males to simp away their time and energy, see unlike the honest hoe they lack the desirability to get niggas with status or money to take care of them financially/socially, all they get is time and energy from a low value simp

2. The "Alpha Male" usually can read thru their bull**** and lies, so they focus their energy on the low value male, they usually try to trap the simp with marriage and or a baby, but they will constantly cheat on him because, subconsciously they know their level and that's not the status off wifey infact they have no desire to be wife's, they really want the life off the Honest Hoe, which is usually hard to achieve Becuase they don't have the same desirability off the stripper ect.

3. Thier fantasy is to be a side piece to an alpha male, this usually doesn't happen for too long Becuase men off status will usually marry or have "real" good women as main chicks, and they will chose the "honest hoe" over the "fake" good woman, Becuase she's sexually more desirable and she brings less drama Becuase both parties usually know their role, see the "fake" good woman is a terrible side piece Becuase they always lead to their emotions every thing with them is about an emotional bond and playing off men's vulnerability, when they can't do this it puts them in an uncomfortable situation in which they can't control.

4. They usually prey on weak and broken men, men with no family , friends or just in all a strong base, the shy guy, the guy that naturally isn't good with women, Becuase in this situation she gains control, and can easily manipulate , she knows he's gullible and he won't judge her for fear off losing the one piece off ***** he thinks he can get, and the fake love and support she seems to give him, her "fake" nurturing is usually just her manipulating him to do her deeds.
I was going through it again and personally the difficult thing is humility. Accepting AFC status and battling delusions is hard :)
 

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Only good women are uglies and fatties
Rarely. Don't let them fool you. I got trapped by this twice too often. Never again!
 

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I met someone like that the past summer, this describes her 100%

Um she was a coworker of mine, she was engaged to some wus looking guy and she was vicious, like bloodthirsty tiger vicious, with of course a jesus cross and Mary pictures on her desk... :p
 

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Sonny Knight said:
1. She bad mouths here exes

2. She comes from a female dominated household

3. She hides behind her career and or religion


4. They Always Speak ill off Honest Hoes

5. They have a lot of male friends "brothers"
genius poster is genius

I just kicked out a woman for being fake and manipulative, she did observations 1,2,3 and 5

yes, they are like chameleons, looking for a nest while fvcking others on the side
 

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Awesome post. Always, always always trust your common sense. The bread & butter of "Rules girls" and female manipulation is pulling the wool over your eyes; making you believe that the sky is red and 2+2=5. If your gut is telling you she might not be as innocent as she's making it sound, she probably isn't.
 
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I think this is what starts everyone off into this part of the net. I just want to point something out though. If you detect one, don't confront her about it. Then they'll do what they can to **** on you once you do. My experience was with a girl who didn't typically date the most intelligent guys (easy for her to manipulate and play) so they never called her out on her **** or at least weren't able to see through her. I did, called her out on it, and then she went on a bit of a smear campaign. The problem was most of our friends were relatively blue-pill and she can play the victim card real well (usually by being extra nice and friendly to them) so it took alot of time for them to finally see my point. Trust your gut, move on.
 

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There really is no such thing as a good woman these days. I don't even believe true love exists. Just false love. But this fake good girl routine is aimed at betas that are already friendzoned.
 

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nismo-4 said:
There really is no such thing as a good woman these days. I don't even believe true love exists. Just false love. But this fake good girl routine is aimed at betas that are already friendzoned.

I sort of agree, but not necessarily with the 'friendzoned' aspect, as this implies no sex. They'll **** the comfort/beta boyfriend or whatever you want to call him, but it's just to keep him around for her emotional security, her sense of having someone if you will. The 'good woman' routine helps with this as well. Alot of these girls like being in a relationship just to not feel alone. It doesn't translate to genuine attraction.
 

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nismo-4 said:
There really is no such thing as a good woman these days. I don't even believe true love exists. Just false love. But this fake good girl routine is aimed at betas that are already friendzoned.
fact #1
women lie, cheat and manipulate, just to protect their status in the eyes of the public

fact #2
women prefer men who just **** them and abuse them, compared to man who asskiss, nurture and don`t escalate

why is so hard for you to believe that truth is the women want only sex, just like men, but they can`t ask for it directly or they will be labeled as sluts

why is it so hard to believe that romantic comedies are hollywood illusion, just like the action movies or pr0n

why is it so hard to believe that social conditioning is about make you a diligent worker bee, when you see that everybody who brakes social unwritten laws and taboos gets ahead, while the "good people" remain in the dust

I had a car accident once and was clinically dead and I can assure you the tunnel thing is bogus, it`s all nothing, emptiness, you don`t even know that you are dead

this is the only life you have, so stop wondering about mental masturbation, start living while you can
 

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Disclaimer This Is Not a No Mam Thread, I want you all to enjoy life and get laid

This Thread is about discussing the "fake" Good Women that are out here running amok, causing chaos and destroying men

First here are the signs you're dealing with a "fake" good woman

1. She bad mouths here exes

This is used as a way to manipulate the sucka into thinking that she was just the innocent victim in the situation and that she needs saving, where she creates a damsel in distress scenario, which gives the sucka more incentive to invest more time emotionally , than he should , in this scenario she takes no blame in why she broke up which in the eyes of her suitor reinforces that she is a "good" woman , who just chose the wrong guy, which in fact she's as much to blame if not more than her ex.

This is good stuff. I remember my ex bringing up the fact that all men have left her/gotten married after, abused her and left her with a baby. In essence, the victim mentality and I would just look at her and laugh in the inside. The things she would do and say were all a manipulation, for me to become more invested emotionally and become the father to her daughter.
 

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This is good stuff. I remember my ex bringing up the fact that all men have left her/gotten married after, abused her and left her with a baby. In essence, the victim mentality and I would just look at her and laugh in the inside. The things she would do and say were all a manipulation, for me to become more invested emotionally and become the father to her daughter.
Yep, its scary how good they are when you dont have enough reference experience to see through all the feelings. Experienced the exact same scenario and it destroyed me to the point of giving me erection problems for over a year now, but from the ashes something new and stronger is rising, and I like it better now. So I guess, thank you hoe for opening my eyes and understanding what I want and dont want :)
 

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Yep, its scary how good they are when you dont have enough reference experience to see through all the feelings. Experienced the exact same scenario and it destroyed me to the point of giving me erection problems for over a year now, but from the ashes something new and stronger is rising, and I like it better now. So I guess, thank you hoe for opening my eyes and understanding what I want and dont want :)
This woman was the good "fake" woman. It was hard to see through the feelings and amazing sex, but somehow the things she would do had an end goal. Now I know what I want and I don't, thanks to that experience and this forum.
 

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Reading this thread really made me feel so much shame in myself. Ex HPD did every single thing mentioned and I fell for it all. I feel so stupid for not walking away the many times I tried. My intiutont from day one told me this chick can't be trusted. She conned me for two years, I caught her a couple times doing inappropriate chit and left her, only to be sucked back into her vortex. She did cry her eyes out days before we got an abortion saying "why doesn't anyone want to get married and have a kid with me". I wish I would have told her what the OP said "Because you're a dishonest hoe, you won't own up to being a hoe, you fool men with the wifey talk then jerk the rug from under them, then the cycle repeats"

I was that nice guy she tried to sucker with marriage and a kid. I always scratched my head in the beginning wondering why all her ex''s looked like wuss's, when she was a dominate beautiful women. I look Alpha, but I'm broken as hell inside. My lack of experience with women, being beta, having a wuss for a dad that never taught me to be a man. Hell, I even tell him mom is walking all over him, but he denies it. My mom controls him like a puppet. I even told that to my ex in which I think only fueled her into manipulating me more knowing id stay no matter what. Even when I caught her cheating I still went back, over and over again. I can only imagine how stupid and pathetic I looked in her eyes.

That two relationship from hell made me learn more about myself and life in general, than the past 15 years. It truly was a wake up call in terms of realizing how broken I am and how flawed my perception of life really is. All that came at price so high, that it's not worth the pain, regret and shame I'm left at feeling towards myself each and everyday.
 
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