The Difference between Pick-up material and DJ material

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Pick-up material and DJ material are different. You should first learn to separate the two from each other and realize that they are providing you with different information.

I’ll start with a little information about pick-up.

Pick-up material is meant:
1.) To teach you how to approach women.
2.) Teach you about women and how they act and react to men.
3.) To teach you about different tactics and strategies on how to seduce women.
4.) Teach you about what things attract women or are attractive to women.
5.) Adfkjadlkjflakdfjldj women.
6.) Women xxxxxlkadjfklasdjff.
7.) Women.

Now if you haven’t gotten the picture yet, pick-up is generally about the woman. If you attempt to learn pick-up first, your focus is set on the woman. Pick-up is complicated to execute unless you possess all or a few of the DJ characteristics. It would not be wise to learn pick-up if you wish to learn it, before you work on becoming a DJ.

Now a little bit about DJ material:

DJ Material is meant to teach you:
1.) How to be self sufficient.
2.) How to develop goals and plan/work to achieve those goals.
3.) That your life does not revolve around women.
4.) To be happy.
5.) To be happy with who you are.
6.) To be proud of who you are.
7.) To always seek to better yourself.
8.) To be the best you can be.
9.) To be a man.

Now although I have stated that pick-up and DJ material are different that doesn’t mean they don’t compliment or aim at overlapping with some of the same topics which they do. The differences between the two are that pick-up is meant to compliment the foundations that are built upon being a don juan.

You don’t need to be a don juan or a pick up artist to attract women. Having either of these skills just increases your chances. I can guarantee that there isn’t a pick-up artist or guru out there that doesn’t possess at least a few DJ qualities. That being said DJ material is the foundation of what pick-up should be built on because:

DJ material teaches you to be self sufficient, self reliant, independent, and to go after what you want, whatever that may be. As a DJ you realize, that you only live once and you will attempt to make the best of it. Becoming a DJ instills qualities in you that attract the opposite sex not the other way around which is what pick-up is about. With DJ qualities women will start to come to you. With the addition of pick-up skills and techniques and DJ skills you can have a swarm of women at your call but that ultimately shouldn’t be your focus.
 

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1.) To teach you how to approach women.
2.) Teach you about women and how they act and react to men.
4.) Teach you about what things attract women or are attractive to women.
These are required to be a happy man.
 

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It's all the same. It's guys improving themselves with the end goal of being better with women.
 

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Nutz said:
It's all the same. It's guys improving themselves with the end goal of being better with women.
It's not the same. Please point out this end of in the DJ bible where it states it being as getting better with women.

A PUA’s ultimate purpose is to get women any which way that is possible.

The purpose of a DJ is to become a man, defined, and happy.

A DJ can go after women if he wants to, but that is only if he wants to. He will also attract women without PUA tactics or strategies. It’s the vibe that he emits and the way that he acts that is naturally appealing to the opposite sex. A DJ’s goal is not to get better with women, it just that becoming a DJ naturally makes one better with women. DJ’s are successful because they work to be successful. They’re happy, achieve and accomplish their dream and passions. Women are just a part of a DJ’s life, not the goal.
Most people come here for PUA material. The community here is also catered toward assisting with Pick-up. Now, why aren’t the two words DJ and Pick-Up Artist ever meshed together if they are the same? It’s because they aren’t.

As I stated earlier, DJ material is stand alone and does help with pick-up as well as everything else you will encounter in life. This is why DJ material is preferred here at SS over PU material. PU material is not stand alone and only works if you develop DJ traits. It’s sole purpose is catered toward the opposite gender.

As the members come here and mature over time you see their reasons for coming back to the forum change. It normally first begins with learning about PU, since generally most come to this site to learn how to get better with women, although that was not my reason.

It starts learning things that are essentially masked by examples that cater to your needs but they ultimately cover the main purpose of teaching you DJ traits.

Don’t put up with sh1t that women feed you. No, means no and stand firm by your word. You read this at first only because it slightly relates to getting women in the minds of newbies but if it wasn’t written this way, it probably would not be read at all.
What do you eventually get out of this? You eventually associate this with not taking sh1t in general and to be firm in your decisions.

Be patient with the girl. Don’t scare them away, there are always other fish in the sea so take your time. Even when you think things aren’t going your way stand firm and be patient.
What do you get out of this? You learn patience.

Don’t be afraid to make moves. Rejection is better than regret. Mistakes are a part of life, live and learn.
What do you get out of this? You learn to take initiative and to no be afraid of failure since failure is what ultimately creates success.

Getting a girl is not success. This is one of the 15 lessons in the DJ bible and is pretty self explanatory but I’ll touch up on the main point. Success is being happy.

If a female is what defines your happiness then you’ve clearly mixed up your priorities/readings here.

DJ material is meant to teach you the qualities that make a happy successful man through articles that are structured to peak the readers interest.

It’s like Jackie Chan’s Karate kid or even the original Karate Kid. You’re learning to defend/block by learning to take off the jacket or put on the jacket (wax on-wax off for the original). Except this is the opposite way.

They cover the same things, but DJ material covers a whole lot more.

So im going to disagree with you Nutz, they are definitely not the same.
 

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Ease said:
These are required to be a happy man.
These aren't the only things that contribute to happiness unless you're saying that women define your happiness.
 

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AAAgent said:
It's not the same. Please point out this end of in the DJ bible where it states it being as getting better with women.

A PUA’s ultimate purpose is to get women any which way that is possible.

The purpose of a DJ is to become a man, defined, and happy.

A DJ can go after women if he wants to, but that is only if he wants to. He will also attract women without PUA tactics or strategies. It’s the vibe that he emits and the way that he acts that is naturally appealing to the opposite sex. A DJ’s goal is not to get better with women, it just that becoming a DJ naturally makes one better with women. DJ’s are successful because they work to be successful. They’re happy, achieve and accomplish their dream and passions. Women are just a part of a DJ’s life, not the goal.
Most people come here for PUA material. The community here is also catered toward assisting with Pick-up. Now, why aren’t the two words DJ and Pick-Up Artist ever meshed together if they are the same? It’s because they aren’t.

As I stated earlier, DJ material is stand alone and does help with pick-up as well as everything else you will encounter in life. This is why DJ material is preferred here at SS over PU material. PU material is not stand alone and only works if you develop DJ traits. It’s sole purpose is catered toward the opposite gender.

As the members come here and mature over time you see their reasons for coming back to the forum change. It normally first begins with learning about PU, since generally most come to this site to learn how to get better with women, although that was not my reason.

It starts learning things that are essentially masked by examples that cater to your needs but they ultimately cover the main purpose of teaching you DJ traits.

Don’t put up with sh1t that women feed you. No, means no and stand firm by your word. You read this at first only because it slightly relates to getting women in the minds of newbies but if it wasn’t written this way, it probably would not be read at all.
What do you eventually get out of this? You eventually associate this with not taking sh1t in general and to be firm in your decisions.

Be patient with the girl. Don’t scare them away, there are always other fish in the sea so take your time. Even when you think things aren’t going your way stand firm and be patient.
What do you get out of this? You learn patience.

Don’t be afraid to make moves. Rejection is better than regret. Mistakes are a part of life, live and learn.
What do you get out of this? You learn to take initiative and to no be afraid of failure since failure is what ultimately creates success.

Getting a girl is not success. This is one of the 15 lessons in the DJ bible and is pretty self explanatory but I’ll touch up on the main point. Success is being happy.

If a female is what defines your happiness then you’ve clearly mixed up your priorities/readings here.

DJ material is meant to teach you the qualities that make a happy successful man through articles that are structured to peak the readers interest.

It’s like Jackie Chan’s Karate kid or even the original Karate Kid. You’re learning to defend/block by learning to take off the jacket or put on the jacket (wax on-wax off for the original). Except this is the opposite way.

They cover the same things, but DJ material covers a whole lot more.

So im going to disagree with you Nutz, they are definitely not the same.

You're relying on sementics, mental masturbation, and a giant reframe that I'm calling bull**** on. It's all the same in the end.
 

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You still have the same response which doesn't really clarify much on your standpoint.

What i'm saying is a DJ= has a combination of multiple skills and traits which hypothetically is 10

PU skills is a 1 out of 10.

If you can see 1=10 then you must be imagining a giant reframe.

Again please point out evidence where this is the same if you are going to make that point.
 

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Only thing is AAAgent, it's pretty obvious that people come here to learn to be better with women. Truth is if you aren't going to turn into some fake liar type of person the only real way to do this is to improve who you are as a man, because that's actually what women are looking for (and btw why sh*t tests exist). They go hand in hand in my opinion. And yes you should be happy first before being happy with women, but in all truth being good with women and getting what you want can also MAKE you happy as well.
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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