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The communication game

ebracer05

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This first part is an overview of the success I've been having lately. Those inclined to do so may skip that. The question comes at the end.

History

The more I've been getting all of this stuff, the more my success has been growing. I've gone out with 7 different girls over the last month and have come to the place where I chose to stop seeing all of them except 3, despite all but 1 still really wanting to see me. I'm still seeing 2 of the girls with another one on the horizon, but I'm starting to really like one. She's one of the first one's I met... we've been talking since early June and went out our first date 3 weeks ago. We've have 3 total dates. Our next one is planned for Saturday.

BTW, this Saturday I've got a great date planned. We're meeting a nature preserve with a huge field next to a lake at dusk to grill out and watch the sunset. She just moved to my area from the other side of the country, and loves sweet corn... something they never have fresh along the Mexican border. So we'll have that and watch the sunset over the lake. Take a night hike through the woods. And lay out on a blanket with her favorite Belgium beer she told me about at the beach last weekend (Stella Artrois... and I don't think she's expecting I'll remember that because she said it in passing) and look for constellations. I also have a telescope I can bring so we can watch some of the Perseids meteor shower. She's a very outdoorsy, adventurous, wanderlust type of girl, which is awesome. And she'll love this.

I realize I have historically been a primary candidate for the deadly illness of "oneitits", and so I'm trying to take measures to ensure that doesn't happen. Notwithstanding all of that though, I really like this girl. It's not me putting her up on a pedestal or anything like that, I genuinely feel good about the time we spend together, I think she has a wonderful personality, and I would like to develop a deeper relationship with her. I am still going on with my life without being paralyzed, continuously thinking about this woman. But I am drawn to her. And as the selector, she is someone I select.

And so the obvious response to all of that in my mind is then, "well, dude, go do it!". And that's what I want to do. But often times, statements like that sound great when your bros are surrounded by a bunch of alcohol, but on a practical level, they aren't much help.

Question

She's a different girl than I'm used to, because quite unfortunately for me, I've tended to date a bunch of loser girls because it's all I thought I could get. She's also several years older... I'm 24 and she'll be 30 next month. This girl has a great career, a life, and tons going for her. I believe she's also dealing with the baggage of previous relational hurt and feels trepidations about surrendering her feelings to a man. And yet, the things she says to me indicates that she is starting to do so with me.

And I want this to happen. Think of the song The Music of the Night from Phantom of the Opera - I want her to lost in a sea of passion over me bound to the presence I have and to be willing to "let her soul give in" as the song says. And it's starting... but too slow for my tastes.

She's made a couple of comments that have led me to modify my game with her, particularly that when she first meets a guy, she let's them go immediately if they text her continuously because it tells her they don't have a life. She wants someone who already has a life and doesn't need her to become theirs. And so I have been overly cautious communicating with her. I don't communicate with every day, sometimes for a few days in a row. In all of my previous relationships though, I'd usually say something, no matter how small each day to keep her thinking about me.

What would you all do about this? What would be a good game plan to maintain communication with this girl on a decent level to keep my game good, but to also ensure that she misses me. Based on the things she says to me, I have a pretty good idea that I have been on her mind. And I want that to only continue to intensify. Is playing it back like I've been doing and maintaining a fairly high level of scarcity the right move, or should I be a little more aggressive. I feel like if I was anymore conservative, we wouldn't be talking at all. It all comes down to communication anyways... developing that sacred emotional connection that makes her soul lust for you.

Ideas, suggestions, commentary? Any would be welcome.
 

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continue to communicate with her at your current rate, i think you are doing fine with that. what you can do is that in the texts or phone calls to her, send her things that dont require a response, make her smile, and she will think about you all day.

ex:eek:mg the craziest thing just happened! have a good story to tell when she responds.

ex: i just saw your twin! have a crazy story to tell when she responds.

ex: i just found something interesting to ask you....i call you later.

none of theses messages require her to call you or text you right back, but they should intrigue her to find out whats up. i use these as texts messages as bait when i want her to call me on the phone. usually they call, but if they text you a response like what happened? say, too much to text i'll call you later. shows you have things going on in your life, your busy, and you dont need to hear from her right away, shows non-neediness
 

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thevilittletroll said:
continue to communicate with her at your current rate, i think you are doing fine with that. what you can do is that in the texts or phone calls to her, send her things that dont require a response, make her smile, and she will think about you all day.

ex:eek:mg the craziest thing just happened! have a good story to tell when she responds.

ex: i just saw your twin! have a crazy story to tell when she responds.

ex: i just found something interesting to ask you....i call you later.

none of theses messages require her to call you or text you right back, but they should intrigue her to find out whats up. i use these as texts messages as bait when i want her to call me on the phone. usually they call, but if they text you a response like what happened? say, too much to text i'll call you later. shows you have things going on in your life, your busy, and you dont need to hear from her right away, shows non-neediness
That's great, and actually one of the things I was looking for. A way to ensure I'm in her mind. But those examples you gave me are things that seem to me to require a response, and something I'm sure she'd respond to. I've actually used the first and third before and she'll send me a response back asking "mr. mysterious" to expound about what it was I just said. I've had tendencies in the past to say cheesy/flirty things like...

"You wouldn't believe what just happened!"

"Yea, what's that?"

"I was just thinking about you, and I got the biggest smile :)"

And then she'd give the typical happy girl response about how she's smiling too.

I place a high value on romance and really like making a girl feel special... which is totally different than placing her on a pedestal.. but I mean genuinely evoking a positive emotional response from her so that she not only starts smiling and feeling good, but also about me because I prompted that. But what I really want to do is figure out a way to make her be the one carrying a silly grin across her face throughout the day because she's smiling thinking about me.

I've been holding off on the type of example that I just gave because while I have been intentional about the fact that I do like the girl... I think it's stupid pull the bait and switch thing where you trick the girl in to talking with her because you want to be her friend and then BOOM - all of a sudden you tell her you love her. I'm comfortable enough in myself as a man that if I like a girl, I embrace those feelings and act accordingly.

That being said, I want to make sure I'm conveying the right thing. And with the example I gave, what I'm saying is I'm sitting here thinking about you and smiling, but gives no indication that I'm also leading (and I actually am leading) a worthwhile exciting life (but if she doesn't know that I do by now, she's an idiot). And so I'm a little conflicted about whether my example is the right way to go.

So I guess what I'm asking in this really long round about way is to expound just a bit more on what you were saying because it doesn't seem like the examples you gave achieve the results I'm looking for... unless I am not understanding.

Thank you for you advice thevilittletroll
 

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I would still appreciate any additional insights, particularly in reference to the example I gave. Do I really want to admit to the girl that I've been thinking about her? I've been thinking about this today and am learning towards "why does it matter". I am the selector and I like the girl. I've been thinking about her. She should be happy about that. And if she isn't, after about a month and a half of communicating and three dates that all went well, I say she is unworthy of my attention.

Maybe she's starting to get to me more than I am giving her credit for, and I don't like that. I've been longing to fall in love, but I get stupid when I really start to like a girl. And I like this one and don't want to blow it. I do much better with girls when there are no feelings involved.

I want to ensure I'm doing everything I can in between our dates to make her feel as attracted for me and to miss me as much as possible. Is there anything else I can do? I'm fine when I'm actually with the girl, that's when I'm at my best. In between dates though, ehh... I have to be very deliberate about what I do or I come on too strong. My instincts tell me I need to keep the few days on few days off text/phone call thing going, but I really want to talk to her more than that and make some love story happen today! But back to reality.... So some one (or several people) reinforce the truth to me.
 
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