The Chicago experience

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I moved to the Chicago area recently and noticed that it's very different than the South, where I moved from. People are incredibly antisocial here and act self-righteous. Neighborhoods are heavily segregated (i.e. Old Town-White people, Pilsen-Hispanic, Southside-Black)

If you go on the Chicago or CTA subreddits, you'll occasionally see women complain and describe their encounters with a "creep" that was just making basic conversation https://www.reddit.com/r/cta/s/faQOQiarNP

I've had numerous experiences where I get straight up ignored when attempting to make conversation. Times where I could be asking for directions, and girls rudely wave me off and say NO.

On a couple of occasions, I've smiled and said "hey, how you doing" to girls I was walking by on the sidewalk amoungst crowds, in broad daylight, and they looked at me and powerwalked in a different direction. Extreme reactions and kinda funny looking back

To make sure I wasn't crazy, I even tried asking a dude for directions in Wrigleyville on a day when it wasn't busy or cold and he just rudely brushed me off and kept walking.

Even the retail employees in Chicago are often rude and don't give a ****

This is by far the most rude and dismissive population I've had to live amoungst and I plan on moving to another state before the end of year. Many people do not have manners.

As you can imagine people RARELY initiate conversation. The only time someone initiated conversation with me here was some dude at Whole Foods. We exchanged numbers since he seemed pretty cool. Couple days later, he tries to reel me into an MLM scheme and I block him.

Any time I've spoken to friendly people that are willing to have a conversation, or co-workers, they agree that people here can be cold and distant.

What's hilarious is that reddit posts of girls complaining that they're not being approached occasionally pop up. Well, they're afraid of getting blasted on social media!

Moral of the story, don't move to Chicago. If you want the city life, consider moving into any other big city, unless you have a clique I guess, since this city is so damn cliquey. I'm sure New York is better. There are definitely friendly people here. I'd say it's probably 50/50, a mixed experience.

On the bright side, I've had normal, positive interactions with girls here that aren't ugly on the inside and are naturally polite/respectful.

I've also adjusted my approach, getting positive reactions most of the time now

Just sharing my experience.

Southern hospitality > Midwestern
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I moved to the Chicago area recently and noticed that it's very different than the South, where I moved from. People are incredibly antisocial here and act self-righteous. Neighborhoods are heavily segregated (i.e. Old Town-White people, Pilsen-Hispanic, Southside-Black)

If you go on the Chicago or CTA subreddits, you'll occasionally see women complain and describe their encounters with a "creep" that was just making basic conversation https://www.reddit.com/r/cta/s/faQOQiarNP

I've had numerous experiences where I get straight up ignored when attempting to make conversation. Times where I could be asking for directions, and girls rudely wave me off and say NO.

On a couple of occasions, I've smiled and said "hey, how you doing" to girls I was walking by on the sidewalk amoungst crowds, in broad daylight, and they looked at me and powerwalked in a different direction. Extreme reactions and kinda funny looking back

To make sure I wasn't crazy, I even tried asking a dude for directions in Wrigleyville on a day when it wasn't busy or cold and he just rudely brushed me off and kept walking.

Even the retail employees in Chicago are often rude and don't give a ****

This is by far the most rude and dismissive population I've had to live amoungst and I plan on moving to another state before the end of year. Many people do not have manners.

As you can imagine people RARELY initiate conversation. The only time someone initiated conversation with me here was some dude at Whole Foods. We exchanged numbers since he seemed pretty cool. Couple days later, he tries to reel me into an MLM scheme and I block him.

Any time I've spoken to friendly people that are willing to have a conversation, or co-workers, they agree that people here can be cold and distant.

What's hilarious is that reddit posts of girls complaining that they're not being approached occasionally pop up. Well, they're afraid of getting blasted on social media!

Moral of the story, don't move to Chicago. If you want the city life, consider moving into any other big city, unless you have a clique I guess, since this city is so damn cliquey. I'm sure New York is better. There are definitely friendly people here. I'd say it's probably 50/50, a mixed experience.

On the bright side, I've had normal, positive interactions with girls here that aren't ugly on the inside and are naturally polite/respectful.

I've also adjusted my approach, getting positive reactions most of the time now

Just sharing my experience.

Southern hospitality > Midwestern
What do you expect? That city has a bad reputation for crime and being mugged? I think that's just a defense mechanism that you're dealing with than being anti social and rudeness. What you're doing right now that is working is actually Social intelligence and I applaud you for that. May I ask what you're doing differently now that gets more positive reactions? Maybe it can work for some of the guys here who are in Urban areas and terrains. You should try building a short term social circle where you're at, just a group of people to hang out with on the weekends for Pizza or something and try to enjoy yourself as much as possible.
 

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I moved to the Chicago area recently and noticed that it's very different than the South, where I moved from. People are incredibly antisocial here and act self-righteous. Neighborhoods are heavily segregated (i.e. Old Town-White people, Pilsen-Hispanic, Southside-Black)

If you go on the Chicago or CTA subreddits, you'll occasionally see women complain and describe their encounters with a "creep" that was just making basic conversation https://www.reddit.com/r/cta/s/faQOQiarNP

I've had numerous experiences where I get straight up ignored when attempting to make conversation. Times where I could be asking for directions, and girls rudely wave me off and say NO.

On a couple of occasions, I've smiled and said "hey, how you doing" to girls I was walking by on the sidewalk amoungst crowds, in broad daylight, and they looked at me and powerwalked in a different direction. Extreme reactions and kinda funny looking back

To make sure I wasn't crazy, I even tried asking a dude for directions in Wrigleyville on a day when it wasn't busy or cold and he just rudely brushed me off and kept walking.

Even the retail employees in Chicago are often rude and don't give a ****

This is by far the most rude and dismissive population I've had to live amoungst and I plan on moving to another state before the end of year. Many people do not have manners.

As you can imagine people RARELY initiate conversation. The only time someone initiated conversation with me here was some dude at Whole Foods. We exchanged numbers since he seemed pretty cool. Couple days later, he tries to reel me into an MLM scheme and I block him.

Any time I've spoken to friendly people that are willing to have a conversation, or co-workers, they agree that people here can be cold and distant.

What's hilarious is that reddit posts of girls complaining that they're not being approached occasionally pop up. Well, they're afraid of getting blasted on social media!

Moral of the story, don't move to Chicago. If you want the city life, consider moving into any other big city, unless you have a clique I guess, since this city is so damn cliquey. I'm sure New York is better. There are definitely friendly people here. I'd say it's probably 50/50, a mixed experience.

On the bright side, I've had normal, positive interactions with girls here that aren't ugly on the inside and are naturally polite/respectful.

I've also adjusted my approach, getting positive reactions most of the time now

Just sharing my experience.

Southern hospitality > Midwestern
I'm from Southern Illinois, which is the South, and we tend to view Chicago similarly. And I'm not chat gpt generated, like a lot of this web site recently.
 

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What do you expect? That city has a bad reputation for crime and being mugged? I think that's just a defense mechanism that you're dealing with than being anti social and rudeness. What you're doing right now that is working is actually Social intelligence and I applaud you for that. May I ask what you're doing differently now that gets more positive reactions? Maybe it can work for some of the guys here who are in Urban areas and terrains. You should try building a short term social circle where you're at, just a group of people to hang out with on the weekends for Pizza or something and try to enjoy yourself as much as possible.
Crime is overblown. I have yet to personally witness a crime and I've gone out into the city nearly every single day since January. Cops are everywhere. I literally live near O block and I've not had any issues. Will you see weird folks from time to time? Yes, but they're clearly harmless and the type you'd even catch in any small city. The crime paranoia is a poor excuse to be rude. You won't find often any shady characters in the Northside neighborhoods at all, so there's no reason to be an a$$hole imo. In fact, anybody that has gone up to me has not been that bothersome. Any time somebody has come up to me, they're just asking for money and I politely decline or help them.

I use a situational opener now. I comment on something specific about that person. Thing is, I actually say the same opener every time, since I can't improv well with an opener on every single girl that I see.

They think I'm saying something unique and tailored to them, so it lowers their guard and they don't see me as a guy that's going up to multiple women, even though that's what I'm doing. Most of the time they laugh and smile, and I go from there
 
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I moved to the Chicago area recently and noticed that it's very different than the South, where I moved from. People are incredibly antisocial here and act self-righteous. Neighborhoods are heavily segregated (i.e. Old Town-White people, Pilsen-Hispanic, Southside-Black)

If you go on the Chicago or CTA subreddits, you'll occasionally see women complain and describe their encounters with a "creep" that was just making basic conversation https://www.reddit.com/r/cta/s/faQOQiarNP

I've had numerous experiences where I get straight up ignored when attempting to make conversation. Times where I could be asking for directions, and girls rudely wave me off and say NO.

On a couple of occasions, I've smiled and said "hey, how you doing" to girls I was walking by on the sidewalk amoungst crowds, in broad daylight, and they looked at me and powerwalked in a different direction. Extreme reactions and kinda funny looking back

To make sure I wasn't crazy, I even tried asking a dude for directions in Wrigleyville on a day when it wasn't busy or cold and he just rudely brushed me off and kept walking.

Even the retail employees in Chicago are often rude and don't give a ****

This is by far the most rude and dismissive population I've had to live amoungst and I plan on moving to another state before the end of year. Many people do not have manners.

As you can imagine people RARELY initiate conversation. The only time someone initiated conversation with me here was some dude at Whole Foods. We exchanged numbers since he seemed pretty cool. Couple days later, he tries to reel me into an MLM scheme and I block him.

Any time I've spoken to friendly people that are willing to have a conversation, or co-workers, they agree that people here can be cold and distant.

What's hilarious is that reddit posts of girls complaining that they're not being approached occasionally pop up. Well, they're afraid of getting blasted on social media!

Moral of the story, don't move to Chicago. If you want the city life, consider moving into any other big city, unless you have a clique I guess, since this city is so damn cliquey. I'm sure New York is better. There are definitely friendly people here. I'd say it's probably 50/50, a mixed experience.

On the bright side, I've had normal, positive interactions with girls here that aren't ugly on the inside and are naturally polite/respectful.

I've also adjusted my approach, getting positive reactions most of the time now

Just sharing my experience.

Southern hospitality > Midwestern
I've been to Chicago a few times, and it's one of my favorite cities. you have variety with women and options; however, I never did daygame there. Here are some great places to visit

  • Gold Coast-Touristy areas, Smokeshows
  • Lincoln Park-IF you wanna meet chicks their 20s
  • West Loop
  • Magnificient Mile-Tourist trap, I wouldn't shop there but great place to see the vibe
  • Wicker Park
  • River North-Fine dining, hot spot and smoke shows, Boujee white women
  • Hyde Park-Slim, thick college chicks!
  • Navy Pier-Great place to get ice cream, scope out some girls

You can spend weeks just in one area, that's the great part about Chicago it's so huge. Most have great places for bars—restraunts etc to game. You also have a variety of women from all sorts of life to professions i.e. college girls, model chicks, hipster chicks, Basic girls etc. Chicago is the only place I have been too in the midwest where you will see Italian/Russian/Armeian women with small waist and big butts ala Kim Kardshian. You won't get that in Iowa or Wisconsin. The nightlife before covid was great too if you went not sure how it is now since I haven't been in awhile
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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