The Book Of Poon King - Do You Want To Read It? (Poll)

[doctor1996]

Went to a club with some friends stole these guys ' girl and this guy was about to punch me but my guys stepped and I still got her number advice guys! In. A little surnk!

 

[BeTheChange]

PK was probably the best poster on this forum at the time he posted. There aren't many others i would rate in that category. Maybe fastlife, Rollo and Pook.

But OP was more instrumental than most in getting PK banned. Let's not forget this.

 

[Red Legg]

Yeah, his outlook was too negative for my taste. Not to mention he was disrespectful and insulting to those who disagreed with him. That alone would disqualify him as an adviser on social dynamics, IMO. I never saw Pook or Rollo calling posters names.

No one and I mean no one can beat Pook's teachings on patience,you master that and you are a true DJ,I doubt anyone is a true DJ that calls everyone a faggot every 2 seconds..

 

[Tenacity]

Pook = fundamentals. Got there early enough to be relevant (2001 or whatever?)

Rollo = Tom Leykis, filtered through a sociology sort of frame.

Fastlife = good nightgame. Read 60 years of challenge. You'll be blown away.

Not putting anoyne down, a fair amount of my ideas were filtered from others.

That's the entire fvcking point. The golden age of the manosphere has passed. We should be seperating the wheat from the chaff through field testing, and then crystalizing it. Transcending what has been before. Benefiting from the wisdom of the womanizers.

Instead, what I read is people going around in circles It's extremely frustrating.

And I haven't forgotten sh*t

But I consider value, regardless. If Ten wants to write a book, then I'll join him on it. Ten has his virtues, but he's a white-knight. I take him in that regard.

I've considered writing it before too. Some of poon's ideas have changed the direction of my sets, and therefore my life. Difficult though to do.

Yes, I'm open to ideas. There's a couple of things I have to do in order to pull this off well:

- I want to make sure there's real demand for the Book of Poon King

- I want to make sure the Sosuave Moderating Team will support the project, help promote the project, and add the project to the DJ Bible like they did Pook's material

- I want to find a way to monetize the content. Yes, sorry, I'm a business guy and I don't do anything for free lol. I'm not looking to make a significant amount of money off of this, maybe just about a $1 - $5 per download or something? Because Poon King isn't a "trademarked" name or character, and none of his writing was "copyrighted".......I should be able to take his material, re-package it, and sell it. I would use Sosuave's website to place the product (Book Of Poon King) and all revenues can stream to my Create Space Amazon account.

 

[Tenacity]

PK was probably the best poster on this forum at the time he posted. There aren't many others i would rate in that category. Maybe fastlife, Rollo and Pook.

But OP was more instrumental than most in getting PK banned. Let's not forget this.

Just wanted to quickly address this, as his statement is untrue: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/about-poon-king-remove-ban.238976/

Poon King and I had major debates, and I questioned why he was so anonymous (like I question most posters on here). But I was actually the advocate for him not being banned.

I do not believe in banning ANYBODY on Sosuave that is/was an actual contributor to the website. It does not matter whether or not the person's material was well received or NOT, if they were an actual contributor then there's no reason for them to be banned just for contributing their material.

The Sosuave Moderating Team and Rules, are too vague, hard to understand, and confusing. In some cases, The Manosphere is the ONLY place where Men can come to receive real.....honest.....credible advice on the happenings of various things related to being a MAN in society today.

Da Dynamically, TicTac, Poon King, BigNeil, and even Deesade at the time of his temp ban, all had NO BUSINESS being banned whatsoever. Whatsoever. I repeat.....what-so-ever. You have people on this website that contribute absolutely nothing to further any Man's life development, nor provide any alternative viewpoint on important topics that MEN face today, yet, they are allowed to continue to remain on this website? I will never agree with that practice.

 

[Tenacity]

Listen, mate. I'm seriously busy right now.

I wouldn't monutiize sh1t. Im not a money motivated person, and you know this.

If you want to seriously do this through a good frame, then I'm on this (i'm the only guy he ever followed, for fvck sake ).

Mate literally, I'n down. The problem is that I'm actually working like a good provider at the moment, you'd be proud.

If you don't do it, I likely will one day....

I'm slammed too, I wouldn't be able to get this done until around April of next year....should it be greenlighted. Maybe I don't need to monetize it, but the Book of Poon King would be different than the Book of Pook though, so based on that level of "work"....hell, if I just raise enough money to buy myself and a date a couple DRINKS at a local Sports Bar, that would be cool.

Book of Pook was literally just a straight copy and paste of every single post or thread he made on Sosuave. That was it. Book of Poon King would be something a bit more engaging.

Also congrats on chasing that paper.....are you going to join The Sosuave Money Team next ?

 

[Tenacity]

Listen, mate. I am as atraight as a dice.

You want any support in this? I'm there for you. Pm me.

Let's touch base on this after Thanksgiving. I will shoot you over a PM most likely on Monday or Tuesday of next week.

 

[Tenacity]

No worries. I'm stupid busy right now too.

I plan on making my own threads about game after new-year, fully fledged with inarguable in-field happenijgs for the game. Noticed that is the only real way to progress the frame...

I considered this book myself.

I fancy myself as somewhat intelligent. I understand what a big undertaking it is.

Seriously open to helping contribute. But it should be free.

Basically, anyone's effort is in a way to structure the information into as pragmatic a structure as possible. Everything the guy said was pragmatic, but the problem is in forming a cohesive narrative. That would fall on you or me.

He had thousands of posts, it isn't easy, and he would monetize his own offering, if he wanted.

No pressure at all. Message me whenever you feel like - if you feel like. Happy to help.

I was a lurker here at first, and am really just happy to add to the discussion, and progress the frame at all.

I put it like this......there are dudes in The Manosphere with far less quality material than what we provide for FREE on this board, who are making money off of their content.

I honestly think anything we do with serious intentions behind it, should be monetized dude. Again, I don't care if I only generate $300 off of the entire project.

 

[guru1000]

I put it like this......there are dudes in The Manosphere with far less quality material than what we provide for FREE on this board, who are making money off of their content.

I honestly think anything we do with serious intentions behind it, should be monetized dude. Again, I don't care if I only generate $300 off of the entire project.

Monetizing is Allan's business. Consider your and other contributions charitable.

 

[Tenacity]

Monetizing is Allan's business. Consider your and other contributions charitable.

I think we need to update that. You have far too much high quality content on this board, being given a way for free, to a site owner that doesn't even interact with us. Furthermore, said site owner has left Moderators in charge who have in fact banned many of these great contributors who have made this site owner a GOOD chunk of change.

I propose the following:

- Make a section of this website a premium content website, where members can only access it for a certain monthly fee

- Make a crop of posters on this website "premium content posters" based on their history, other member votes, etc. These posters would receive a monetary amount per post they provide in the premium content section.

You guys might not believe this, but behind the anonymous profiles, there are REAL, quality, guys on this board. It's why I've said it's always been a shame that we don't have a more inclusive network, with quarterly meetings, trips, etc., rather than just this anonymous "shield" we keep operating behind.

 

[Tenacity]

Listen fella, I've paid for two things sunce being in this sphere.

One was a kindke version of Rollo's the rational male". The other was for a hardback version of Krauser's "daygame mastery".

Both were thoroughly fueld tested before the purchase.

Based on everything you've said about "snake-oil" salesmen, I'm a bit baffled about your position on this, tbh.

Well, we wouldn't promote everybody's material.......we would get behind material from "certain members". One of the criteria can be, as you listed, that the material has been tested and the individual contributor has been verified to be living the life he proposes/promotes.

It's why me and Poon King got into a heated debate. I never understood why he was so anonymous? He wouldn't post one pic, one plate pic, or anything. I never understood that. I think if he would have did that, it would have cemented his credibility even further.

Pook never posted one pic, one plate pic, nor one field report either. Pook was just a very good writer with a nice writing style. But many of Pook's stances made absolutely no sense. For example, Secret Of The Jerk.......Pook says the Jerk's secret is that he's not afraid of his testosterone? What the hell does that mean lol??

 

[guru1000]

Tenacity,

I would reject any monetary compensation for any input I give. The final level to which we strive is self-actualization. Maslow touched on this in his Maslow's hierarachy of needs.

Maslow explored a further dimension of needs, while criticizing his own vision on self-actualization.The self only finds its actualization in giving itself to some higher goal outside oneself, in altruism and spirituality, which is essentially the desire to reach infinite. "Transcendence refers to the very highest and most inclusive or holistic levels of human consciousness, behaving and relating, as ends rather than means, to oneself, to significant others, to human beings in general, to other species, to nature."

But for every Bill Gates who donates billions, Warren Buffet who will be donating 99% of his wealth, and others who give what they can free of expectations of reciprocity, there is an understanding that "real value" is actualized in the act of giving without receiving. All others acts are fleeting in transcendence. This will sound like a foreign language to most. I understand this.

 

[Tenacity]

Tenacity,

I would reject any monetary compensation for any input I give. The final level to which we strive is self-actualization. Maslow touched on this in his Maslow's hierarachy of needs.

Maslow explored a further dimension of needs, while criticizing his own vision on self-actualization.The self only finds its actualization in giving itself to some higher goal outside oneself, in altruism and spirituality, which is essentially the desire to reach infinite. "Transcendence refers to the very highest and most inclusive or holistic levels of human consciousness, behaving and relating, as ends rather than means, to oneself, to significant others, to human beings in general, to other species, to nature."

But for every Bill Gates who donates billions, Warren Buffet who will be donating 99% of his wealth, and others who give what they can free of expectations of reciprocity, there is an understanding that "real value" is actualized in the act of giving without receiving. This will sound like a foreign language to most. I understand this.

I understand but not for this though. Assisting the poor or starting your own non profit is where that should be managed (in my opinion). I think the Manosphere related content falls under "strategic consulting" and I think high quality contributors should be paid something for that contribution. Again, I don't care if it's just a $5 beer at the bar lol.

You agree?

 

[guru1000]

I understand but not for this though. Assisting the poor or starting your own non profit is where that should be managed (in my opinion). I think the Manosphere related content falls under "strategic consulting" and I think high quality contributors should be paid something for that contribution. Again, I don't care if it's just a $5 beer at the bar lol.

You agree?

As you know I'm a businessman. A fluid one at that. However, I don't give freebies at the office. This forum is the only arena where I can help men, free of financial motive.

Further, this forum is Allan's arena. His vision. His bread and butter. He also has legal rights to all material within. If you want to monetize content, perhaps you should PM him, @SoSuave.com.

 

[Urbanyst]

@Tenacity

If you REALLY wanted to make MONEY with this idea.. wouldn't it be easier to just take Poon King's material.. paraphrase the hell out of it, and sell it as your own material with no mention of Poon King?

That way you don't have to care about SoSuave, Allen or Poon King and you get 100% of the profits. Most game and red pill material is recycled anyway and doesn't really belong to anyone. You can't really copy-write ideas. You can only copy-write how they are presented. He has some good material and if he isn't smart enough to make MONEY off it.. doesn't mean you can't lol.