The Black Pill is Real, Get Ready to Improvise (Or Worse)

[jjflash]

I'm not one of "those guys." I'm not a blackpiller or a redpiller or a bluepiller.

All I can do is relate some of my own experiences and observe what's going on around with me with friends, acquaintances and people I hear and read about through the grapevine.

More and more and more signs are pointing south and the process has unfortunately greatly accelerated in the past 5 years and especially the past 2 years. Here is a brief summary of the strange sh-t becoming commonplace:

1. average to above average 20 something guys chasing desperately after 50+ year old women and still getting rejected for lays.

2. older gentlemen? bidding in the millions of dollars for the more attractive but still well worn 40+ and even 50+ broads who make themselves available.

3. 20's/30's guys who are physically fit on a successful career track getting zero traction whatsoever with women in their social circles, even the ugly ones.

4. Female 5's and below focusing on chads and even occasionally succeeding in hooking up sporadically.

5. guys regardless of appearance becoming addicted to video games or porn and never leaving their houses for months at a time.

I'm not saying no one's getting laid or dating or getting married or getting girlfriends. I'm saying that the yellow and red zones of guys who are either struggling or getting zero results despite being completely acceptable in appearance and doing the right things with work and school is growing at a surprisingly fast rate with no clear methods of reversing the trends.

 

[Barrister]

I'm not one of "those guys." I'm not a blackpiller or a redpiller or a bluepiller.

All I can do is relate some of my own experiences and observe what's going on around with me with friends, acquaintances and people I hear and read about through the grapevine.

More and more and more signs are pointing south and the process has unfortunately greatly accelerated in the past 5 years and especially the past 2 years. Here is a brief summary of the strange sh-t becoming commonplace:

1. average to above average 20 something guys chasing desperately after 50+ year old women and still getting rejected for lays.

2. older gentlemen? bidding in the millions of dollars for the more attractive but still well worn 40+ and even 50+ broads who make themselves available.

3. 20's/30's guys who are physically fit on a successful career track getting zero traction whatsoever with women in their social circles, even the ugly ones.

4. Female 5's and below focusing on chads and even occasionally succeeding in hooking up sporadically.

5. guys regardless of appearance becoming addicted to video games or porn and never leaving their houses for months at a time.

I'm not saying no one's getting laid or dating or getting married or getting girlfriends. I'm saying that the yellow and red zones of guys who are either struggling or getting zero results despite being completely acceptable in appearance and doing the right things with work and school is growing at a surprisingly fast rate with no clear methods of reversing the trends.

Despite posters such as yourself continuing to say that this is, in fact, reality, I have yet to actually see this. In fact, I would actually say the reverse is true. I know plenty of losers, guys with no job (literally) and who are not physically in shape, who actually are with very attractive women. These women could have a way higher SMV-man than they do if they chose to pursue one and make themselves available. On the flipside, I know exactly ZERO men who are good looking and relatively "successful" (a subjective term of course) that struggle to meet women where I am at to have sex with. And to be clear, I am not in NYC or some hotbed of women. I am in a small midwest city. I think it is a very outspoken minority of people that feel the way you do. We can agree that social media and dating apps have given a LOAD of options to lower SMV women. That is about all I can agree with based upon my own experience.

You mentioned social circles specifically. Keep in mind that gaming women in your social circle is tricky. Sure, snagging an LTR out of one is preferred for a lot of guys, but it is also very difficult if the relationships have been formed for some time. If we are strictly talking about banging women, social circles are generally not going to be where you get a pump and dump (for obvious reasons).

I don't buy that there is this giant growing number of guys who are very successful, good looking, and can't score with even the most average looking woman. I certainly have no issue nor do any of the guys I hang out with.

 

[jjflash]

Admittedly, I haven't spent much time in the midwest. I've made some business trips to Chicago but spent a lot of time with people flown in from all over the country and the world and we spent time together networking but didn't explore the city much.

I did go explore a bit walking on my own as much as time allowed and even enjoyed a few nights out (couldn't stay out late for business reasons).

There didn't seem to be many good looking women in Chicago. There were certainly some, but the city had a drabness and dullness without any spark or excitement. Even though it was a big city, it felt boring and uneventful being there.

I did visit some of the outlying areas around Chicago and it seemed like more of the same: nothing going on. There must be SOMETHING of significance going on in the midwest, but I just don't know what those things might be. Cows? Dairy? Cheese?

The midwestern women I saw were pretty overweight and not great looking. Even the younger college aged girls were pretty big.

 

[zekko]

I know exactly ZERO men who are good looking and relatively "successful" (a subjective term of course) that struggle to meet women where I am at to have sex with. And to be clear, I am not in NYC or some hotbed of women. I am in a small midwest city.

I'm in a relatively small midwest city also. There is a definite group of people who are in the hookup culture, but most people here couple off. I know some incel types, but you can see the reasons for it - either not attractive, grooming is off, low masculinity, awkward socially. I don't see good looking, successful guys being left out. I mean, if your idea of failure is not having a rotating harem of fresh HB9s at all times, yeah there's no guarantee of getting that.

3. 20's/30's guys who are physically fit on a successful career track getting zero traction whatsoever with women in their social circles, even the ugly ones.

Seriously, if these guys aren't getting laid, who is?

 

[HaleyBaron]

All I can do is relate some of my own experiences and observe what's going on around with me with friends, acquaintances and people I hear and read about through the grapevine.

So you hang out with negative people who sound like blackpillers and project their opinions cause that's all you can afford to be around. If you were around actually positive people, you would be saying entirely different things. And wouldn't make threads like "being fit won't get you sex."

 

[HaleyBaron]

Tech cities are blue pill central. Of course you're going to see shvt there.