The #1 Rule of Dating in 2015

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This rule will seem wrong at times. You will think "It can't be", but it is true. Here it is:

If you take a woman on a date and she does not send a thank-you text within 24 hours, the relationship is over forever.

It doesn't matter if she kissed you, blew you, or f*cked you. This rule is true.

Once upon a time, if the man did not call after the date, then it was over. Now, in the age of instant messaging, with women carrying a cell phone in their holster and in constant communication with their 1000 favorite people, it is unequivocally true that the woman should express gratitude in real time. Done correctly, after a date (hopefully a sex date) she will literally text you from your parking lot before starting her car. If a few days passes and there is no communication initiated from her, ask yourself this: how many men did she text since? Add 1 to the answer, and there is your rank in her life. Still not convinced? Think of those fat girls who you tried to avoid for MONTHS. Did they ever take the hint? Did they not come up with elaborate reasons in their own mind why you might not have replied?

I have had 3 meaningful relationships end this way in the past 3 years, by virtue of her lack of gratitute. Twice I contacted them but both times it was futile. In the third instance she initiated but it was to tell me she couldn't see me. I got 2 of them back but it was never the same, so don't even try. If you remember this rule it will simplify your dating life and it will let you be the one to dump her. Never take her back if your relationship ends due to her lack of appreciation (your handling it right will indeed maximize the odds of that being an option).

Ignore this at your peril.

I'm curious to hear your experiences in this situation.
 
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bigneil said:
This rule will seem wrong at times. You will think "It can't be", but it is true. Here it is:

If you take a woman on a date and she does not send a thank-you text within 24 hours, the relationship is over forever.

It doesn't matter if she kissed you, blew you, or f*cked you. This rule is true.

Once upon a time, if the man did not call after the date, then it was over. Now, in the age of instant messaging, with women carrying a cell phone in their holster and in constant communication with their 1000 favorite people, it is unequivocally true that the woman should express gratitude in real time. Done correctly, after a date (hopefully a sex date) she will literally text you from your parking lot before starting her car. If a few days passes and there is no communication initiated from her, ask yourself this: how many men did she text since? Add 1 to the answer, and there is your rank in her life. Still not convinced? Think of those fat girls who you tried to avoid for MONTHS. Did they ever take the hint? Did they not come up with elaborate reasons in their own mind why you might not have replied?

I have had 3 meaningful relationships end this way in the past 3 years, by virtue of her lack of gratitute. Twice I contacted them but both times it was futile. In the third instance she initiated but it was to tell me she couldn't see me. I got 2 of them back but it was never the same, so don't even try. If you remember this rule it will simplify your dating life and it will let you be the one to dump her. Never take her back if you relationship ends due to her lack of appreciation (your handling it right will indeed maximize the odds of that being an option).

Ignore this at your peril.

I'm curious to hear your experiences in this situation.
What if you started out the relationship and hence conversation as "I don't like texting, if you want to get to me, call"...
 

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Bigneil....i bow to ur insight.
Tis true that once a upon a time a mother woukd tell her daughter that hes not into you.

Sadly, girls held on to hope.

Sadly, dudes think hope pays bills and feeds stomachs.

We should be frendz lol jk
 

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had a first date with a cute pre-med college chick a few months ago who initially showed high interest. no text from her after the first date. I reached out after a day or so, she was receptive. but after that I never contacted her again. this is a good policy.
 

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This is a good point. I've asked too many girls like a pvssy on second dates when they sent no thank you text after the first.

Sadly a girl a few weeks ago sent me a thank you and told me how she enjoyed kissing me. When I arranged a date a couple of days later she said she's not interested. You just never know these days, girls often don't know themselves.
 

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LMFAO said:
Sadly a girl a few weeks ago sent me a thank you and told me how she enjoyed kissing me. When I arranged a date a couple of days later she said she's not interested. You just never know these days, girls often don't know themselves.
Wow, now that's what I call getting "mind fcuked"
 

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Hmmmm interesting...it does seem the high interest ones will text first soon after date...

Had one stay over last night and a lot of today......that was first date...I acted a little clingy when she left by sating I'd like to see you again because we both discussed earlier the possibility of this just being a one time thing because we had a lot of differences.... She said, ok just send me a message..

So not sure what to think...my gut tells me it could go either way depending on her mind levels...we vanfed about 5 times tthough and I can say without doubt I banged her pretty well though got a but lazy toward the end..
 

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First Dates
In the past, I've had first dates with no thank you texts that turned into some of my most loyal plates. One turned into a five-year relationship. Etiquette conditioning varies.

The girl usually initiates after the first date when she is highly interested. But this is a guideline, not an iron rule. Sometimes the rapport of the date is off or the girl feels YOU are the one not interested. Not ideal to have iron rules to interest gauge; put yourself out there and ask for the second date, regardless.

Relationships

A plate/gf/wife without gratitude and appreciation for your time is indeed a problem. But once your dating ideas become repetitive and she's "conditioned" to such treatment, don't expect gratitude texts. Mix up with different dating ideas to prompt greater appreciation. Quite frankly, I don't care about a plate's appreciation because the subject matter is not her, it is ME, and whether I'm still interested to maintain the relation. Once my interest is gone, I'm gone, so she better bring her best behavior and "A" game every date.
 

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Espi said:
Having met a few hundred women on drinkdates over the past 10 years, I will say from experience that this "rule" is 99.9999% true.

For me, that time in BETWEEN the first and second dates is what ultimately determines my success with women.

Over the past several years, I have made it a point:

1. to NEVER initiate contact after the first drinkdate.
2. to EXPECT a thank-you text.

I personally find myself never violating the first point, and if they don't bother thanking me or saying how nice it was to meet me, I automatically terminate them from my booty-call list, because they either aren't interested, or they're trying to control the frame.

For whatever reason...a woman who doesn't initiate texting me within 24 hours after the date is best avoided. Go ghost on 'em.
I think it all boils down to common courtesy. The ones who I'd go on drink dates with who wouldn't thank me tended to be spoiled, selfish, etc. The ones that would thank me seemed to be more kind, giving, and just more pleasant overall.
 

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stevo said:
Wow, now that's what I call getting "mind fcuked"
It happens more that one would think of ... I just take it for what it is and move on
 
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Those are all good points, I've been maybe on 100 or so dates, but probably no where near your level of experience.

The last thing they say/last action on the date is worth listening out for, if only to use for future reference (that said you're right most of the time I know far earlier where this is heading, but on a few occasions I genuinely thought it was going no where and sealed it with a passionate kiss out of no where and they wanted to see me again):

1. "Take care, good luck with your job" - you won't hear from her again. Anything with good luck and you might as well delete her number.
2. "See you" and she's being hesitant - you might as well delete her number.
3. She's walking in a different direction or says she needs to go this way (the complete opposite to where you're going, sometimes she may even ask you how you're getting back to make sure she goes another way) or stops somewhere because she needs to top up her train ticket (she wants you to go away) - you might as well delete her number.
4. "Perhaps I'll see you again" with a playful smile - half a chance.
5. You kiss her but at the end of the date and she has to go back. Depending on a number of factors you may still never see her again, particularly with online girls who you have little in common with and anyway feel little emotional spike from kissing.
6. "It was good to see you" - most likely won't see her again.

Most of the stuff that comes out of their mouths is complete nonsense anyway, but after a while you get a compass on their lying as it's typically all skewed in the same way.
 

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Espi said:
NOTABLE EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE is when they thank me in the parking lot when saying goodbye. "Thank you for the drinks. We should do it again sometime." When they say this to me, I won't wait for them to text me. I'll wait a little while then invite them to meet me again.

Also another notable exception: when we're saying goodbyes after the date and ssys, "Call me," I generally will...but I'll wait a few days.
Recently, had one take me back to her car where we made out a while. I went for her pvssy through her jeans and that may have been bad, but I figured she initiated the deep tongue (lesboish kissing), so why not?

She never texted me after that and we went our separate ways. She'd kept talking about her roommate having a boyfriend (so she wanted one to say she had one, I suppose). She wasn't really my type, just too idk "Public" "school," though she was in finance. She was as tall as me, a plus, but too big-boned, so I would have used her anyway, so she chose right by not texting me anymore.
 

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I think it's definitely a generally good rule of mind. But not always.

I've had 10 dates this past month. All the dates were pretty 'good' in my mind. Cute girl, playful teasing, laughing, good meal.

All of them, the girl texted me back when she got home that very night. Saying something along the lines of "I had such a lovely time tonight, thanks! I got home safe"

With 1 of them, girl came back to my place for a short time, we watched a movie, made out, then left, and still texted me that night when she got home.

With another, I walked her to her car. Along the way, I held her hand and while chatting and laughing, pulled her close and moved in to kiss her. We kissed for a minute. And then kissed some more when we got to her car.

All dates ended with us kissing for a minute or more. Or ... more.

And in all dates, after receiving her "got home safe" text, I'd text the next day saying "Hey, XXXX, glad you had a great time last night. So did I. Let's do it again.

And the response. Haha. 6 of those dates responded w: "I had such a great time last night. But I'm not seeing a connection. Good luck"

Sometimes, you just never know.
 

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If you wish to gauge interest level, post-date is obscure but during the date, look for these telltale signs:

  • Is she overly-eager or enthusiastic?
  • Are her pupils dilated?
  • Sitting side-by-side, sit straight; to what direction does her torso and legs point/lean towards?
  • Does she play with her hair?
  • Is she smiling ear-to-ear?
  • Is she nervous?
  • Is she the one to always break the silence?
  • Does she defer to everything you say?
  • Does she make an effort to stay close to you while talking/sitting?
  • Does she initiate touching/kino?
  • Does her demeanor mirror a nodding dog?

You can gauge with 95% accuracy during the date. Pay attention to these cues on your next date. If you're still not sure (as there may be exceptions), post-date, ask for the second date. This is the only way to know with 100% accuracy.
 

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I think that the rule is rock-solid for first dates. For subsequent dates, it still applies somewhat, but not as strongly.
 

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guru1000 said:
First Dates
In the past, I've had first dates with no thank you texts that turned into some of my most loyal plates. One turned into a five-year relationship. Etiquette conditioning varies.

The girl usually initiates after the first date when she is highly interested. But this is a guideline, not an iron rule. Sometimes the rapport of the date is off or the girl feels YOU are the one not interested. Not ideal to have iron rules to interest gauge; put yourself out there and ask for the second date, regardless.

Relationships

A plate/gf/wife without gratitude and appreciation for your time is indeed a problem. But once your dating ideas become repetitive and she's "conditioned" to such treatment, don't expect gratitude texts. Mix up with different dating ideas to prompt greater appreciation. Quite frankly, I don't care about a plate's appreciation because the subject matter is not her, it is ME, and whether I'm still interested to maintain the relation. Once my interest is gone, I'm gone, so she better bring her best behavior and "A" game every date.
I agree. The only exception to every rule is there's an exception to every rule.
 

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LMFAO said:
Those are all good points, I've been maybe on 100 or so dates, but probably no where near your level of experience.

The last thing they say/last action on the date is worth listening out for, if only to use for future reference (that said you're right most of the time I know far earlier where this is heading, but on a few occasions I genuinely thought it was going no where and sealed it with a passionate kiss out of no where and they wanted to see me again):

1. "Take care, good luck with your job" - you won't hear from her again. Anything with good luck and you might as well delete her number.
2. "See you" and she's being hesitant - you might as well delete her number.
3. She's walking in a different direction or says she needs to go this way (the complete opposite to where you're going, sometimes she may even ask you how you're getting back to make sure she goes another way) or stops somewhere because she needs to top up her train ticket (she wants you to go away) - you might as well delete her number.
4. "Perhaps I'll see you again" with a playful smile - half a chance.
5. You kiss her but at the end of the date and she has to go back. Depending on a number of factors you may still never see her again, particularly with online girls who you have little in common with and anyway feel little emotional spike from kissing.
6. "It was good to see you" - most likely won't see her again.
7. B-Bye. She feels no attraction for you and is letting you know it.
 

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LMFAO said:
Those are all good points, I've been maybe on 100 or so dates, but probably no where near your level of experience.

The last thing they say/last action on the date is worth listening out for, if only to use for future reference (that said you're right most of the time I know far earlier where this is heading, but on a few occasions I genuinely thought it was going no where and sealed it with a passionate kiss out of no where and they wanted to see me again):

1. "Take care, good luck with your job" - you won't hear from her again. Anything with good luck and you might as well delete her number.
2. "See you" and she's being hesitant - you might as well delete her number.
3. She's walking in a different direction or says she needs to go this way (the complete opposite to where you're going, sometimes she may even ask you how you're getting back to make sure she goes another way) or stops somewhere because she needs to top up her train ticket (she wants you to go away) - you might as well delete her number.
4. "Perhaps I'll see you again" with a playful smile - half a chance.
5. You kiss her but at the end of the date and she has to go back. Depending on a number of factors you may still never see her again, particularly with online girls who you have little in common with and anyway feel little emotional spike from kissing.
6. "It was good to see you" - most likely won't see her again.

Most of the stuff that comes out of their mouths is complete nonsense anyway, but after a while you get a compass on their lying as it's typically all skewed in the same way.

Bigneil: 7. B-Bye. She feels no attraction for you and is letting you know it.
8: "It was nice to meet you" Nice is never good. I had a date recently where at the end of date, just after kissing, she said this. Immediately I was like...meet me? As in past tense...meet? Not it was nice...meeting you..Present tense. Not I'm glad we met tonight, because you're the future. Meet...past tense. The date is still going on and she's already in past tense mode. Not a good sign.
 

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This is exactly why modern women are the way they are. Men think they HAVE TO validate and cling to these chicks. Everyone forgot about the old DJ principle of indifference and keeping a low profile.

This s**t of HAVING TO text is bulls**t. Texting is pretty damn impersonal to begin with, and with a chick who has 1000 "friends" on her phone, she's not going to be paying attention to who she's talking to. Fvck, modern women are some of the worst fvcking listeners I've ever seen, a hyper 5 year old pays more attention than they do. My point is you do that texting sh*t, you become another orbiter to her.

How about this? You see a chick who's like this, walk the fvck away, and don't waste time dating them. Have some fvcking standards, and realize these types don't love anyone. STOP acting like you've got to adapt to this sh*t, and think every woman these days is like this. They aren't all shallow attention wh0res. Look for a woman who isn't so insecure she has to have 1000+"friends" on her phone and social media to project she's living this perfect life that she likely isn't.
 

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Like what guru said, 100% confirmation of interest level is when she accepts your 2nd date.

Honestly, there's no need for this rule as long as you're willing to walk away when women don't meet your standards. Keep the game simple bros.
 
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