The 1-10 Scale

[Colossus]

This is mostly for fun. Of course the number scale is subjective, but I feel there are universal classifying criteria that most men can agree upon despite their subjective leanings. Feel free to chime in.


10. Physical perfection. Cannot be improved upon in any way, shape, or form. Head to toe immaculate beauty. More or less mythical, like the unicorn, although some rare women may crest into this zenith at some brief period in their lives.

9. Exceptionally attractive. Hotter than 98% of all females on earth. Most all men would agree she is stunning. She will be the hottest girl out of all of your friend's gfs, wives, etc. Probably the most beautiful girl any of us will get. Tremendous social cred.

8. Very attractive. In the upper echelons of most social circles. A very hot gf, good arm candy and plenty of props from the guys, social proof from other girls. Raises your perceived value almost always. Not quite stunning, but attractive in any setting.

7. Your average cute girl. Cute enough to have in public with no qualms. Cleans up well. May look a bit rough in certain lights or without any tending, but overall men agree she is attractive. Generally make the best gfs.

6. Cute, to some. Not so cute to others. Generally they have one or two really sexy features, but the rest is pretty plain and average. Social cred is neutral here for a good looking guy. You wont lose much, but you wont gain any either.

5. Utterly average. Not ugly, but not attractive either. You really cant decide. Maybe obese, trashy, or just flaccidly plain. One thing is for sure, she doesn't incite a boner. Some men may venture into the 5's in times of severe drought or drunkenness, but usually they are unappealing. A known foray with a 5 will diminish your perceived value if you are an attractive guy.

4-1. This is no man's land. I needn't describe each number in detail, because it's irrelevant. No one goes here except the crazy, morbidly drunk, or dregs. In other words, not a DJ. Not ever. Celibacy is preferable.




I know a lot of guys say their gf is an 8 or 9, but statistically this is impossible. Like most things in nature the HB scale follows a Gaussian (bell curve) distribution. Chances are your wife or gf is a 6 or 7. And that's totally fine, but for accuracy's sake let's not be haphazard with the science here.

I'll also add that most girls have a range, i.e. a 6.5-7.5, depending on her clothes, makeup, hair, setting, and overall presentation. I take an average though. So a 6.5-7.5 is a 7, in my book.

 

[( . )( . )]

Mine goes like this:

10.100% perfection. True to life angels and the like. Unattainable unless fasting in a desert for 10 days.

9. 90% perfection. I've seen maybe 2 in my entire life. As rare as rocking horse sh!t.

8. 80% perfection. What most men rate as 9 or "10". Reserved for guys with yachts.

7. 70% perfection. What all these PUA's, DJ's and sh!t are striving to get. Few do.

6. 60% perfection. What all these PUA's and DJ's get if they have halfway decent game.

5. What Joe Bozo off the street is happy to bring to his friends BBQ without the spike of shame digging in.

4-1. Everything else.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with all this.

This is mostly for fun. Of course the number scale is subjective, but I feel there are universal classifying criteria that most men can agree upon despite their subjective leanings. Feel free to chime in.


10. Physical perfection. Cannot be improved upon in any way, shape, or form. Head to toe immaculate beauty. More or less mythical, like the unicorn, although some rare women may crest into this zenith at some brief period in their lives.

9. Exceptionally attractive. Hotter than 98% of all females on earth. Most all men would agree she is stunning. She will be the hottest girl out of all of your friend's gfs, wives, etc. Probably the most beautiful girl any of us will get. Tremendous social cred.

8. Very attractive. In the upper echelons of most social circles. A very hot gf, good arm candy and plenty of props from the guys, social proof from other girls. Raises your perceived value almost always. Not quite stunning, but attractive in any setting.

7. Your average cute girl. Cute enough to have in public with no qualms. Cleans up well. May look a bit rough in certain lights or without any tending, but overall men agree she is attractive. Generally make the best gfs.

6. Cute, to some. Not so cute to others. Generally they have one or two really sexy features, but the rest is pretty plain and average. Social cred is neutral here for a good looking guy. You wont lose much, but you wont gain any either.

5. Utterly average. Not ugly, but not attractive either. You really cant decide. Maybe obese, trashy, or just flaccidly plain. One thing is for sure, she doesn't incite a boner. Some men may venture into the 5's in times of severe drought or drunkenness, but usually they are unappealing. A known foray with a 5 will diminish your perceived value if you are an attractive guy.

4-1. This is no man's land. I needn't describe each number in detail, because it's irrelevant. No one goes here except the crazy, morbidly drunk, or dregs. In other words, not a DJ. Not ever. Celibacy is preferable.




I know a lot of guys say their gf is an 8 or 9, but statistically this is impossible. Like most things in nature the HB scale follows a Gaussian (bell curve) distribution. Chances are your wife or gf is a 6 or 7. And that's totally fine, but for accuracy's sake let's not be haphazard with the science here.

I'll also add that most girls have a range, i.e. a 6.5-7.5, depending on her clothes, makeup, hair, setting, and overall presentation. I take an average though. So a 6.5-7.5 is a 7, in my book.

 

[020204]

Various factors can influence this scale, for example many 5s or 6s have the ability to become 8s or 9s, things like makeup, hair extensions, spraytans can easily do this. Nowdays as the beauty industry is becoming more sophisticated there are many other products being added which can cause such difference. It would also be interesting to compare this ranking with women from the 90s, and compare what percentage were 6s, I would say there were more 6s and 7s in the 90s than today. Today the higher quality women have better access to beauty products and can make themselves look hotter, however the number of fatties is much higher today.

 

[zekko]

Mine goes like this:

10.100% perfection. True to life angels and the like. Unattainable unless fasting in a desert for 10 days.

9. 90% perfection. I've seen maybe 2 in my entire life. As rare as rocking horse sh!t.

8. 80% perfection. What most men rate as 9 or "10". Reserved for guys with yachts.

7. 70% perfection. What all these PUA's, DJ's and sh!t are striving to get. Few do.

6. 60% perfection. What all these PUA's and DJ's get if they have halfway decent game.

5. What Joe Bozo off the street is happy to bring to his friends BBQ without the spike of shame digging in.

4-1. Everything else.

That's pretty good, actually. Original, with some good ideas in it. I agree with you on the rarity of 9s, for instance. I've seen damn few women I would rate in that class, and I don't believe in 10s at all.

 

[GotED?]

I like to remind folks that this is PURELY a physical scaling.

I been with 7 & 8's that after a while, their sh!t self-entitled personality or emotional issues drives their hot looks to nothing.

You get real tired of someone's good looks if they have nothing else worthwhile. The longer you are with someone, the lesser the looks would drive the attraction.

A woman who is a 6 or 7 with a great personality and non-self-entitled is severely 'hot' in my case for LTR. This is only for relationship cases, all else doesn't apply.

Exodus

 

[Down Low]

My spreadsheet model agrees that HB 8.0 to 9.9 is 2.21% of all women. However, it's not a bell curve. Women spend most of their lives with little or no sex appeal.

Also, only 11.64% of women should be HB 5.0 or higher. Colossus, you're just plain wrong to suggest that 8 out of 9 women are too hideous to fvck.

 

[synergy1]

This is like comparing how long a mile is when everyone brings their own rulers. All I know is that I wouldn't design a spaceship if 100 engineers used their own measurement system. The women ranking system is exactly the same. People who claim he's banging a 7 is almost never a 7 in other peoples book - certainly not mine based on what I have seen posted so far. The universally hot ones in 9 or 10 land are so rare , but even the few people who claim that X chick is a 9 or a 10 really isn't.

The most I have to offer about my scale is the following: a 5 is an average good looking regular women assuming she isn't over weight. Average is just that - average. Its what most women look like. Any chick with weight on her isn't on the scale, or gets relegated to a 1. In my book, an 8 would be able to be a model, and a 7 is a smokeshow. Its a tough system. My last girlfriend was maybe a 5 or a 6 ( probably closer to a 5, but I added some due to personality!).

 

[Mike32ct]

I think 8s are the most attractive aesthetically.

The are hot, but still have some adorable girl next door left in them to seem more "real."

Strangely, 9s and 10s are too stereotypically hot such that it almost seems too much. Sort of like a tryhard porn star who overdoes the fake moans lol.

 

[Darth]

Great scale.

The only example of a 10 I can think of right now is Kate Upton.

 

[The Duke]

Luckily I live in a major area known for attractive women. Its also ranked 2nd in the nation for the number of plastic surgeons!

Here's my scale:

10- Does not exist in real life, only on the pages of magazines.

9-Highly attractive. Model Quality looks. Most likely she will have modeled at some point in her life. Top 5pct of female population. These are girls that are capable of being professional runway models. Insecurity issues are very common. Looking good is their job.

8-Very attractive. A lower level model. Most of these girls are good enough to be promotional models. All the guys and girls notice her. Have insecurity issues.

7-Cute. Body is pretty good. Nothing to be ashamed about. I won't be with one less than a 7. Pretty secure.

6-This is the common girl. They are a found about anywhere. Roughly 50pct of the female population falls into this category.

5- Blah

4- Uggs

3- Fugly

2- Hideous

1-Disgusting

One thing you will notice about even the hottest girls is they don't all look super hot 24-7. They are all using lots of make up, fake boobs, fake hair, botox, etc and know how to dress. Pamela Anderson is a great example I've seen shots of her where she looked like a 7 and other shots where she looked like a 10.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with this. The universally accepted perfect tens can be...too perfect or something. Not saying I'd turn one down. No sir. But I like the little charm of (perceived) innocence/cuteness in the 7s/8s. But who knows? Maybe it's just reinforced because that's more what I'm used to.

Agreed.

 

[Colossus]

My spreadsheet model agrees that HB 8.0 to 9.9 is 2.21% of all women. However, it's not a bell curvsex appeal.

Also, only 11.64% of women should be HB 5.0 or higher. Colossus, you're just plain wrong to suggest that 8 out of 9 women are too hideous to fvck.

Hmm, interesting stats, but I'm not sure I agree. That may be true if you take into account women of all ages, but the HB scale does not. Admittedly, I didn't do any actual math on these ratings, this is just my opinion. I guess if we were really going to get technical we'd have to take into account age. IMHO once a woman passes 40 she is off the HB scale, lol. Not to say they aren't attractive anymore, just out of their prime.

 

[visions]

Mine goes like this:

10.100% perfection. True to life angels and the like. Unattainable unless fasting in a desert for 10 days.

9. 90% perfection. I've seen maybe 2 in my entire life. As rare as rocking horse sh!t.

8. 80% perfection. What most men rate as 9 or "10". Reserved for guys with yachts.

7. 70% perfection. What all these PUA's, DJ's and sh!t are striving to get. Few do.

6. 60% perfection. What all these PUA's and DJ's get if they have halfway decent game.

5. What Joe Bozo off the street is happy to bring to his friends BBQ without the spike of shame digging in.

4-1. Everything else.

i have a scale similar to this.

mine would be:

10- more attractive than 100% of women

9-more attractive than 90% of women

8-more attractive than 80% of women

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[sageproduct]

1700s HB Rating Scale

10 - THE PERFECT WOMAN. She stands tall, taller than you, with a very muscular frame. This makes her PERFECT for doing field work with you. She has (or can) given birth to at LEAST eight children, and you can see her hips are obviously very pronounced as to show fertility. Of course, her eyebrows are shaven and replaced with press-on mouse-skin brows.

9 - While not as plump as the 10, she still has all those other incredibly sexy features, including fine ankles that make your musket shoot off as soon as you see them.

8 - This woman would be perfect if she could afford to have her eyebrows shaved off.

7 - She may not be quite as muscular or plump as you like, but still has a decent face.

6 - The common peasant girl. She would be smoking HOT if only she could afford to eat more and plump up her skinny (ugh, skinny, how disgusting!!!) body and face.

5 - She's ok if you stuff a bunch of goose feathers in her tight dress to give her the illusion of that juicy, plump look that we cultured, wealthy men all enjoy!!!

1-4 - So thin that their thighs don't even touch each other. How simply revolting! It may take years of roast turkey to fatten up these twigs!

 

[Nutz]

The only difference between a 9 and 10 is presentation. 10s are just better at (or take more time) getting ready before they leave the house. If you saw them when they woke up in the morning you couldn't tell the difference.

 

[zekko]

The only difference between a 9 and 10 is presentation. 10s are just better at (or take more time) getting ready before they leave the house. If you saw them when they woke up in the morning you couldn't tell the difference.

I think Mystery said that a 10 is just a 9 with great makeup. Or something like that. Again, I don't believe in 10s. I find the idea of a perfect woman to be just ridiculous.

 

[Bokanovsky]

double post

 

[Bokanovsky]

The 1-10 cale is completely useless. There is really no point in debating the differences between an 8 and a 9 or a 9 and a 10 (some of which boil down to subjective criteria anyway).

For the vast majority of guys, the 1-4 scale makes a lot more sense:

4: A girl that you find extremely hot. Basically, she is your dream girl (physically) and is the type that you could easily develop onetis for. Most guys rarely if ever get to date/have sex with such a woman.

3: A girl that you find attractive and would bang or date without hesitation. You feel good having this woman on your arm, even though you know that there are hotter women out there.

2: A girl you might consider banging when intoxicated or going through a dry spell. You couldn't date her without feeling somewhat ashamed of yourself and knowing that you could do better.

1: Untouchable

 

[Down Low]

What is the distribution of looks? It's very high-schooly to jump up with the answer "normal distribution." Why? Because we're not dealing with a small, fairly uniform group of mid-teens girls.

Worse still, the college scene, the club scene, where chatter about rating is more likely to be heard, is full of men who are too young for marriage, with similar-aged women -- that is, women who are too old for marriage. Within that environment, few men are going to arrive at the conclusion that 14-year-old girls are the best bride material. This most-important point never gets noticed while they make a fuss over silliness about dragon tattoos or brand of purse, as if they were Chinamen rattling on about the size of hands and feet.

On the one hand, looks deteriorate with age. Women hit their peak about two to four years after menarche, and then decline at a consistent rate. Constant decline = linear.

On the other hand, for any one particular age, looks will be distributed normally. What does this do to our line of looks vs. age? Turns it into a scatter diagram without having any effect on the central tendency. (Except that the variation also decreases with age: there's hardly any difference between the most-beautiful 99-year-old and the most-ugly.)

So, when we start summing up total numbers of HB 7s, HB6s, and so on, we find a simple second-order curve that is the definite integral of the line of looks declining with age.

Just to make it easy sleazy, do what I did, and use a simple multiple such as 3/2 to describe the greater numbers of HB (X-1) compared to HB (X).

That's why I say that only 1 out of 9 women are HB 5 or better. Anything above HB 5 and, odds are, you're fooling yourself by rating her by dragon tattoos and brand of purse.