Terrell Owens Sucks.

[A-Unit]

In fantasy leagues, I didn't get a chance to draft him.

In real life, I hear about his bytching, whining and complaining.

For the Eagles fan's, I feel bad. You don't need him to win. Washington does have a great D, Donovan's hurt, and Why OH Why, did you resign the NON-RB Westbrook to a 5-year deal??? Did you do it because you're not resigning TO and you need a playmaker?? Did you do it because he was cheap?? (No team would take a guy like that When Edge and S.A. will be available next year or they could take a true blue RB in the draft for the same money). I want answers on that.

Bottom line, he's a cancer. That's it. I don't care if he has talent, he uses NONE of it on his team, which is where he gets paid, for being self-less. I don't care if he played in the S.B with injured ankles and a screw down there. What good is it now?

On a ship, Mutiny is a crime punishable by death, and that's what T.O. does every week he uses the news to defile and defame his teammates, Mutiny. I remember when he was NEARLY traded to BALTIMORE and then he balked b/c he had a good relationship with Donovan. It was thought there'd be no problems; these are the worst one's to date.

He talks about getting paid to support his family; bull-crap. All guys want to get paid, and I realize big business wants the most revenue for the least expenses paid. BUT...the drama he unloads is NOT worth it, and with super Agent Drew Rosenhaus, it's not worth even considering, for any amount of money. In any event, T.O. dropped his market value.

It's no different than a HOT CHICK with baggage...you know you don't want to put the effort in if she's a bytch or a tease, or a headcase. If she's that much work, you want it to be worth your time, and most times, the return on investment nears zero at some point. It's at that point for the Eagles. Throw him to the market, draft or trade for a better, team-playing WR, or convert Westbrook to that.

Unfortunately, Eagles fan's, your time in the limelight has subsided and it's on the down trend now. You'll be a top team, but without a #1 wr to draw coverage and RB that can drill down the clock, you're left with a good d, mediorce wr's, and wr/rb that can do both, but not enough of either.

T.O. must go, and I hope every team boycotts his services. The places I could see him at are...

-Minn - Daunte needs a #1 back.
-ATL - Vick would be sick if he had a true check down WR like T.O.
-MIA - Chambers is good, but he'd be devastating if he had T.O., and MIA could trade Booker + Boston to PHI.
-TENN - Drew Bennett is NOT a #1 and no WR will be effective in strong coverage without a good WR to draw it.
-DEN - Rod Smith is old. Lelie hasn't stepped up.


THose are immediate thoughts. T.O. is just a disgrace to the past history of the game, to even his own cause on getting paid, and his own current team. I hope PHI announces they're deactivating him for the season. I'd pay him off and leave him. Besides, T.O. has talent, but for the past 3-5 years, he's been out 2-5 games with ankle injuries or deactivation, suspension, or even just taking himself out of the game because he feels like it. He's no longer tops. The new tops are...

-Chad Johnson. Has fun. Respects the game. Idolizes Jerry Rice (fantastic role model, he has fun taunting Cb's, but when he loses, he's ok with it).
-Steve Smith. NOT a 1 year wonder.
-Santana Moss. He was always good, just need the right system. His speed was too great for Pennington to hit.
-Larry Fitzgerald. Undeniably great talent. A star for years to come and known as an all around great guy.
-Torry Holt. Injured, yes, but has the most receptions/year going. Always smiling and STl loves to throw it.
-Hines Ward. Always smiling. Puts up numbers year after year. plays hurt. Never out. NEver injured (or plays injured). Didn't hold out.
-Randy Moss (but he's sliding). Too much of a dope. His talent is phenomenal, but like TO, he's got injuries that roll forward. And while his talent is high, the injuries hold him back from being #1 in the league.


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[il_duce]

I agree. T.O. is just a total disgrace to the game. He thinks everything revolves around him in a TEAM sport. I don't think the Eagles should let him play for the rest of the season.

 

[Skel]

I agree with you on the whole TO thing. He is losing millions of dollars by opening his mouth.

But I disagree about the RB. Westbrook is a quality RB and its not his fault that Phily has no running game its the coaches fault.

 

[A-Unit]

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They don't have a running game b/c westbrook is not a running back in the true sense. He cannot pound the tackles or take a beating. Yes, he's fantastic at running from the back field, taking dump passes and receiving, but he reminds of Charlie Garner, or Pittman.

A running in and of itself enables the QB to pound the tackles, tire them down, and slow the blitz. His 5'8" size while muscular, is not enough to handle it. IMO. To me, Reid doesn't call the plays because he knows Westbrook doesn't run more than 20 times a game (more like 18 or less). His career year, last year, was 1500+yards from scrimmage, evenly split. Most rb's have 300+ carries, or like duce before in PHI, at least 225+.

A RB also helps with ball control and slowing the clock. You're not doing that if you're dumping passes out of the backfield. McNabb is throwing near 50 times because of this. Granted they have Lamar Gordon to pound it in, but he's incomplete as a back. They have Ryan Moats, who was a phenomenal back in college (check his recruiting vidoe), but odds are, they wouldn't give Westbrook $25 million not to play him every game.

Running back plattoons are becoming EN VOGUE, and possibly, PHI will use Moats now and diminish TO's role. They COULD deactivate him, use Lewis and they're rookie Reggie Brown, throw moats in the mix as the RB, and use Westbrook for everything else. What the heck do I know though? This is mere observation. It is working miami, in kc, in carolina, in tb, and to some extent MINN. It hasn't been a good idea to do that before, but they're showing if you have 2 super effective backs, instead of 1 mediocre one, you INSURE your running game, add a dynamic element to it, keep defenses honest and open the passing game. Having 1 outstanding back puts all the eggs in one basket, which isn't bad, and some backs like to be used only (gives them the best way but ends up offering a shorter lifespan).

I saw his rushing stats, his yards per carry is high, but I'd like to see if he kept that pace if he got 300 carries, which I doubt he could do. It's the same debate of, David Ortiz versus Alex Rodriguez as MVP. David might have higher offensive stats or near the same, but not playing in the field DOES give you a bit of an advantage in terms of healthy, stamina and strength. While A-Rod practices OFF and DEF, Ortiz only has to practice Batting. He WAS in the field, but obviously took himself out for various reasons. This from a Sox fan, too.



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[backbreaker]

honestly, I agree that he can go about what he says in a different way, but he speaks the truth, rather you like it or not.

TO's Gripe is this... You paid me X Amount, assuming I was going provide X Amount of productivty... If I would have greatly dispointed you and gave you a lower amount of productivy, you would have no qualms whatsoever by cutting me, and it would be a "smart business move"..

but if I greatly over produce X... why can't I get MORE money?

A very, ,very legitmate arguement...

I don't agree that he is going about it the right way (Hines Ward did it the right way) but he's right.

Also what he said about Donovan is true as well... you may not LIKE It, it may not be politicaly correct, but he's right.

I am a person, where I wouldn't mind at all having a player like him on my team... Why should he have to apologize to McNabb? All he did was hold him accountable... I mean, he is getting the money ,he is the QB and the "leader" of that team... so the leader of the team should be held accountable... you can't pick and choose...

I never did like Mcnabb as a QB.. hes't not very accurate for an NFL QB.. isn't the best at reading coverages... and personally I don't understand how you can be a muliti millionare and have the ugliest braids on the face of the planet... when I was 17, making $250 a week at best buy my braids looked WAY better than his

They also do need a running game, in the worst way... they seem to forget that Roger Craig was a big cog in the West Coast Offense

 

[A-Unit]

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I'm not a philly fan so I don't know the organization or their philosophies. I have spoken with Philly fans who aprised me of the front offices methodology. Philly is very tight on what they do.

If T.O wants a bigger contract or pay, this is why you get a nice contract AND incentive/performance bonuses. He has every right to bytch and moan and complain, but not in the news.

No man is bigger than one team. No man. He can do whatever he chooses to do, just like the team can do whatever THEY choose to do. However, the media is useful for the captain, or owner, or coach, not for voicing gripes. That creates discension among the ranks.


Say I perform OVER and ABOVE the call of duty. I sell TWICE as much as widget B as I was contracted to sell. In the coming year, I deserve a contract increase, or another company could take a flier on me and see if a I perfrom as I well as I did. If my company thought I had any promise, they would offer a bonus if I did "better than expected."

They did this for Richard Seymour. The patriots have been picked apart, esp. coaching-wise, as a result of the superbowls, however, you will see that the separate parts ARE not LEADING their new teams extraordinarily.

Ted Washington is in OAK, have we heard BOO from him?

Ty Law is in New York. Not much there either.

Damien Woody is in Detroit. He's pissed, paid more, but losing week after week.

Antowain Smith is in new orleans DOING ok, but no superbowl will be in his sites, and he may end up in Texas anyways.

David Patten is in WAS, and he's doing LESS than what he did on that PATS.

Lawyer Milloy is in BUFFALO and injured for this season. His team is REBUILDING.

So yes, take your money and run, but if you play football for the love it, you might accept a LOWER than market rate in football TO win 1 superbowl. The eagles HAD (past tense) that chance. I've heard the gripes about Donovan, even Rush Limbaugh said it, too. Donovan is good, and having a better year than CPEP, so if Donovan is bad, then CPEP is worse and was only good b/c of Moss.

As far as Seymour, he was griping, but not using the Boston media for it. Not to TO's extent. What did the Kraft family do? Paid him a bonus. It wasn't a HUGE market going rate...but his options were, bytch more, sit out and hope to get traded, or play and work for more superbowls, bonuses, and royalties. Now, he's injured, will be out a total of 6 weeks, so that worked out well didn't it???

To me, the NFL is a balanced equation. While the Owners try to keep pay roles low, the players won't the most dollar insuring that if they work @ 100%, they are ok if they're injured. Yet, they're paid, even if they're out. Nice job. I know they thrust their bodies week in week out, but comparied to the rest of America, they get a good wage doing it. They might not like it totally, and they may sustain long-term injuries, but still, its better than the alternative, since most of them couldn't hack anything else.

You look at the injuries...and players are likely to undergo anything at anytime for any amount of time. Unused resources. Poorly invested assets.

So as far as X performance by performing above and beyond the call of duty, his agent's JOB is to do that. And TO did not perform above and beyond the call of duty in 2004...He was just inside the top10, in 2003, he was below the top 10...and I don't see anywhere in his career where he was #1. He brings alot to the table...but when you're a manager/owner, your job is to get the best bang for your buck to get to the superbowl, that's it.

The pats have done it without a #1. Tampa Bay did it without a #1, though they had Me-Shawn. Is it a must? Hell no. All you need is a balanced team, effective in all areas, but not strong in just 1. Having a guy like TO does that. He's not invincible. He's good, but he's rude. Ever see how LT hands the ball back? Chad Johnson show boats, but he isn't rude. (Observe To's romping of Dallas when he pounced on the star).

To me he's just a big baby in need of attention. He might have other careers because people naturally love those types...but I for one dislike him and have since he made the "gay" statements about Jeff Garcia.



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[A-Unit]

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To add to it, a 4 game suspension (3 to go) and then season-ending deactivitation. T.O. will file a grievance with the player's union, prob. get his pay for the last few weeks and they'll trade him away @ the end of the year.

They'll get a 1st rounder if they choose to, OR, they can try to get a current FA and offer some picks themselves.

According to Andy Reid, when McNabb said they didn't need TO, they were confident enough to move forward with that. Now their WR are Greg Lewis, Reggie Brown, and partially Westbrook. As said in the interview, 1 step back to go to 2 steps forward. They gave the TO project a chance and now it's faultered.

I think they should trade him to PITT and let cowher have his way with him. TO needs to be put in check.



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[doctoroxygen]

What a waste. I can't even begin to understand his thought processes. He's like a sociopath. And a tremendous talent, too.

I disagree about Westbrook not being a real RB. Warrick Dunn has proven that little-running-backs-that-could can be effective. The way I see it, give Westbrook the ball 20-30 times for a few games and see how he does. If he snaps in half, he snaps in half.

 

[thederekeffect1]

I'm an ex-49ers fan turned Eagles fan after the 49ers traded their whole offensive team for a defensive team (that pissed me off). I went to the Eagles because I saw them going to the superbowl with TO on the team, and I was right... They went to the Superbowl. Unfortunally, I got to follow TO throughout his whole career. When his ego first kicked in while he was still with the 49ers, I actually thought it was badass and kind of funny. Who didn't laugh when he pulled that sharpie out of his sock after scoring a TD, signed the ball and threw it to a fan? Besides Dallas fans, who didn't laugh when he stood in the middle of the Dallas star and taunted the team? But than he started dissing his own teamates. Why the hell would you diss the guy that throws you the ball?! His stats wouldn't mean **** if McNabb didn't throw him the ball!

Being a 49ers fan for 10 years and living in Minnesota, I'm happy to say that I finally had the chance to root for a team that actually went to the superbowl. Now I'll go back to the 49ers (despite how poorly their doing right now), because the Eagles are going to fall. Owens dented the team.

As far as the statements that Westbrook shouldn't have been resigned... He did a lot more for the Eagles than any other player on that team. He may not have the stats of Marshal Faulk or even Curtis Martin for that matter... But there's a reason they keep him. He doesn't complain about his role and he actually likes his role. They keep him because he's a lethal threat. No one has figured out what his role on the team is, so they can't focus their defense on a player like him. He has a role, but it's the Eagles dirty little secret.

 

[MindOverMatter]

I hope no one signs his ass, anyone who goes back on their contract can't be depended on, no matter how much talent or desire he brings to that team.

 

[doctoroxygen]

Unfortunately, some team with a weak receiving corps will rationalize that they can deal with his problems and pick him up.

That team would be called the Oakland Raiders, but they're full with Messrs Moss and Porter.