Techniques come off akwardly

pornstar88

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Everytime I say something ****y and funny, i get an akward response from all the females. Or if their is other guys and other girls thier it seems like the girls all team up against me like im the villian and the guys laugh like im a joke.

And negs really come off akward and makes me the bad guy. I guess that its just too hard to think of a good neg that is not too offensive on the spot. Especially in a group of females, cuz they all take up for thier friend and now im the villian.
 

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Don't focus on negs, especially if you are just getting started.

Work on getting completely comfortable approaching and building rapport (still being C&F) but don't focus on negs. Just read the convo posts in the bible and use the other techniques, negs will come when you are ready for them.
 

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YOU ARE USING TOO MUCH ****Y.......you goal is to qualify them, FORGET what everyone else says and does. ZEN thinking here, its just you and her.

C & F takes a LOT of practice to perfect and has to be adjusted with each chic. No two women will percieve it the same way......when their jaw drops and they are like I cant believe he just said that or OH NO HE DIDN'T, this is where you stand your ground. THIS IS THE NORMAL REACTION and is what you want.

Your goal is to get a reaction from her then play off that banter.

The formula is very tricky...... too much ****y or too little funny......hard to master. Another componet to remember is not to over-do it. 1-3 at the very most C & F. Use it constantly and attraction points WILL dissolve quickly. Hot CHICS-2-3 neg hits and a little more c & f, average chics....1 C & F line but make it subtle and funny.

Pick-up artists are ones that are not affected by rejections, resistance, or reactions from anyone.

I would conject that your body language is NOT congruent with what you are saying. You gotta say those lines in a playful manner, with a slight bad boy smirk or an effective glance. Before you even get to congruency stage you gotta have IT (inner game) going on inside your head. Whats dat mean---good question...heres what that means----


If you just vomit a pick-up line and toss a few neg hits or C & F at random chics without having the ability to improvise on the fly( spur of the moment), it won't work.

So lets say you say "NICE JEAN SKIRT...........DID U BUY IT NEW" and she responds with HEY THATS NOT VERY NICE OR LOOK AT YOUR SAL VATION ARMY JEANS WITH THEM 80'S holes in the knees, who the F--k you trying to be.....backstreet boys wannabe.

This is where you gotta improvise and use your verbal akido to fling it back to her. The problem is most men say this wrong and create a hostile enviroment and are un-able to recover. Crash n Burn right there despite your intensions, the perception leaves them hating you.

So its not what you say........ITS HOW YOU SAY IT, that will determine your success. Some guys start with a compliment and proceed from that point. But a back handed compliment TRIGGERS THE CHASE. Thats why C & F works wonders IF DONE CORRECTLY.

so heres what your going to do from now on.

1) just cause it didn't work the very first time don't abandom the C & F or neg hit.

2) WRITE DOWN WHAT HAPPENED-the exact line you used, how use said it, where they were, the surroundings, etc. The more specific and detailed the better.

3) ANALYZE-look at your responses and see how in the future you could improve on this line, your delivery, timing, etc. Post your line on here and members WILL give ya feed back.

4) GO out and get rejected-ya you heard me you need to get a thicker skin and develop your public speaking without flinching skills.

5) TRY NEW STUFF OUT

OKAY LET ME GIVE YA AN EXAMPLE-----REAL ONE THAT HAPPEND TO ME.

i SEE THIS CHIC.........waiting in line at bar......so I say my opener(does not matter which one) and she says I beg your pardon and i say......did I stutter or are you a peroxide blonde.

well the look on her face and her verbal abuse was very volitile, called me a loser, a-hole, etc.

1 hour later i am at the bar and there she is........so I say still havent found a man yet huh......wonder why you remain single. Again she berated me with harsh words.......I just smiled and walked away.

30 minutes later.......NOW PAY ATTENTION HERE.........she is with a guy...and she says to her man...pointing to me........this guy is such a loser do u know what he said to me.

So I say YOU KNOW..........YOU ARE KINDA CUTE!!!!! THEN WALK AWAY.

THIS TIME SHE APROACHES ME.............why do u gotta be such a a-hole.............my reponse......I dont gotta be I chose to be and you love it.

YA right she says........4 minutes later......she says I cant beleive I am writing down my number ( I asked for it).

See I could have allowed her comments to phase me........but........in the end I ended up with her giving me her number.

MORAL OF MY STORY-stay the course and you will reap the benefits.

now go out anf try this stuff out.
 

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I said it before and I'll say it again, negs should be left to the professionals. Hell, guy's should take a test in order to carry a license to use C/F.
 
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