Talking about SoSuave

[donttrustme]

Hi Guys!

I´ve been a passive reader so far.
I really enjoy the advice and knowledge in this forum and I can say I learned a lot. So thank you very much!

My question: I recently got into a LTR and I´m interested if you guys ever spoke about SoSuave or being a DJ to your girl(s)?

For myself, I haven´t spoke about being on this forum, but she definitely knows that I know much about women in general and how to behave to be successful with woman.

 

[9asus2]

Why would you want to?

 

[Desdinova]

I did once and it was a major mistake.

<<<< This is not my original username.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Put it this way; you find a book or a website that gives you tips and tricks on becoming a better poker player, and you start to find that some of the advice really works well, you start winning. Would you go on to discuss the book, site and/or the contents with your regular opponents?

I think probably not.

 

[dustmuffin]

DOn't tell her anything

 

[Young OG]

It's like fight club...

 

[RangerMIke]

Sure, I've told women about this, but the truth is that when you tlak about it, many already know.... Women are relationship sponges, they read and research EVERYTHING they can find on relationships.... the books on relationships are all bought by women. Writing a relationship book for men isn't going to make nearly as much money as relationship advice for women... just go to a book store, there is an ENTIRE section dedicated to self-help and relationships, 95% are geared towards women. Chances are she has already hear about this and there is a chance they have visited. They are disciples of relationships... rust me.. they understand men... they REALLY DO. When relationships fail.... if a women is REALLY honest about it, will admit that THEY are the reason it failed. It's either a relationship THEY KNOW they never should have gotten into, or the relationship failed because of what THEY did.

A lot of stuff posted here is not politically correct. Most women I've sent here to look at the site typically laugh... then ridicule the philosophy. But when you start to question them, they will agree the all this is true.

Women really do not like what they respond to. They can't stand that they jump from some 'bad boy' to the next, when they have nice stable guys right in front of them. But look it's just like we men are... THEY HATE the fact that they cheat on the BFs and husbands..... OF COURSE all of us men would be better off long run, settling down with a 5, who is a little cubby, but is sweet, loves puppies, loves us, and will treat us well and be loyal. But that's not what MOST men are attracted to.

We do the same sh!t they do. we chase narcissistic 8s and 9s, fall in love with them, then get upset and butt hurt when they start fvcking other guys. We go after the beautiful women thinking somehow we can change them... you can't

This is honesty... this is the way things are, we do not live in a Disney Movie. A vast majority of relationships are temporary at best. Your best course of action is to be the VERY best person you can be, be honest with your purpose, and do the best you kind to find are draw people in your life that makes you happy... life is way too short for relationship drama. If you can find a LTR that is reasonably drama free then go for it.

 

[Lozboss]

Mike that's a very frank view. If not quite saddening.

AGREE 100% that being a DJ isn't about being an assh*le or a scumbag who uses their skills to the detriment of others. ALWAYS conduct yourself with integrity and don't be a cheat.

I think in the end you can find a 8/9 and date them in a LTR but it requires you to be ON top of your game constantly. That means as Corey Wayne says- constantly subconsciously reading interest levels and adjusting your behaviour.

If I'm honest- 97% of men do not have the mental stamina to be constantly vigilant and adjust.

 

[donttrustme]

This is honesty... this is the way things are, we do not live in a Disney Movie. A vast majority of relationships are temporary at best. Your best course of action is to be the VERY best person you can be, be honest with your purpose, and do the best you kind to find are draw people in your life that makes you happy... life is way too short for relationship drama. If you can find a LTR that is reasonably drama free then go for it.

I 100% agree on that part.

Thanks for all the input!

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

RangerMike understands. Men and women are not all that different.

I think another thing that women understand, especially the hot ones, is that men are much more at the mercy of their hormones than we realise. One hit of testosterone, on sight of a hot chick puts the majority of guys in to a trance where they act like mentally unstable halfwits. I saw some guy yesterday trying to approach some 8/9 outside the station; physically he was jumping all over the place, literally falling over himself to impress her. She just stood there perfectly serene and still, just laughing at him (not with him).

Lozboss does make a good point too, about being on top of your game, and it gets easier. But it should come from a place of security and ultimate confidence and inner peace, rather than 'mental stamina and vigilance'. Look after and love oneself first, and it makes it much easier for others to love you because you don't need anything from them.

 

[Armourhead]

Do not tell her.

I had one ex who was snooping on my computer and saw that I was a regular Chateau Heartiste reader for several years. She reacted very negatively to it. Women can't bear to face the demons of their nature. I managed to keep her on as a fcuk buddy for a couple years after that but it destroyed the image in her mind that I was a guy who "just got it"

 

[Glumix]

RangerMike understands. Men and women are not all that different.

I think another thing that women understand, especially the hot ones, is that men are much more at the mercy of their hormones than we realise. One hit of testosterone, on sight of a hot chick puts the majority of guys in to a trance where they act like mentally unstable halfwits. I saw some guy yesterday trying to approach some 8/9 outside the station; physically he was jumping all over the place, literally falling over himself to impress her. She just stood there perfectly serene and still, just laughing at him (not with him).

Lozboss does make a good point too, about being on top of your game, and it gets easier. But it should come from a place of security and ultimate confidence and inner peace, rather than 'mental stamina and vigilance'. Look after and love oneself first, and it makes it much easier for others to love you because you don't need anything from them.

Isn't top of the game being a natural ? If the IL drop it is often because you already returned back to a beta mindset.

Being vigilant is about you, not about her.

You can certainly relax a bit during a LTR but if you stop feeling your balls you are dead wether you are in a LTR or spinning plates.

I personaly prefer to be in a constant state of horniness and let my GF in the same state instead of consuming her in 3 months. Scarcity is also about sex.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Isn't top of the game being a natural ?

Yes. Exactly. Being natural transcends game, or being a 'DJ'.

Game-playing and 'DJing' aren't destinations. These can be viewed as training programmes that teach you to be a man, a natural with women.

Interest level can drop regardless of one's own behaviour.

That's what I mean about not having to be in a 'vigilant' mind set. The better place to get to is where you don't even think about it; because, success or failure with a woman doesn't matter, you know there's another opportunity just round the corner. Because you are naturally content, entertaining and in abundance, irrespective of anyone else.

 

[Glumix]

Yes. Exactly. Being natural transcends game, or being a 'DJ'.

Game-playing and 'DJing' aren't destinations. These can be viewed as training programmes that teach you to be a man, a natural with women.

Interest level can drop regardless of one's own behaviour.

That's what I mean about not having to be in a 'vigilant' mind set. The better place to get to is where you don't even think about it; because, success or failure with a woman doesn't matter, you know there's another opportunity just round the corner. Because you are naturally content, entertaining and in abundance, irrespective of anyone else.

Yes, that is the real mindset. The goal is to be a man, not to have women. Having women is a byproduct.

But one must learn to feel their balls before and to accept their own nature. So even rejected one is still successful simply because he embraced his own nature.

 

[NSX-R]

No i never talk about sosuave to any other person . The only exception is when a good friend of mine seems to be in frustration and is looking for a way out, that's when I show them the place. It's like matrix, some people are not ready to get unplugged and others are looking for the truth.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

A dang shame you guys can't tell your women about the resources you're using to attract them. I don't personally see any point in trying to hide it. Assuming you're trying to go for a long-term relationship, she's going to eventually find out. There's no need to tell them during the dating phase that you do, but if it comes up in conversation once you're in the relationship... ideally, you're dating a girl that's smart enough to understand that, just like she has HER sources she goes to for relationship help, that men have theirs as well.

My current girlfirend (3 years and counting) knows about every dating relationship-oriented thing that I'm into. That means she knows I have a podcast, that I give out relationship advice, frequent SoSuave, David DeAngelo, Doc Love, Tripp Advice, Carlos Xuma, and several other "advice for men" resources. And she's been to those website pages, and has seen some of my posts on here... I explained to her, "This is part of who I am and how I learned to treat you so well" and didn't make it a big deal.

Why didn't she get mad? Because women WANT a guy that KNOWS what he's doing. So, if you're treating her well and making her feel loved, in her head it means whatever sources you're using to learn how to do these things are working... and she doesn't want you to STOP making her feel that way. If she sees those sources as a BENEFIT instead of a way for your to trick and manipulate women, she can't get mad.

Bottom line: if the girl you're dating isn't reasonable enough to see that it's fine for you to look up ways to attract her, chances are she's probably not someone you want to date because you can't be open with her.

 

[logicallefty]

I've had women catch me on SS before. I tell them "it's a men's support site. Lots of good stuff about dealing with BS at work, finances, etc. but when it comes to women they have some crazy ideas, I don't buy it". One woman came to the site and browsed and said "you know, that's your site, I have no business snooping around on there!"

 

[zekko]

I would never talk about it, I doubt that she would understand.

You ever see the movie "Think LIke a Man"? Women always seem to get p!ssed off when you are following some sort of strategy to deal with them. I guess because you're not being genuine with them, and you're trying to manipulate them. Well, in this movie, the women have this book about how to deal with men, sort of like "The Rules" or whatever.

The men find this book, and realize that their women are following the advice in it (some of it includes withholding sex). So the guys use this information to act in a certain way so that they get sex. And of course the women find out and get mad about it. My question has always been why don't the guys get mad that the girls were following a book to manipulate them? That seemed to be perfectly okay, it was only when the guys read the book and defended themselves that it became a big crime. Typical male/female double standard, I guess.

 

[Huffman]

A dang shame you guys can't tell your women about the resources you're using to attract them.

Mad props to you, Harry, that this is working for you. Personally I could never imagine being that open to anyone. The exception being 2 bros I've known for all my life. Which is probably why I've never had very long relationships

 

[Huffman]

I haven't talked about SoSuave to anyone, but I've forwarded the Book of Pook a couple of times.
Guy 1 told me he read a bit and it's crazy and desperate
Guy 2, who is a great AFC, didn't say anything about it and he's still a wimp