Taking some time off from women

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my relationship is dead, although none of us said it to the other, i noticed my gf is like a friend now, she doesnt talk to me, almost never text me the whole day, and we dont live near enough to stay everyday together and i dont really want to put up with this **** anymore. and honestly guys i never believed an ex could be a friend at least i've never been friends with an ex before.

so im thinking of moving on, concentrate in some other matters. seems to me that some guys here can live easily without women, at least from what i read in some threads. i know it sounds easier than it is really but how do you guys supress the desire of having a woman / having a ltr?

i really think some guys really do well without gf,after all it's fun while it lasts but it sucks balls when it's over and you suffer with it.

what do you dedicate your time to? ideas, suggestions

i don't have many male friends to hang around, most of them have gfs and rarely go out, and i really dont like going to clubs, so going solo is out of the question.
 

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before i say what i'm about to say i just want to let you know that i'm not perfect and make a-lot of mistakes. there are probably a-lot of people out there who think i'm a d!ck, w/e.

having said that, i really think a major problem with people, at least in the western world, is the fact that they are SOOOOOOOOOO "significant other" oriented. Everyone is obsessed with having a girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, or husband.

I always get the question "why don't you have a girlfriend". As if it's the end all be all of LIFE to have a girlfriend. I think that's why so many guys are so needy. They think if they only could get themselves a girlfriend, life will suddenly make sense. It will ALL come together. And to be honest with you, I don't think it's even their fault, well not most of them. I mean we live in a society that stresses this bf/gf thing CONSTANTLY. No wonder the divorce rates are so high

I don't believe in this peer pressure approach to relationships. I think it takes a strong person to really sit down and THINK about what they want to do with THEMSELVES; what kind of a life they want, what would truly make them happy. Additionally, I think a-lot of people who do dare to think that way realize that achieving their dream in life would take WAYY too much time and effort, and hey, what's the point when you could just grab the nearest person, slap a wedding ring on their finger, pop out some kids, and live "happily ever after"........right?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for kids, marriage, etc BUT I think you need to carve out your own way in this world first. You need to have an identity separate from your significant other. Idk, man. Maybe I'm full of sh!t. But i do think forgetting about girls right now is the best thing for you because maybe it will help you to truly think about what you want to do with yourself in this life.

I've always noticed the people who have truly clicked with me, personality wise, sought me out because I was enjoying what I was doing in life, if that makes any sense. I'll try to elaborate. When I was happy and content with myself and the direction i was going in, other people really became interested in me. However, when I started feeling like I needed other people to be happy, i.e a girlfriend or w/e you wanna call it, people avoided me like the plague.

I'm rambling. Look dude, i don't know how old you are but my best advice would be, yes, take some time off from girls and go after the things you really want in life. If you do that, people, not JUST girls, but people in generally, will seek you out and want to be a-part of your life. peace
 

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btownbuck2012 said:
before i say what i'm about to say i just want to let you know that i'm not perfect and make a-lot of mistakes. there are probably a-lot of people out there who think i'm a d!ck, w/e.

having said that, i really think a major problem with people, at least in the western world, is the fact that they are SOOOOOOOOOO "significant other" oriented. Everyone is obsessed with having a girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, or husband.

I always get the question "why don't you have a girlfriend". As if it's the end all be all of LIFE to have a girlfriend. I think that's why so many guys are so needy. They think if they only could get themselves a girlfriend, life will suddenly make sense. It will ALL come together. And to be honest with you, I don't think it's even their fault, well not most of them. I mean we live in a society that stresses this bf/gf thing CONSTANTLY. No wonder the divorce rates are so high

I don't believe in this peer pressure approach to relationships. I think it takes a strong person to really sit down and THINK about what they want to do with THEMSELVES; what kind of a life they want, what would truly make them happy. Additionally, I think a-lot of people who do dare to think that way realize that achieving their dream in life would take WAYY too much time and effort, and hey, what's the point when you could just grab the nearest person, slap a wedding ring on their finger, pop out some kids, and live "happily ever after"........right?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for kids, marriage, etc BUT I think you need to carve out your own way in this world first. You need to have an identity separate from your significant other. Idk, man. Maybe I'm full of sh!t. But i do think forgetting about girls right now is the best thing for you because maybe it will help you to truly think about what you want to do with yourself in this life.

I've always noticed the people who have truly clicked with me, personality wise, sought me out because I was enjoying what I was doing in life, if that makes any sense. I'll try to elaborate. When I was happy and content with myself and the direction i was going in, other people really became interested in me. However, when I started feeling like I needed other people to be happy, i.e a girlfriend or w/e you wanna call it, people avoided me like the plague.

I'm rambling. Look dude, i don't know how old you are but my best advice would be, yes, take some time off from girls and go after the things you really want in life. If you do that, people, not JUST girls, but people in generally, will seek you out and want to be a-part of your life. peace
Excellent, Girls should be the compliment, not the Focus.
 

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best thign i ever did for myself in regards to women is take 3 years off from even trying to date them and focus on my bisness and myself.

you will figure out who you are and carve out a true idenity.

Violent passions are formed in solitude. In the busy world no object has time to make a deep impression. - Henry Home


the dating scene is full of men, and hell women who have no real true identity, who barely know what they are, who don't live for anything. they are unwilling to sacrifice the short term for the long term and never get the long term they really want becuase of it.


best thing i ever did. not by purpose mind you, but i did it. Not only that, but it takes away the fear of being alone. the only true way you can develop a "okay babe you can go" attitude is if you do not fear being alone. the only way you can truly walk is if yoyu aren't afraid what you are walking into. it can't be a facade.


I was going to start another post for this but the guy above me (great post BTW) hit on it so I will post it here. I'm sitting here today, my wife has company, this 35 year old woman, who is out of shape, and has nothing whatsoever going for herself. I don't know why she hangs out with her to be frank but that's her "girlfriend". Anyway, the entire conversation, like 90 minutes was her talking about "well I called him and told him look I don't want to be with you", " I told the dude I like you and you need to act like a man", " this dude wants tot ake me out but my ex won't like this blah blah blah".. 90 mintues non stop just fvckign drama. like the freaking young and the restless.

this is this woman's identity. she has a dead end job, i've never seen her interested in antyhing expet food, she has a kid by her ex who is a the lone lost bebe kid. this woman lives for this ****. this drama. even if **** is going okay, she will manufacturer drama in her life, I'm convinced of it, because this is all she has to live for. this is her excitement.

The sad thing about it is, she isn't even really that bad in comparison to society. if my wife was anything like that she would be kicked out the door. this is your avg run of the mill 36 year old slightly attractive but slightly overweight woman.

this is what you are signing up for when you have no identity. You get sucked into this drama filled world beucase you become to a point that your life has no real purpose or exitement and you tend to feed off of the **** too.
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backbreaker said:
best thign i ever did for myself in regards to women is take 3 years off from even trying to date them and focus on my bisness and myself.

you will figure out who you are and carve out a true idenity.


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Truth. I've taken mostly the last year off, besides some girls I just randomly lucked up on who were DTF and put it out there. I'm down 30 lbs. I had a rough first year in business, but I learned alot about what I need to do this year to build a stable steady income. I'm at the office right now, I was here last night on NYE. I'll be here every day and every night until I get this thing going. I spend my days either cold calling, or out selling and my evenings producing and my nights working on the next step. I just don't have time for women right now. This is a battle for survival.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Today, on the first (well second now) day of 2012 I did a lot of this self reflection - and I truly noticed just how much energy I spend thinking about women Im seeing, or was seeing, or Im planning on asking out, etc. Thinking about one woman Im seeing and even entertaining thoughts about making her exclusive (stupid). Thinking about one girl I had a brief oneitis for that stopped calling a month ago. Its all so mentally draining and uses so much energy when we should be concentrating on bigger and more important things.

Great men throughout history were NOT preoccupied with finding a wife, getting laid, etc. They had more important concerns, fighting to correct injustices or investigating the natural world around us. This is what they are known for - they are NOT known for how many women they were able to get into bed.

The desire to find a mate is something animalistic. It is indicative of the fact that we are just sophisticated primates. It is a reflection of our evolutionary heritage. We should not be so preoccupied with something we have in common with chimpanzees, and horses, and birds, and every other animal.

Im not saying we should stop being human. But for heavens sake, lets transcend the primate part of us to some extent and aspire to be something more. Forge our own identities not based on finding women to "complete" us but on something that truly makes us individuals.
 

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Serg897 said:
Today, on the first (well second now) day of 2012 I did a lot of this self reflection - and I truly noticed just how much energy I spend thinking about women Im seeing, or was seeing, or Im planning on asking out, etc. Thinking about one woman Im seeing and even entertaining thoughts about making her exclusive (stupid). Thinking about one girl I had a brief oneitis for that stopped calling a month ago. Its all so mentally draining and uses so much energy when we should be concentrating on bigger and more important things.

Great men throughout history were NOT preoccupied with finding a wife, getting laid, etc. They had more important concerns, fighting to correct injustices or investigating the natural world around us. This is what they are known for - they are NOT known for how many women they were able to get into bed.

The desire to find a mate is something animalistic. It is indicative of the fact that we are just sophisticated primates. It is a reflection of our evolutionary heritage. We should not be so preoccupied with something we have in common with chimpanzees, and horses, and birds, and every other animal.

Im not saying we should stop being human. But for heavens sake, lets transcend the primate part of us to some extent and aspire to be something more. Forge our own identities not based on finding women to "complete" us but on something that truly makes us individuals.
This is a good post

2 things I would like to add to this

1. the animalistic analogy is a pretty common one and there is some truth to it. The fact of the matter is, we are all put here to reproduce, it's what's been going on for about 3 billion years ever since the first single cell oragism showed up on earth.

BUT

let's say you are a lion. you are coming of age, and your little lion pee pee is getting hard and you want some lion booty. Mating season comes around and you just like every other lion wants to get some.

You quickly find out, a harsh lesson in wild life. These female lions aren't interested in you regardless of how hard you try. They are all interested in the alpha lion of the pride.

The lion, instinctively realizes, ifi I want to get laid, I have to be that guy, or in this case, lion. So what does he do?

he leaves the pack

(well technically he is going to leave the pack anyway because there is only one male lion in a pride, but you get the point)

He does not, go around, and hopelessly follow the female lions in hopes that open of them will see something in him that makes him so great and give him some lion tail. He doesn't pick out a particular female lion and keep bringing her meat and food and **** to try to impress her lol (actually the female lions do all the hunting and the alpha male eats first).

He leaves, he goes out on his own, for years, and gets bigger and stronger. He learns how to kill and learns how to fight. He learns how to become the lion that you see in the safari and say "fvck that, now that's a fvcking lion".

Only then, does he go back and challenge the alpha lion for supremacy of the pride. They fight, sometimes to the death though usually not. sometimes he wins, sometimes he loses. But the point is, true animalstlic nature does not include constinatnly following around women and tring ot have a "soul mate". that's the Beatles and HallMarktalking, not human nature.


It's not that men, didn't give a **** about women. On the contrary, ome of the biggest wars in the history of the world were fought over nothing more than pvssy. If George Washington didn't have the worst case of oneitis in the history fo the united states lol he probably wouldn't be the first president. They just knew it wasn't something that should, at least the smart ones, consume their entire lives, and the more like "MEN" they became the easier it becomes to find a woman.


point number 2.


you alluded to the fact in your post that you spend so much time thinking about getting laid. Step back and now realize how silly it is to talk about "playing hard to get". women can sniff right through that **** like a rat can smell garbage. You might think you are being cute with your 2 day no contact but your true nature, just like hers, will come out sooner or later. You will be **** tested and you will fail because at the core, you need a woman. you crave the ****.

I'm not saying that, I became indifferent to women. to the contrary every night i dreamed about a different girl when I went to bed. But I realized taht my life would go on if I didn't have one. I could still do ****,l I wasn't any less of a man becuase I had no woman and hell it had it's advantages. I got **** done.


If I had to design a program for men to be irresistible to women of all kinds, I would start off by making them not touch a woman for 2 years. not even attempt to. The actual game can be taught in a matter of months if not weeks. But your core framework takes time to build. I'm sure half of you stopped reading right there lol. there is so much you can do for yourself and your frame, in 2 years, that you will seem like an alien to women compared to these other men running around here.
 

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The fact of the matter is, we are all put here to reproduce
This is only true if you wish to play the same evolutionary game all of our ancestors have played to get us here. I have no desire to have kids - they take up a lot of time, and money, and there are more than enough humans on the planet (7 billion and counting!). This is not a problem I want to contribute to.

What is difficult, or nearly impossible, to control is the desire for sex and female companionship. Those who try to repress it almost always fail. Take a vow of celibacy and you end up molesting children. It is not just a problem with the catholic church - buddhist monks have been known to do the same thing. But plenty of buddhist monks are also able to do nothing but go into a cave for months and meditate on compassion.

you alluded to the fact in your post that you spend so much time thinking about getting laid. Step back and now realize how silly it is to talk about "playing hard to get". women can sniff right through that **** like a rat can smell garbage. You might think you are being cute with your 2 day no contact but your true nature, just like hers, will come out sooner or later. You will be **** tested and you will fail because at the core, you need a woman. you crave the ****.
This is so true. This is why even experienced DJs who have been at this website for a long time have AFC relapses when they meet a woman that seem to have those idealized qualities that appear like everything you are looking for - the "dream woman". This JUST happened to me, and it was a painful wake up call that I am still unable to control my desires when I meet a woman that seems to fit that ideal. I wanted to make her part of my life and it showed. She sniffed me out and kicked me to the curb.

This is when I realize that in order to truly play this game with those top notch women you must be ACTUALLY happy as a single man. You must not be a pretender - you have to truly think this way, otherwise the woman will notice. When there are no other women available, you must be perfectly content with staying at home and doing other things. I have no regrets about my experience - it reiterated a valuable lesson that I guess I had forgotten. Unlike in the past, I'm not gonna grovel and continue to chase. I'm taking this one like man.

What I haven't quite exactly figured out quite yet is the balance. As a man you are supposed to go for what you want without apologizing for your sexuality, and yet you must also be independent and not care about women too much. Seemingly contradictory, although I think you can walk a fine line.
 

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what happens to me after a while is that i get tired of the woman i'm with and she as well, it can last some months, to one or 2 years max but the outcome is always the same.relationships lead to boredom and i keep needing my space. i dont know if it's only me, but this happens a lot.

that's why i'm thinking of stop wanting to have a relationship with a woman, maybe getting laid here and there, and continue on with my life. it's not written that for a man to be happy he needs to have a gf, if he has goals that occupy his life he can be happy all the same.
 

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