Superiority of Black Athletes

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Does it have something to do with genetics, diet, social enivornment, motivation, or what? Any sport that blacks go into, they will dominate it. Even in my martial arts school, blacks are the fastest, strongest, and strategically speaking, the most accurate.

Oh P.S. this is not a racist post, just a discussion.
 

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Well, it DOES sound racist.

I'd say that other than basketball, it's not genetics. It's probably just social and motivational. They want to do something with their lives, and since they THINK they can't do it through school they work doubly hard on sports and become better. I don't think blacks would dominate as much if whites got off their asses.

It might also be genetic, because of subtle differences in muscles or something, but I'm not a doctor yet so I have no idea.
 

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When it comes to basketball and why white men can't jump, it was explained to me by my anatomy teacher that black folks have a lighter skeletal system than others. In other words, their bones are less dense. I know it sounds like a bunch of BS, so take it anyway you wish to. I do not endorse the information above.
 

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Oh no... not again...


Listen, I've been lambasted a few weeks ago for making remarks that supposedly sounded "anti-black". I suggested that black men receive favorable treatment due to stereotypes. This is one of them.

Let me reiterate that my point was to say that all races get a bum rap, as well as good ones. So simply calling out the positive stereotypes of blacks and maintaining that they aren't always a given when it comes to a black individual does NOT make me a racist. It's not being a facken "hater". Give me a goddamn break. I'm just calling out people on the crazy hype that isn't 100% deserved. It's as plain as that.


Getting back to the topic, I'm sick of hearing all these white tubs of lard (no offense, really) complaining that blacks kick their azzes in sports. Give me a break! I take black guys to school all the time on the basketball court. Most are much larger than me. I'm not big, so I compensate with speed, mad handles, and agility, as well as superior court vision and intricate knowledge of the game of basketball. I see many white guys that are just as good as the black guys. The only difference between the white guys that hold their own with others and the ones that complain that whites are no good at sport is that the latter don't do anything about it.


You just have to believe. I honestly think that believeing sterotypes adds to a perpetuating cycle. Do you think that you'll suck at basketball because you're white and can't jump? Congratualtions then, you've just made your beliefs a reality.


People would try to force feed me the notion that Asians were inferior in many aspects of life, and that Asians were only good for making money and cheating people with their sneakiness. Picking up women? Pshh... Athletics? Yeah, right.


The important thing is that I never listened. I guess being stubborn helps sometimes. Asians in America only make up 4% of the population. Bump that up to 15% or so, and I guarantee you that we will be turning as many heads as blacks. We just have to reach that critical point where the population is large enough to sustain such performance. Blacks have reached that, and their drive to achieve thru athletic means certainly helps them.


When I was 13 and first started shooting hoops, I was 5'5" and 125 pounds. I couldn't even get the backboard. Now I can easily grab the hoop with two hands. (I can't quite dunk yet though, it's very hard to gain those last few inches of vertical jump. I'm still working on it.) Btw, I'm a hair under 5'9". I drop dimes in a heartbeat. I have a very consistent 15-23 foot shot with a smooth stroke. I can rebound well for a small man.


And what did it take for me, a part of a supposedly physically inferior race, to become a solid ball player? Just practice. That's it. I don't have the size of Yao Ming or the hands of John Stockton, so I've had to practice.


It's important to keep things in perspective. I will probably never be good enough to play in Div. 1 college ball, let alone the CBA. I just don't have the size. But I play well on the playground. And that's good enough for this guy, who never had aspirations to play pro ball. Imagine what a guy with twice my desire to play ball could do. Color don't mean a muthafukken thang, I'm serious.


It is also important to choose the right sport. If you just aren't built to be explosive (i.e. your body is fleshy and muscular but just not with fast-twitch muscles), then you need to choose a sport that better fits your build. For example, I belive that I would have been an excellent tennis player because of my speed and hand to eye coordination, but unfortuantely I rebelled against my mother for forcing me to take up tennis when I was 9. :( Just youthful foolishness, I guess.


So anyway, if you're a white guy who spends most of his time watching ESPN thinking he can never be as athletic as a black guy, then shoot, get your azz up, and DO IT. This is just a DJ pursuit as trying to pick up women.
 

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I didn't biitch about anything. When it comes to basketball, I can play with the best.
I'm 6'4", and I play a center/forward. Our team consists of some very short people, and me being the third tallest in school, I get to play the towers. My shot percentage is consistent .650-.700, so I don't see a reason to biitch about anything. I was just replying to his questions from a scientific point of view.
Cheers.
 

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So simply calling out the positive stereotypes of blacks and maintaining that they aren't always a given when it comes to a black individual does NOT make me a racist.
Yep, if you're talking about a single individual.

If I say "Whites are better than blacks at doing whatever." I'm a racist, so why isn't it called racist for doing the exact same thing, only saying it's blacks who are better?

Racism is stereotyping based on race. Usually, that stereotyping is bad, but it's still racism if you think one race is better overall.

"Blacks are better than whites." Hence "Whites are worse than blacks." hence racism against whites.

Calling against racism isn't racism. If it is, then most blacks are racist.
 

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Originally posted by BMW
Does it have something to do with genetics, diet, social enivornment, motivation, or what? Any sport that blacks go into, they will dominate it.
Genetics.

But, that doesn't mean that they will dominate all sports. It depends on the sport.

It is obvious that black people are genetically better sprinters than any other race, because in the Olympics 100 metre final you will ALWAYS see 8 black people lined up to run the race. This doesn't mean that white people cannot excel at sprinting. It just means that when these athletes are at their maximum potential, blacks dominate whites at sprinting. I'm sure there are quite a few white people who can run a "near 10 second" 100 metre dash but they will never set a world record because they are limited by their genetics.

Genetics, IMO, is not a huge factor to athletic success. It is obviously prevalent at the highest level (The Olympics, NBA, NFL...) but in general, superior genetics can be rivaled with someone who has average genetics and knows how to train for their sport. In other words, genetics means nothing if you don't know how to train in the first place.
 

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Blacks make up what, 10-15% of the US population? They make up 80+% of the NBA and NFL.

It's pretty hard to deny that the top 5% of black athletes are better than the top 5% of white athletes, at least in football and basketball. The main reason is speed, speed kills in football. Althought the top end blacks may run only a few hundreths of a second faster than the top end whites in a 40 yard dash, that difference is enough to make them pretty much dominate the top level of the sport.
 

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First of all.....I am NOT racist! I am Brazilian of Portuguese and Italian families...so there is no way I could ever even be called racist to American Blacks,because I am not Anglo Saxon, rather Mediterannean.

That said, I studied in college an interesting scientific explanation for each race and their striking characteristics, as sterotypical as it may sound.

As for the blacks all over the world, it has been said that due to the fact that they originated in Africa(a hostile enviroment) then when they were "discovered" by the Europeans they were maintained as either slaves or forced to do some sort of manual labor, evolution provided them with bodies more suited to physical activities....in modern times: sports.

That theory is pretty convincing, although I am not saying it is the 100% truth...I am not a social scientist. Just don't take it the wrong way,ok?
 

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Originally posted by Mercury21
First of all.....I am NOT racist! I am Brazilian of Portuguese and Italian families...so there is no way I could ever even be called racist to American Blacks,because I am not Anglo Saxon, rather Mediterannean.
I'm tired of making logical arguments about racism, so I'll use two simple words:

FOCK YOU
 

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Let's face it there are genetic differences. BETWEEN ALL OF US!

Muscle fiber composition varies between people, but it can be altered. Nonetheless genetically there are differences.

Some people lack the genetics to be a pro athlete, others may not be as blessed but work their ass of to make it to that level.
 

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I'm so damn tired of hearing people scream racism, its getting really damn old. People use it as a scapegoat all the time. Are blacks better in sports? If you look at the top athletes in the country, I'd say yes. Does the Japanse and Chinse have unbelievable technology that is smoking the US's ass in some places? Yes. I dont understand why if someone says that they are automatically racist, its BS. Did you ever stop to think thats maybe its true? But people dont want to hear the truth, its easier to point fingers and yell racism it doesnt matter if you say something good or bad, i.e. blacks are better than whites in sports, or the japanese has better technology that the U.S.
Am I preujice? hell yeah, against stupid people, and THATS IT.
 

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Originally posted by LilJuan
I'm so damn tired of hearing people scream racism, its getting really damn old. People use it as a scapegoat all the time. Are blacks better in sports? If you look at the top athletes in the country, I'd say yes. Does the Japanse and Chinse have unbelievable technology that is smoking the US's ass in some places? Yes. I dont understand why if someone says that they are automatically racist, its BS. Did you ever stop to think thats maybe its true? But people dont want to hear the truth, its easier to point fingers and yell racism it doesnt matter if you say something good or bad, i.e. blacks are better than whites in sports, or the japanese has better technology that the U.S.
Am I preujice? hell yeah, against stupid people, and THATS IT.
You know what's stupid about this? You're right, mostly.

But if I say whites are smarter than blacks, I'm a racist. Where's the fairness? There's more white professors, researchers, college grads, scientists, than there are blacks. So, by your logic, whites ARE smarter than blacks, and that's it.
 

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I think it's mindl thing.

I think that young black men are often more confidenant than young white men.

I think, it's fair to say that, in the US, if you are black, you are going to have a "slightly-to-somewhat" harder time being successful than if you are white, and because of that, they have a little more of a fight mentality than we do, which really shows up in sports.

There's a saying among black people, that goes something like "If you are black, you have to work twice as hard as the white guy next to you."

Bu think about it. Back in high school , and college, remember all the AFC white guys tripped over there feet and acting dumb around the girls, while all the black guys seemed like natural born DJs?

I think that "Whatever you believe to be true, it is true, regardless of weither it is THE TRUTH." I think, that most black people just believe they have to work harder and struggle more than their white counter parts, and the benefits of this is more natural confidence..
 

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Originally posted by LionFox
I think it's mindl thing.

I think that young black men are often more confidenant than young white men.

Bu think about it. Back in high school , and college, remember all the AFC white guys tripped over there feet and acting dumb around the girls, while all the black guys seemed like natural born DJs?
Ok... Let's make up some more stupid theories.
 

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Black people, or more specifically, people of West African heritage, tend to have better genetics for explosive speed. Which makes them excel in sprinting and sports like football, etc.

But genetics does not play a very big part in all this. A lot of it is cultural too.

Do you know why Kenyans are such good endurance athletes? Because in their society, running is the most common form of transportation. Why does the US get its ass kicked in the World Cup time and time again? Because soccer is only now being recognized as a legit sport here in the states.

And tell me, how many black people are playing in the NHL right now? Now, how many Canadians are playing in the NHL?

Genetics can only give you so much...but any person can be good with some work...and if they are raised in the right environment.
 

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In order to become extremely superior at any activity (this applies to all), there are sacrifices to be made. If you have to sacrifice your health or your education to become the best at an activity, it would be best to drop that quest.

I know a lot of coaches of various sports who will not permit their players to sacrifice health or education for the sport. In fact, they'll demand their players to do good or they'll be dropped from the team.
 

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It's not coincidence that blacks can sky better than white guys. However, the asians who do wushsu have 3 foot verts as well. Maybe if you just apply yourself you can achieve. For a black kid who doesn't like school and gets into weed, a b-ball court is where he spends all his free time. I've seen them live the life, I play with them.

Whereas when a white kid starts failing and getting into weed, they pick up a guitar or surfboard or snowboard.
 

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Fred, this isnt racism. You proved it yourself.

Racism is stereotyping based on race. Usually, that stereotyping is bad, but it's still racism if you think one race is better overall.

Now look at what he said:
Does it have something to do with genetics, diet, social enivornment, motivation, or what?
He is basing it on genetics etc...not race.


Would it be racist if I said that most blacks are lactose intolerant?
 

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Big N - he is stereotyping the entire Black population as being better than the entire White population. It is racist.

Any sport that blacks go into, they will dominate it.
 
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