Sudden loss of appetite, is there a way to make myself hungry again?

[Duracell_Bunny]

This always happens when my emotional state goes low, usually due to when things fall apart with women that were going well, or most especially when I make mistakes that leaves me feeling regretful (I'm inexpereincing and learning, yet looking for a relationship and not just spinning plates/fun). Going slightly off subject it does take me long peroids of time between leeds/numbers.

When life is all good I find myself getting hungry all the time and eating quickly.


Unfortunetely right now I havn't eatan properly for the past couple of days due to a situation that has caused me to loose a chick that had high IL, and I'm into her a lot. Its also affected my sleep, I can't settle and find my self turning over constantly throught the night. Its that bad I don't even feel like jackin off (sorry!).

I have tried just cooking and forcing myself to eat. Its not like I feel full, I feel dry mouthed and everything seems tasteless, even though I'm drinking water throughout the day.

I had a heavy session at the gym yesterday, that didn't kick start it. I just didn't want to eat at all. All I had was one jacket potato earlier in the day. When I got home I just wasn't hunry at all. I forced myself to have a shake (weight gain). Today all I've managed is a small corrn on the cob with one piece of pitta bread.

Its a little bit annoying as my trainer has given me a diet plan, which was only changed a few days ago as I wasn't getting enough carbs causing me to loose muscle mass. This new diet plan has huge portions of rice/pasta etc.

The problem is Im missing these meals or cannot finish them. I guess most people comfort eat when there down, I get the oposite. Its a shame I'm on a weight gain program.



For my emotional state I'm doing much as I can today. Normaly a Sunday is my lazy day of the week where I have nothing to do and just chill at home resting. But I can't sit down and let go, I feel all edgy and can't relax finding myself just wondering around the house daydreaming. I've arranged to see some friends, having another workout in a while so I hope that might help so I can feel a bit better and eat.

 

[EFFORT]

This always happens when my emotional state goes low, usually due to when things fall apart with women that were going well, or most especially when I make mistakes that leaves me feeling regretful (I'm inexpereincing and learning, yet looking for a relationship and not just spinning plates/fun). Going slightly off subject it does take me long peroids of time between leeds/numbers.


Get over this stuff and understand it'll be a process. Create an action plan to improve yourself with women but leave it at that. Don't take the process personal just show up and do it.


When life is all good I find myself getting hungry all the time and eating quickly.


Unfortunetely right now I havn't eatan properly for the past couple of days due to a situation that has caused me to loose a chick that had high IL, and I'm into her a lot. Its also affected my sleep, I can't settle and find my self turning over constantly throught the night. Its that bad I don't even feel like jackin off (sorry!).

Your stressed out, its normal for your appetite to go down. You need to find a way to change your perspective. Why do you take it so hard when things don't work out?

I have tried just cooking and forcing myself to eat. Its not like I feel full, I feel dry mouthed and everything seems tasteless, even though I'm drinking water throughout the day.

I had a heavy session at the gym yesterday, that didn't kick start it. I just didn't want to eat at all. All I had was one jacket potato earlier in the day. When I got home I just wasn't hunry at all. I forced myself to have a shake (weight gain). Today all I've managed is a small corrn on the cob with one piece of pitta bread.

Its a little bit annoying as my trainer has given me a diet plan, which was only changed a few days ago as I wasn't getting enough carbs causing me to loose muscle mass. This new diet plan has huge portions of rice/pasta etc.

The problem is Im missing these meals or cannot finish them.

Trying to add muscle mass while your stressed out doesn't work well. Let go of that goal for the moment and spend your time getting your lifestyle and emotions in order.

I guess most people comfort eat when there down, I get the oposite. Its a shame I'm on a weight gain program.


For my emotional state I'm doing much as I can today. Normaly a Sunday is my lazy day of the week where I have nothing to do and just chill at home resting. But I can't sit down and let go, I feel all edgy and can't relax finding myself just wondering around the house daydreaming. I've arranged to see some friends, having another workout in a while so I hope that might help so I can feel a bit better and eat.

Again do some soul searching. Look at the big picture. What do you want out of life? How will you make your money? What kind of lifestyle do you want to live? Ask yourself a lot of questions, you just lack direction at the moment but you can get back on course by stepping back and looking at the big picture.

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[kingsam]

stop feeling sorry for yourself... shi.t happens...you learn from it and improve for next time....

 

[Alle_Gory]

Unfortunetely right now I havn't eatan properly for the past couple of days due to a situation that has caused me to loose a chick that had high IL, and I'm into her a lot. Its also affected my sleep, I can't settle and find my self turning over constantly throught the night. Its that bad I don't even feel like jackin off (sorry!).

No. It's not the chick. It probably made the situation worse, but it's not the woman that caused it. Sounds like some adrenal burnout? Probably caused by stress.

I have tried just cooking and forcing myself to eat. Its not like I feel full, I feel dry mouthed and everything seems tasteless, even though I'm drinking water throughout the day.

Your body doesn't want food. If you force it, it will only lead to indigestion.

I had a heavy session at the gym yesterday, that didn't kick start it. I just didn't want to eat at all. All I had was one jacket potato earlier in the day. When I got home I just wasn't hunry at all. I forced myself to have a shake (weight gain).

That's just going to make it worse. If you want to exercise, do it light. Do a warmup, then some isolation exercises, and a cooldown. Stay away from heavy weight and compound exercises when you are stressed out because it will only cause even MORE stress. You can't build muscle under these conditions. If you force your body, you will feel even more like sh*t and probably put on some fat.

I've felt like this before. I thought it was because of a girl, or because of a job, or because of school... but no. It's caused by stress.

Once you start to deal with the source of the stress, you will feel better.

Could it be overtraining?

 

[Neon Owl]

Cannabis could help immensely with your lack of hunger.

Make use of the munchies my friend.

And before anyone flames me for advocating drugs, do your research. Cannabis is not a drug. It is a plant with many, many medicinal uses including helping cancer patients increase their appetite.

 

[ArcBound]

Cannabis, also known as marijuana,[2] marihuana,[3] among many other namesa[›], refers to any number of preparations of the Cannabis plant intended for use as a psychoactive drug.

A psychoactive drug, psychopharmaceutical or psychotropic is a chemical substance that crosses the blood-brain barrier and acts primarily upon the central nervous system where it alters brain function, resulting in changes in perception, mood, consciousness, cognition, and behavior.

It has an affect on your brain, how is it not a drug? Granted there are worse drugs like tobacco its still a drug anyway you cut it lol.

 

[Neon Owl]

Cannabis, also known as marijuana,[2] marihuana,[3] among many other namesa[›], refers to any number of preparations of the Cannabis plant intended for use as a psychoactive drug.

A psychoactive drug, psychopharmaceutical or psychotropic is a chemical substance that crosses the blood-brain barrier and acts primarily upon the central nervous system where it alters brain function, resulting in changes in perception, mood, consciousness, cognition, and behavior.

It has an affect on your brain, how is it not a drug? Granted there are worse drugs like tobacco its still a drug anyway you cut it lol.

Would you call tea leaves a drug? Coffee beans? Hang on while I brew up some drugs lmao

Is a mushroom a drug? Most mushrooms have alkaloids within them that have certain effects on the body when ingested. Some are toxic, some are heavenly.

My point is that you grow it, pick the buds off and dry them, then you smoke them. It is a medicinal plant.

Of course there are active ingredients within the plant that cause the effects we all know and love but there is no extraction process and it is 100% natural.

Plus there's the fact that it is probably one the safest "drugs" known to man. The most pronounced side effects include tiredness and increase in appetite.

Nobody has EVER died from cannabis. To OD on the herb you would have to eat pounds and pounds of the stuff and even then you'd fall asleep way before you could come close to death.
Therefore (in my eyes at least) it is not a drug in the common sense of the word.

 

[ArcBound]

Coffee can be considered a drug but because of the caffeine inside of them
"Caffeine is a bitter, white crystalline xanthine alkaloid that is a psychoactive stimulant drug."

And yes tea is a drug. I'm sure you learned in health class not all drugs are bad or good but "modify a chemical process in the body for a specific purpose"

And thats what cannabis and marijuana does, modifies the normal biological/chemical processes in our body for good or bad. It is a drug in every sense of the word. And unfortunately illegal as well

 

[Alle_Gory]

And yes tea is a drug.

It's got caffeine in it, but I don't know if I would consider it a drug. The concentration of caffeine is very low.

Nobody has EVER died from cannabis. To OD on the herb you would have to eat pounds and pounds of the stuff and even then you'd fall asleep way before you could come close to death.
Therefore (in my eyes at least) it is not a drug in the common sense of the word.

It might not be a bad drug, but it's a drug right up there with nicotine and alcohol.

 

[Duracell_Bunny]

You need to find a way to change your perspective. Why do you take it so hard when things don't work out?

Frustration and loss of control. Sh1t like this always happens when things appear to go well. Its always my own fault for messing up.

It may seem hard for you to understand as you can probably have no problems getting numbers/leads, but for people like me its not as simple as just going out and getting a number. I'm terrible at bringing light small talk and the random banter to the table. Its not like I sound boring or anything, just lack content. I used to be isolated all my life and be very passive. Whenever I do get a number or date, 90% of the time there just 6s that I don't feel attracted to and I'm going through it all for the sake of it.

I understand it is all a learning experience but it feels horrid because I have to wait so long before re-applying what I've learnt to another chick.

I know its going to be months (maybe beyond a year) yet before I find a chick that I find attractive and she has strong interest in me. I don't think its the finding out this particular woman wasn't g/f material, but its the loss of control and having lost all chances at getting things rolling again with her. If I could keep her around, even though I no longer see her as relationship material, I'm sure Id feel fine.

I really do not believe anymore that there are any women out there for me. I feel like they will always cheat when something better comes along then dump you leaving you hurt or simply toy with you, throw sh1t tests and play games all the time for no obvious reason that they think is acceptable, yet if a man did something similar they think its not.

No. It's not the chick. It probably made the situation worse, but it's not the woman that caused it. Sounds like some adrenal burnout? Probably caused by stress...


...Once you start to deal with the source of the stress, you will feel better.

Could it be overtraining?

Thanks for pointing this out. I have looked up a little bit on stress and a very high number of symptoms are there.

Its very strange as I didn't think I was stressed in the first place.

The only thing I can think of and when these symptoms started occurring heavily was back in April when my ex dumped me (first g.f).

When this happened it was a major turning point and life change for me.

Before that time I didn't lead much of a social life (usually seeing about one friend once a week) and felt intimidated in busy places on my own, but the break up made me crave being around people all the time. I still find it hard now to be at home (I live alone). Which is when I started getting the motivation to actively do something when I began to feel lonely and board.

This is the time when I joined the gym, at first I was that shy I didn't even dare go into the free weights section on my own and just went on some equipment in a discreet area. It wasn't until I got personal training when I gained confidence - this is when I changed my diet plan, by cutting alcohol and caffeine. Which made me feel more confident going out on Fri/Sat nights without the drink, but I guess that meant adding to the stress at first by feeling intimated at the gym and a little odd being soba on nights out to clubs/bars, and generally being soba in all social situations.

Got a few dates (first proper dates I've had). Before these dates I was shy and nervous around women unless I was drunk, I guess this is probably what started causing it, while I was happy for getting the dates I was a nervous wreck at first, it felt completely out of place for me. Along with it feeling unusual of having women that were actually interested and initiating contacting me it could have been a bit overwhelming.

Kind of ironic that self improvement has made me feel worse in the long term.

With the training its weights 3 times a week for around and hour, two of these being PT session that are very intense. I also do running (outdoors) for about 15mins twice a week.

The problem is, if training could be adding to the stress I find the gym the most enjoyable thing right now. I get excited about the PT sessions and love the positive atmosphere of the place.

Its also a shame that I've spent a fair bit of cash, its a huge very high quality place that ain't cheap. Along with all the money I've spent on the personal training.

I guess I should make more use of the spa, even going to the gym just on some days just to use it. Especially when I'm feeling a down at home and none of my mates are free.

On these sites it says to withdraw from anything that causes stress. The thing is, withdrawing from dating and the gym would bring me back to rock bottom. Its whats getting me out of the house, I can't see friends etc. every single day, they have there own lives too.

I have tried to get into hobbies etc. but I just don't feel like it and my mind kept wondering. The gym makes me feel like I can get away from it all at the same time improving my appearance.

 

[Duracell_Bunny]

Well I've just called up a 6 (my only available plate) who I've been on two dates with. Last one was a few days ago.

Shes agreed to come over in a bit to watch a film, even though I gave her a choice of going out she chose my place.


Its been 3 months since I've had any pu$$y, lets hope this will be a stress releiving night

 

[EFFORT]

A lot of what I wrote in this post applies to you. Not sure if you have a clinical depression or not (if you don't just ignore the parts about that).

I'll post the main point here

You need to work on yourself. This year needs to be about you, not about trying to get laid. You need to figure yourself and your life out. The first thing you need to do is get your depression +anxiety treated. Go psychiatrist and get on some medications and ask them about group therapy groups.

Figure out your money. Are you in school? Do you have a Job? Get that worked out so you have income coming in. Then move on to the next thing....

Once you have depression+anxiety treatment in the motions add some SOCIALLY INTERACTIVE hobbies to your life. You need to start out with a male only type of hobby. Look for MMA gyms, or any sort of boxing, martial arts in your area. You need to be around ****y, alpha type men in a men only jocky type of environment. Even if your socially awkward, just be authentic with the guys there, be dedicated to the martial art and they'll accept you. After time you'll develop some good friends to go out with.

Once the martial arts are in motion start taking dance classes. It'll be fun even if you suck and you'll start meeting women. You'll get better as well and it'll be helpful in the future.

Again once thats in motion add in some sort of outdoor adventure/camping club or even join a fun softball type league thing

Also look to add in some sort of volunteering like habitat for humanity

You want to have at least 3 main social hobbies your involved with 1 being male only for the most part and at least 1 volunteering gig but don't limit yourself do as many interactive social things as you can.

Once you have your social hobbies in place start adding some by yourself type stuff. Buy a cheap guitar off craigslist and teach yourself how to play over youtube. It'll give you something to do as well during off time. Learn how to cook as well. You can even taking cooking classes or join cooking clubs. Google is your friend when it comes to discovering things.

If your location is a downer then research a new place you'd like to live and come up with a plan to get there. Don't stay in a dead in town that you hate, life is too short.

Anyhow that'll get you moving in the right direction.

For extra inspiration read this http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162396


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1710306&postcount=11

 

[Alle_Gory]

Kind of ironic that self improvement has made me feel worse in the long term.

You've made alot of changes. You should take some time to get used to at least a few of them. You should have something that's comfortable and relaxing. Any hobbies you can fall back on when you're stressed?
Some dietary changes might help, maybe you're missing some essential vitamins. The B-Complex is for stress response for example.

The problem is, if training could be adding to the stress I find the gym the most enjoyable thing right now. I get excited about the PT sessions and love the positive atmosphere of the place.

How do you feel after a workout? Drained and ready to sleep, or just a little warm and maybe sore? Appetite after workouts usually?

On these sites it says to withdraw from anything that causes stress. The thing is, withdrawing from dating and the gym would bring me back to rock bottom.

Not necessarily. If dating is stressing you out, then find another girl. If mates are stressing you out, then find other mates, if the gym is stressing you out, then change the routine.
You don't have to make huge changes. Sometimes even changing the time of day when you exercise will have a big impact, or sleep an extra 30min a day... etc.

But first you have to find the source of the problem before you can fix it. It might even be a few little things compounding together into a bigger issue.

 

[Duracell_Bunny]

Well that 6 I called up came over Monday night to "watch a DVD" and I got the lay.

Shes actually pretty cool, shame shes got a few extra pounds around the edges but she certainly gives a huge amount of effort in the bedroom This did help a little, I got the munchies at 3am when she left. Unfortunately since last night and when I woke up this morning, I couldn't help but feel saddened over that chick I messed up with.

You need to work on yourself. This year needs to be about you, not about trying to get laid. You need to figure yourself and your life out. The first thing you need to do is get your depression +anxiety treated. Go psychiatrist and get on some medications and ask them about group therapy groups.

Figure out your money. Are you in school? Do you have a Job? Get that worked out so you have income coming in. Then move on to the next thing....

I used to suffer from mild depression in my early 20s, I believe that was due to being isolated and having low esteem. But I slowly got through this after going on holiday with a group of people (I only knew one of them at that time), these are still good friends to this day.

All is well with my career and income.

Right now I know am years behind with socializing but I have improved, I want to get out as much as possible to get better at this. I feel 25 is kinda late so its that feeling of "make the most of it while it lasts" sort of thing.

If the ball is rolling with 1 on 1 am OK, but when conversation goes sterile and I've covered loads of topics with this person already I struggle. I no longer get intimidated by people or hot women, I just feel a little bit of anxiety over the small talk running dry quickly. I don't have my head constantly flowing with things I want to say and respond with - this is what I want to get to and is the only thing right now preventing me going further.

Its like I used to be too content in my younger days to stay at home each night locked in my room. I went college for a year and gathered a couple of friends but lost contact. At this time everyone else went off to Uni living the student life.

Ive had a taster of that feeling of being around people in good company, now I want more but conversions take a lot of work.

There are some things in the bible saying not to be on the phone for hours at a time, I'm thinkin - I can't even stay on that long if I wanted to, I hate telephones. I feel much more comfortable in person. Especially text messages, while its nice to receive them from a chick that's initiated one, its a bloody pain when a response is necessary.

As for joining other clubs etc. there are plenty around that I have looked at before although its a time thing as it clashes too much with the sessions at my current gym. I will certainly look again at these later on.

If your location is a downer then research a new place you'd like to live and come up with a plan to get there. Don't stay in a dead in town that you hate, life is too short.

Anyhow that'll get you moving in the right direction.

For extra inspiration read this http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162396


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1710306&postcount=11

I would have liked to move to London, or somewhere bigger but I have too many commitments with work. Its a family business I've been involved with all my life, there retiring soon and hoping to pass it onto me. I don't even want to think about how they'd react if I told them I'm leaving and how that would make me feel.

You've made alot of changes. You should take some time to get used to at least a few of them. You should have something that's comfortable and relaxing. Any hobbies you can fall back on when you're stressed?

I've got a heavily planted aquarium I could spend more time on. It does take a lot of maintenance but when its kept up the sight is very rewarding and leaves visitors to my house in awe. Its very relaxing just to site there and staring at it.

Other than that I could get back into DJing, although I can't do this too often due to my tinnitus that I got from it years ago.

The other thing that I like is just cutting off from the world, turning off my phone etc. and getting engrossed in good blu-ray on my cinema set up. Although when I get down I find this probably makes me worse as I find it hard to concentrate with my mind going in other places.

Some dietary changes might help, maybe you're missing some essential vitamins. The B-Complex is for stress response for example.

If it helps, this is the personalised plan I've been given - diet plan
. This used to lack in veg and only had small amounts of green beans but was changed last week. Off the top of my head the last weigh in was 11st 8, muscle mass 9st 5 and body fat 10.9%.

How do you feel after a workout? Drained and ready to sleep, or just a little warm and maybe sore? Appetite after workouts usually?

Usually just a little warm, not sore more a less pumped. I used to get very sore but this no longer happens, even with very heavy weights. I get a little bit sleepy a couple of hours after the workout. I usually feel drained the day after.

When I first started I used to get absolutely starving. Then I started getting hungry throughout the day as well. Since the mishap with the chick, its all gone wrong and I don't feel at all. I've also noticed I'm getting dehydrated more easily.

Not necessarily. If dating is stressing you out, then find another girl. If mates are stressing you out, then find other mates, if the gym is stressing you out, then change the routine.

You don't have to make huge changes. Sometimes even changing the time of day when you exercise will have a big impact, or sleep an extra 30min a day... etc.

But first you have to find the source of the problem before you can fix it. It might even be a few little things compounding together into a bigger issue.

Lucklily I have another girl that I slept with for the first time the other night, but I feel like I'm lowering myself (don't get me wrong shes a great person. not ugly/a whale or anything, just her body and overall appearance could do with some work and is not really to my preference). I'd hate to think how I would feel if I didn't keep her on the back burner.

I have two holidays in a weeks time, one for a long weekend on the coast. The weekend after for a lads holiday in Ayia Napa. Maybe see how I feel after these.

I really am baffled as to what the source of the problem could be, theres a couple of niggles at work but its nothing major. My house is always clean and spotless. I had problems sleeping some time ago, the bedroom has nothing electronic in there, its all very cosy with a very large bed that has an expensive matteress on it thats just far too comfy. Usually I sleep about midnight, find myself waking up around 7:30-8am. But I'm that lazy I can never get out of bed by 9:30. Work is at 10am, but its just a 5 min drive.

To be honest the only time I get might get stressed is when I'm unsure whats happening at the weekend, e.g. I worry that no friends will be out and I'll have to stay in.

 

[Quiksilver]

You lose your appetite (aside from when full) when you're stressed and your body releases certain hormones into your bloodstream.

Good ways to combat this are:

obviously fix the stressful element in your life.

go to sleep/wake up at regular times, takes a while to get the habit.

eat at regular times, and if you're eating bland food, add something you really enjoy.

drink lots of water

pour a hot bath, when it's ready jump into a very cold shower then into the hot bath. this is very relaxing and will alleviate some of the stress

enjoy life

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I am never hungry around exam periods due to the stress, it's always a killer for me.