Stop talking about up looks, MONEY and status?

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Your premise is a complete straw man (or an attempt to set up a straw man.) Any intelligent mind here can observe this through your statements and assertions.

My curiosity really is this:

Why is @Urbanyst so heavily invested in this video?

I could care less what the video says or doesn't say...it doesn't affect me personally just as it doesn't affect anybody else here personally who has sufficient self assurance to understand that such a video has no bearing on their personal reality.

For a man with a theory is never at the mercy of a man with experience.

You spout theories. Those here with experience don't see things the same way because of personal experience...and you find this maddening because failure of people on the board to agree with your theory...your belief system by proxy...is intolerable to you.

So while you cling to your theories (belief system), others are out having success that is not consistent with what you believe & clang on about...

And you fail to recognize how shrill and inexperienced this makes you appear.

Holy smokes !

OP got owned by a women....

Muahahahahaha
 

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A high value man that can attract a lot of hot women through LMS is no longer going to focus solely on looks. You stop looking for just hot and you start looking for more.

Bottom line is, a man with LMS doesn't try to attract hot anymore. He tries to screen the hot women he already gets and eliminates the ones that have nothing more than that. He becomes more selective.

You show absolutely no signs of this. You're so fixated on LMS and you avoid all conversations that go beyond it; conversations that entail how to display LMS in regards to screening for higher quality; for women beyond "hot".

That's a sign of a man who does not consistently attract hot women.
BINGO!!!

I doubt the guy gets any at all, he posts way to much and it's all theory rhetoric which has been done millions of times since the mystery method days
 

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A high value man that can attract a lot of hot women through LMS is no longer going to focus solely on looks. You stop looking for just hot and you start looking for more.

Bottom line is, a man with LMS doesn't try to attract hot anymore. He tries to screen the hot women he already gets and eliminates the ones that have nothing more than that. He becomes more selective.

You show absolutely no signs of this. You're so fixated on LMS and you avoid all conversations that go beyond it; conversations that entail how to display LMS in regards to screening for higher quality; for women beyond "hot".

That's a sign of a man who does not consistently attract hot women.
Horse sh*t. Everyone's different clown.

There is a reason why you fools can't stop talking about Urbanyst and get so angry at Urbanyst. You're BLUE PILL and you can't dispute my arguments or my videos.

Lol.
 

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BINGO!!!

I doubt the guy gets any at all, he posts way to much and it's all theory rhetoric which has been done millions of times since the mystery method days
Score Board

Video = 1
Disputes = 0


Video for the win.

The more angry you BLUE PILL clowns get, the more I will talk about LMS and posts videos and articles that support it.

Suck it snowflakes.
 

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Why don't you guys just call a truce? After all this is only the stupid internet. You don't get an award for winning here. You both have made valid points. You both have ego's. There is nothing more to gain here. Just let it slide and get your pu$$y lined up for the weekend! :D
 

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Once again.. an argument that does not attack the CONTENT of the video at all lol. Rather you attack the people who made the video.

You need to brake down the CONTENT and explain how and why its wrong.

Thanks.
That isn’t how you make arguments, dumbass. Anyone with a college education understands how BibleBelt said the vid was wrong. Shows how you clearly have none. Attack the people in the video? He said they didn’t have any research because they didn’t cite anything. They just SAID there was science, not that there actually was. That’s what Prince Ea does with his feel-good bull**** hype. Good message perhaps, but completely lacking in evidence. Just like this video.

Want to know how to ACTUALLY make scientific arguments? Prove to US how it is right. Don’t tell us to prove it wrong. That’s not what science is. Anyone who has taken a college-level science class in the past 25 years knows that. Shoot, they teach this stuff to 8th graders (in one ear, out the other, but taught nonetheless lol). It’s done when everyone learned about the Scientific Process.

Did you know that when people eat more ice cream, instances of drowning go up as well? This is an actual fact. You can find it quite easily. The reason why this was done was to show fools like you not to make generalized arguments. Would the solution to prevent people from drowning be to stop selling ice cream? That’s stupid. But that’s what the evidence shows. In real life, 1+1 ≠ 2. Why? Because there are an innumerable amount of variables that need to be taken into consideration.

How about this, did you know that breathing in oxygen can cause cancer? It’s a true fact. Oxygen basically allows the electrons in the ETC to keep transferring over to the next stage in order produce ATP. ATP is the universal source of energy. This allows cells to divide and replicate. So if we stop ATP production via asphyxiation, we can prevent cancer! Yeah, let’s see how long you can last with oxygen. Humans have about 7 minutes worth of ATP before we just die.

How about this proposal: prove to us how LMS is right. Don’t tell us to prove it wrong. That’s what *actual* SCIENCE is, by the way. Also, personal anecdotes are absolutely meaningless in science. That is what the whole video basically is (hence why BB said it was bull****)
 

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Why don't you guys just call a truce? After all this is only the stupid internet. You don't get an award for winning here. You both have made valid points. You both have ego's. There is nothing more to gain here. Just let it slide and get your pu$$y lined up for the weekend! :D
”Y’all need some pussy” - Howiestern, 2018.

Hahahahaha
 

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Why don't you guys just call a truce? After all this is only the stupid internet. You don't get an award for winning here. You both have made valid points. You both have ego's. There is nothing more to gain here. Just let it slide and get your pu$$y lined up for the weekend! :D
I want guys to stop wasting their time believing in PUA fantasies. Its counter productive.

Telling people sh*t they don't like will always get you attacked. I'm not at war with anyone here. I'm only at war with the BLUE PILL and those who perpetuate the nonsense of "game" over VALUE.

I feel sorry for Blue Pill guys and I understand their anger. They are shooting the messenger, but deep down they know my words are true. I already got my sh*t together. Now I'm sharing how and why I have so many dating options now. People don't want to believe it or accept it.. that's on them.
 

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In Chris Colombus's day everybody believed the world was flat too.

His EXPERIENCE showed otherwise.

I notice you cannot debate the content of my post, nor the content of @Bible_Belt in his post nor the content of @taiyuu_otoko in his post.

So carry on about the video. My stance on it is

AND?

I'll make popcorn.
 

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In Chris Colombus's day everybody believed the world was flat too.

His EXPERIENCE showed otherwise.

I notice you cannot debate the content of my post, nor the content of @Bible_Belt in his post nor the content of @taiyuu_otoko in his post.

So carry on about the video. My stance on it is

AND?

I'll make popcorn.
You know what @BeExcellent I will gladly debate the content of your post and everyone else AFTER you dispute the video.

My thread. My topic. Play ball or go sit in a corner.

Score board

Video = 1
Blue Pill clowns = 0


Video for the win.
 

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OK, the video has some decent points, looks, money, status, is what attracts women. But it's not a cause and effect issue. Looks, money, status, won't make women suddenly discover what they have been missing their whole lives, they won't suddenly
knock on your door Friday night and do everything for you, they wont apologize for missing having sex with you their whole lives.

What more important is your time and your AGE. The people you meet when you are younger and establish bonds with is way more important than an extra $100,000 in your account.

I won't stop talking about LMS until someone successfully disputes this video with science. Want to shut me up? Give me a reason to shut up.
Come on bro, how is the video "scientific" itself? They ask some random 30+ year olds in the street, "Which guy would you have sex with?" "This one, he is sexier!" How is that based on science?

You are asking us to dispute something scientifically when the actual thing we are disputing isn't scientific itself. o_O
 

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You should post some anti-vaxxer and flat earth vids while you're at it. Here's a new word for you :

sophistry
ˈsɒfɪstri/
noun
  1. the use of clever but false arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.
    "trying to argue that I had benefited in any way from the disaster was pure sophistry"
    • a fallacious argument.
      plural noun: sophistries
      synonyms: specious reasoning, the use of fallacious arguments, sophism, casuistry, quibbling, equivocation, fallaciousness
Have you ever seen an attractive woman with an average or even unattractive man? Cos I have a bunch. Hell, I know a guy who's been dating a HB9 for a decade and he's gone from average looking to kinda chubby. Damn he's got game though. How do you explain that? I've personally seen the quality of women I can attract improve dramatically over my decade long journey. Clearly game does something. I'm not sure what you're obsession is all about because I haven't seen anyone on here ever claim you shouldn't improve your appearance as much as possible. It's one of the easiest ways to improve your game. I'm not sure how you get from that to, "game is blue pill"? Like... what?

You make the most ludicrous posts and expect people to challenge them but it's like trying to have a rational debate about flat earth theory. If someone is just stating that their belief is fact, there's no where to go. I'm not sure what your intent is but you don't really add much to the conversation. Yes, LMS matters. That doesn't mean game doesn't. It's not that hard to understand. I've known 9 and 10 guys who have terrible confidence and sucked with women. That's not that wild a concept, right? So, therefore LMS cannot be the entire story.
 

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Well, I will bite...

Let's start with money and status, because the video really only talks about looks and grazes over money and status....

Money -
The argument - Money makes men appear more attractive, which comprises all of 20 seconds of a 10-minute video
The "evidence" - Based against a "lab test" (what lab test? What empirical evidence? How many respondents? etc etc), this gentleman went from a 4 to a 7 or 8, based on 3 women. Did they taking a sample of 1000 women, or how about even 10 women? Did the women represent the same socioeconomic status? Did they show 10 different women the picture without his salary, and then 10 different women the picture with salary?
The reality - the video displays absolutely no "proof" or tangible evidence to support their claim... Show me a well-thought out experiment, something like 3 gentleman of various genetic makeup, have two pictures of each, one with salary and one without. Take a random sample of 600 women of varying socio-economic status, race, and marital status. Then show each picture to 100 of the women. Then compare results...

And then ask yourself? Will any jamoke reveal his salary before meeting a woman?

Status -
The argument - I have absolutely no clue. They don't mention anything, other than showing a video of Justin Bieber approaching some random women. $hit, I would probably react the same way to meeting a celebrity.
The evidence - absolutely nothing... please point it out cause I can't find it
The reality - 30 seconds of useless commentary...

So, you just went from LMS to L. I am only going to look at the first couple arguments, cause the rest is just as nonsensical.

Looks -
I'll get to it if I get bored but it's more of the same nonsense...

Next time, it would be better if you just said "hey guys I made this lame video. Tell me what you think"
 

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If someone is just stating that their belief is fact, there's no where to go.
Game. Set. Match.

I'm pleased I am not the only one who sees the flaw in the entire premise, which tries to set up the straw man (and doesn't do a terribly clever job of it either) and then tries to get us debating beliefs rather than facts. People here (even a chick or two - blasphemy!!) are smarter than that!

Never argue over someone else's belief system. This is the same reason men here routinely tell red pill guys that trying to explain TRP to blue pill men is futile. In such an instance you are persuading against a deeply held belief. Hard core feminists are another good example. Good luck changing their beliefs with a rational conversation. Conversations around belief systems get emotional and irrational at light speed. See thread for observational proof of this phenomena :rolleyes:.

I'm a flipping research scientist & executive in the health care space for crying out loud. The notion that this video is the least bit scientific is uninformed at best and to me, quite funny. My statisticians would split their sides laughing.
 

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It's funny that they have Tyler from RSD on that video saying that "Looks don't do anything", that it isn't even a nice bonus. I think he's since backed off from that stance, however. It used to be that "Looks don't matter" was a key aspect of PUA theory though. When I first came here you would get your post deleted if you said looks matter.

Regarding the idea that women are not as visual as men: I don't think the point is that women are not visual at all, clearly they are. It only makes sense that they respond to visual clues of testosterone and good health. I think the point is that women are not as visual as men. And I don't see how they could possibly be as visual as men. Because with men, attraction is nearly 100% looks. We don't care at all about a woman's money or status usually, but women do. So as a percentage, there's no way women could be as visual as men.

That's not to say things like personality are not important to men, it's just that it's not really part of the attraction phase. Once attraction is established, then each person applies his or her own filters, depending on what is important to them. But for men, we can usually tell if we are attracted to a girl just by looking at her. From there she may qualify or disqualify herself.

I know several girls that I have always been physically attracted to, but from a personality standpoint, I just don't like them. Funny how that works.
 

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Lol now wonder you received so much back lash. I lot of guys on this site are closet blue pills
 

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You should post some anti-vaxxer and flat earth vids while you're at it. Here's a new word for you :

sophistry
ˈsɒfɪstri/
noun
  1. the use of clever but false arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.
    "trying to argue that I had benefited in any way from the disaster was pure sophistry"
    • a fallacious argument.
      plural noun: sophistries
      synonyms: specious reasoning, the use of fallacious arguments, sophism, casuistry, quibbling, equivocation, fallaciousness
Have you ever seen an attractive woman with an average or even unattractive man? Cos I have a bunch. Hell, I know a guy who's been dating a HB9 for a decade and he's gone from average looking to kinda chubby. Damn he's got game though. How do you explain that? I've personally seen the quality of women I can attract improve dramatically over my decade long journey. Clearly game does something. I'm not sure what you're obsession is all about because I haven't seen anyone on here ever claim you shouldn't improve your appearance as much as possible. It's one of the easiest ways to improve your game. I'm not sure how you get from that to, "game is blue pill"? Like... what?

You make the most ludicrous posts and expect people to challenge them but it's like trying to have a rational debate about flat earth theory. If someone is just stating that their belief is fact, there's no where to go. I'm not sure what your intent is but you don't really add much to the conversation. Yes, LMS matters. That doesn't mean game doesn't. It's not that hard to understand. I've known 9 and 10 guys who have terrible confidence and sucked with women. That's not that wild a concept, right? So, therefore LMS cannot be the entire story.
LMS is not the entire story.

There is also the bio clock and the WALL to take into consideration. Math is another factor. How many men with looks, MONEY and status are there compared to HOT women? How many of those men are willing to commit in a relationship with a woman post WALL?

If you blue pill clowns would stay on topic and stop making the conversation about Urbanyst, we might actually have an interesting and informative discussion here. Too bad most of you are afraid of the facts and try to deny any red pill truth that doesn't boost your ego lol.
 

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Well, I will bite...

Let's start with money and status, because the video really only talks about looks and grazes over money and status....

Money -
The argument - Money makes men appear more attractive, which comprises all of 20 seconds of a 10-minute video
The "evidence" - Based against a "lab test" (what lab test? What empirical evidence? How many respondents? etc etc), this gentleman went from a 4 to a 7 or 8, based on 3 women. Did they taking a sample of 1000 women, or how about even 10 women? Did the women represent the same socioeconomic status? Did they show 10 different women the picture without his salary, and then 10 different women the picture with salary?
The reality - the video displays absolutely no "proof" or tangible evidence to support their claim... Show me a well-thought out experiment, something like 3 gentleman of various genetic makeup, have two pictures of each, one with salary and one without. Take a random sample of 600 women of varying socio-economic status, race, and marital status. Then show each picture to 100 of the women. Then compare results...

And then ask yourself? Will any jamoke reveal his salary before meeting a woman?

Status -
The argument - I have absolutely no clue. They don't mention anything, other than showing a video of Justin Bieber approaching some random women. $hit, I would probably react the same way to meeting a celebrity.
The evidence - absolutely nothing... please point it out cause I can't find it
The reality - 30 seconds of useless commentary...

So, you just went from LMS to L. I am only going to look at the first couple arguments, cause the rest is just as nonsensical.

Looks -
I'll get to it if I get bored but it's more of the same nonsense...

Next time, it would be better if you just said "hey guys I made this lame video. Tell me what you think"
You actually have to argue the CONTENT itself. You can't just b*tch about how it is presented lol.

Weak.

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