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Hey guys.. need some advice on steroids. No I dont need advice on whether to take them or not.. Ive done research and Im going to do it the safe way.. i just need advice on what to take.. where to get it.. cycles..ETC.

I was never a big fan of steroids but from what I read, a cycle is not harmful and if done right can actually have benfits.

My weight is 183.. 5' 9". BF% 13-15%. Im not fat ..actually look too skinny.. just would like to get rid of this flab on my belly and show the abs.

Ive tried soooooooooooo hard to diet and excercise for 2 months straight and have seen minimal results. I now have a new job and I just dont have enough time.

I dont need anything extreme.. just something to boost my metabolism and add some muscle quicker then normal. A lot of people have told me testosterone ester....but what else? And where exactly do I get it? Online? Oral? Liquid injection??

Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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I think this is shocking. Do you even know that pct is? Ontop of that, you ask the h+f forum instead of going to a steroids discussion forum. From what you just said, no you are definately not ready. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but if you dont even know how to train and eat properly to gain or lose weight, steroids is not for you. Tha gains you make on steroids, you'll end up loosing.

That said, have you heard of the trainingprincipals like 5x5, HST and DC? They're good trainingprograms that ads big slabs of muscle if you eat enough. Google any of them, and you'll find information. Easyest to do and understand is 5x5 while DC is the most complicated of the three. But also the most effective.
 

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Misconceptions of steroid use:

One of the biggest problems in today's society is that people are always looking for the quick fix. We are all influenced by television and magazine adds that's why they are there. Everyone should keep in mind the old saying "If it sounds too good, it is probably a lie." The fact is: there is no miracle pill or drug that you can take to change your body composition overnight (or in a few weeks for that matter). If you aren't satisfied with yourself and want to make a change, the ONLY way is to work at it. You must keep a healthy lifestyle!!! Only after you have a healthy diet, workout, sleep schedule, and the ability to keep it consistent, will supplements help you. This goes for steroids as well. Of course, some supplements, like andro products, creatine, and protein meal replacements, will be of some benefit to someone who may not have everything in place but, they are still not going to help to their full capacity. You have to help them help you. You have to feed your body well, so they can be used to their full potential.
Steroids will only be a true benefit to a person who has paid the price of time and hard work in the gym. A person who hasn't, will certainly see gains after using a steroid correctly, however, the chance of them being quality gains is very low and the person will certainly loose the bulk of them. In short, nothing, not even steroids, can change the way you look in the long run without hard work and discipline.
 
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BigDude22 said:
Hey guys.. need some advice on steroids. No I dont need advice on whether to take them or not.. Ive done research and Im going to do it the safe way.. i just need advice on what to take.. where to get it.. cycles..ETC.

I was never a big fan of steroids but from what I read, a cycle is not harmful and if done right can actually have benfits.

My weight is 183.. 5' 9". BF% 13-15%. Im not fat ..actually look too skinny.. just would like to get rid of this flab on my belly and show the abs.

Ive tried soooooooooooo hard to diet and excercise for 2 months straight and have seen minimal results. I now have a new job and I just dont have enough time.

I dont need anything extreme.. just something to boost my metabolism and add some muscle quicker then normal. A lot of people have told me testosterone ester....but what else? And where exactly do I get it? Online? Oral? Liquid injection??

Any advice would be appreciated.
Well, the thing is that since it is a banned substance it is not stardardized or certified in any way. You could be getting water for your "T-Injections" or some other ****. You never know.

And you've been working out for two months? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Of course you have mininal results. Steroids with poor training and poor diet won't have much of an effect. Steroids just amplify what work you are doing.

Steroids are not magic. You will not magically wake up buff.

Oh well, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. I really don't care to. Just make sure that you have gotten the correct info otherwise you might end up with no balls, man tits, and a high squeaky voice like a 4 year old chinese girl if you don't do it properly.
 
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flippinfreak said:
Misconceptions of steroid use:

One of the biggest problems in today's society is that people are always looking for the quick fix. We are all influenced by television and magazine adds that's why they are there. Everyone should keep in mind the old saying "If it sounds too good, it is probably a lie." The fact is: there is no miracle pill or drug that you can take to change your body composition overnight (or in a few weeks for that matter). If you aren't satisfied with yourself and want to make a change, the ONLY way is to work at it. You must keep a healthy lifestyle!!! Only after you have a healthy diet, workout, sleep schedule, and the ability to keep it consistent, will supplements help you. This goes for steroids as well. Of course, some supplements, like andro products, creatine, and protein meal replacements, will be of some benefit to someone who may not have everything in place but, they are still not going to help to their full capacity. You have to help them help you. You have to feed your body well, so they can be used to their full potential.
Steroids will only be a true benefit to a person who has paid the price of time and hard work in the gym. A person who hasn't, will certainly see gains after using a steroid correctly, however, the chance of them being quality gains is very low and the person will certainly loose the bulk of them. In short, nothing, not even steroids, can change the way you look in the long run without hard work and discipline.


NOOOO!!! YOU ARE WRONG SIR!!!! SOOO WRONG!!!

STEROIDS ARE THA SHIAT!! Man when I was on the roids, I bought a cup full and I just injected that stuff into me with a funnel!!! I was soooooo pumped, then I went to the gym and I lifted SOOOOO much weight that everyone was like "whoa!! Did you just lift all that weight??" and I was like "whoa, yeah dude, I did lift all that weight" and then.....

SO anyway, after the workout I see this hot little number with her sister just siting there by the exit. So I'm like "hey baby! wanna see my guns?" and she's like "*giggle* of course *giggle". So then I pull up my sleeve and my arm was SOOOOO RIPPED!!! And she's like "let's go to your place" and then she brought her sister along too!!!

Man life is sooooo much better after steroids. I get all the biatches now!! I go to the grocery store, class, the gym, and let's not even mention bars and clubs!! They throw their pu$$y at me!!

Steroids changed my life. I am now buff, ripped, jacked and I got all the hotties!!! All youse guys who try to eat properly and train properly? THAT'S FO THA SUCKAS!!! Alls you need is a bucket of roids and PRESTO! Like magic! 20min and you're good to go!! Who cares about hard work??!! No one needs none of that! Where has hard work ever gotten you? Alls you needs is roids.

:rockon:
 

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BigDude22 said:
Ive tried soooooooooooo hard to diet and excercise for 2 months straight and have seen minimal results. I now have a new job and I just dont have enough time.
This is your problem. You cannot expect to see any dramatic results in 2 months and if you don't have time, you have to make time. No one said getting in shape is easy, but if you want the pay off, the work will be worth it. The ONLY way to get in shape and stay in shape is to alter your lifestyle.

I'm not going to cover the side effects and risks of steroids as I'm sure you've read about them and consider the risk worth it, but I will point out that once you take them you will STILL need to hit the gym regularly, yet harder and more often. Steroids are performance enhancing drugs, not a performance subsitute. All those juiced up bodybuilders are still hitting the gym and dieting religiously to maintain their physique...and once they stop, they end up looking like Arnie does these days: http://www.diet-blog.com/archives/arnold3.jpg
 
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NOOOO!!! YOU ARE WRONG SIR!!!! SOOO WRONG!!!

STEROIDS ARE THA SHIAT!! Man when I was on the roids, I bought a cup full and I just injected that stuff into me with a funnel!!! I was soooooo pumped, then I went to the gym and I lifted SOOOOO much weight that everyone was like "whoa!! Did you just lift all that weight??" and I was like "whoa, yeah dude, I did lift all that weight" and then.....

SO anyway, after the workout I see this hot little number with her sister just siting there by the exit. So I'm like "hey baby! wanna see my guns?" and she's like "*giggle* of course *giggle". So then I pull up my sleeve and my arm was SOOOOO RIPPED!!! And she's like "let's go to your place" and then she brought her sister along too!!!

Man life is sooooo much better after steroids. I get all the biatches now!! I go to the grocery store, class, the gym, and let's not even mention bars and clubs!! They throw their pu$$y at me!!

Steroids changed my life. I am now buff, ripped, jacked and I got all the hotties!!! All youse guys who try to eat properly and train properly? THAT'S FO THA SUCKAS!!! Alls you need is a bucket of roids and PRESTO! Like magic! 20min and you're good to go!! Who cares about hard work??!! No one needs none of that! Where has hard work ever gotten you? Alls you needs is roids.

:rockon:
ROFL :crackup: I guess u were drunk when you wrote this. So did your balls actualy shrink? I also heard that your d*ck guess skinny too. The only reason I won't take steroids is it decreases your load! :cry:
 

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The only time to even consider juice is after a few years of hard training,hard eating,and hard lifting.

even if you did nail your diet and exercise,and gain loads your body will not be able to deal with the gained mass and as soon as you stop you will lose it all.

also you might damage your testo production for ever/stunt your growth
how old are you?
 

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I'm not even going to point out all the bad sh1t that's going to happen if you decide to use gear at this age.
 

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Dont be a dum ass and use steroids!! They will ruin everything, and then its NOT safe!!!! Dont tell us thats u found a way!!! NO man there is no safe way to use em!! They r like drugs, u get addicted to em and then bad **** starts to happen to u!!
 

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brucevangeorge said:
Can you tell if I was being serious in my previous post?





I can't.

DUDE i thought u were joking and i hope u were!! Steroids changed ur life?? U get muscle for working!! Just couse u used steroids doesnt mean ur **** gonna ggrow like apples!! U have to WORK to get muscles and steroids only makes it faster!!
 

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lol shydude, learn to take a hint man
 

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drugs are bad, mmmkay?

you shouldn't even be thinking of steroids unless you've been lifting for 3+ years, benching like 300+, done your own research, etc...

do steroids now and you will most likely fvck up on execution, wont work out/eat/supplement properly and basically you will mess up your body, lose all your gains and so on. In a month after a cycle you will be back to the lazy mess that you are now.

Seriously, how easy is this sh!t?

Lift HEAVY (i mean like heavy enough so that you can barely walk after a workout)
stick to COMPOUND exercises (bench, squat, deads)
eat TONS (become a protein wh0re)
rest

repeat for about 6 months and i guarantee results.
 
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Egoist said:
drugs are bad, mmmkay?

you shouldn't even be thinking of steroids unless you've been lifting for 3+ years, benching like 300+, done your own research, etc...

do steroids now and you will most likely fvck up on execution, wont work out/eat/supplement properly and basically you will mess up your body, lose all your gains and so on. In a month after a cycle you will be back to the lazy mess that you are now.

Seriously, how easy is this sh!t?

Lift HEAVY (i mean like heavy enough so that you can barely walk after a workout)
stick to COMPOUND exercises (bench, squat, deads)
eat TONS (become a protein wh0re)
rest

repeat for about 6 months and i guarantee results.

Drugs are okay?

The reason you tell newbies that drugs are bad is the same reason you tell kids not to play with fire.... think about it.
 

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brucevangeorge said:
Drugs are okay?

The reason you tell newbies that drugs are bad is the same reason you tell kids not to play with fire.... think about it.

the question you should ask is whether I even care.

I am sure he is going to find and do steroids.. yeah. :crackup:
 
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Egoist said:
the question you should ask is whether I even care.

I am sure he is going to find and do steroids.. yeah. :crackup:
Good point. He's probly going to end up getting vials of water, or some sewage runoff labelled as test... or hell, even tic tacs. You never know what you are getting unless you have reliable sources.
 
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