A good buddy of mine just split with his wife and has been feeling pretty down about it. I got him turned on to this site to help him get his AFC a$$ turned around. I've been feeling pretty stoked about the Weapons of Mass Seduction post by Senor Fingers lately so I decided to go visit my buddy and help him get back in the game. Here is a little story about the two of us in a restaurant that demonstrates the States of Seduction.
What are the States of Seduction? Nothing new really. You'll notice in Finger's post that the table of contents is laid out very specifically and he tells you to read from start to finish. He leads you through these States. This is what you are trying to do in any seduction attempt is lead her through these states.
States of seduction
1. Initial state: Fingers doesn't really go into this one but it is basically the state that your target is in before you approach. You have no control over this. It is dependant on who she is, what kind of day she had . Is she happy, energetic, or feeling down, sad, angry, etc. Now this is important because you have to try and read the state she is in and modify your approach accordingly. As soon as you approach you are attempting to lead her to the next state.
2. Interest state: This is where "openers" come in. You have to open the conversation with something to capture her interest. Just a "Hi" isn't your best option unless you've got something pretty good to follow up with. The goal is to get her talking and be interested in you and what you are saying.
3. Attraction state Or being Magnetic as Fingers says. This is where you demonstrate your value. She knows you're confident because you had the balls to approach. This is where you smooth her with your C+F routines, push pull tactics, storytelling, kino, fun loving attitude, etc.
4. Rapport state: You must make a connection with her. Elicit values from her, find out how she feels about things. Start out with fluff and then progress to more internal, deep topics. Then you listen to what she says and respond by feeding back what she just said to you but in a different way. The effect is she tells you something *special* or about herself and you basically feed it back to her and show that you feel the same way. A connection is made! Your kino should be escalating a bit here.
5. Sexual state: You've got to make a move sometime. Do a search and read the Gunwitch Method. You place yourself in a sexual state. Let her know thru eye contact (triangular gazing: eyes, lips, neck) and kino and the expression on your face that you are turned on and want her. Wait for her to show her sexual state. Then isolate. Go for it bro!
Wow this is getting long. Time for the story already!
We're finishing dinner and thoughout we've been discussing Sosuave. Around the time we're going to leave two hotties come in and sit near us. HB8 and HB7. We get some smiles and eye contact and I decided we're going over. So far we've determined in 5 minutes by eyecontact and the friendly smiles that they're Initial state is good and maybe just from looking at us they've already got some interest.
Interest state We get up like we're leaving and both of them immediately look our way. So this is a good sign too. We approach the table with big smiles.
Slick: Hi there! Don't mean to bother you but my friend and I just have to ask you two something... (let it hang there until they say something. Get them hooked)
HB8: What's that?
Slick: How long have you two known each other?
HB8 and 7 look at each other and then back at us: About 8 years why?
Slick: My friend Chad and I here have just been talking about how you can tell through body language and stuff whether or not people are just acquaintences or old friends.
HB7: Oh really. And what did you think about us?
Slick: I could tell you were old friends right away but Chad wasn't so sure.
HB8: How?
Slick: Do you want to do the "Best friend" test?
HB8 and 7: Sure!
Slick: Okay. First question. Do you both use the same brand shampoo?
HB8 and 7 look at each other and it turns out to be no.
Slick: Well your answer doesn't really matter. What matters is the fact that the two of you looked at each other when I asked you the question. And this tells me that you two are close friends. If not you wouldn't have broken eye contact with me when you answered.
Both HB's: (Laughs) Cool that's really interesting!
So we've got them interested and without asking just sit at their booth with them. (By the way I stole that opener ) Luckily for us they were just ordering drinks and appetizers so we weren't intruding on dinner and we ordered some more drinks too.
So we're now in the Attraction state. This post could go forever if I kept typing dialogue but I wanted you guys to hear that opener cuz I thought is was good. So we did the basic intro's and found out about where everyone was from and what plans were for the night. I told a funny story about a transvestite we saw earlier in the night. He had dropped his purse and everything went everywhere and here's this hairy old man in a dress on his hands and knees picking stuff off the floor. My buddy Chad had obviously been reading some things about C+F because he had them laughing too. I was sitting by the HB8 and teased her a little bit and started kino by giving her little elbow shots when I did. She responded favorably by grabbing my arm. This playful banter went on for awhile and it naturally got to the point where we split into two separate conversations.
Rapport state I turned to face HB8 and when I did I put my hand on her leg for a second and I asked her how she liked the city. She had already told me she was from out of town and lived on a farm. She went on about how she liked the city but at heart she was a country girl. I mirrored her thoughts by telling her that I too was from a small town and although I like the city I definately miss the laid back atmosphere of the country. She started telling me about her horses and how she does equestrian (horse jumping) and I told her some stories about riding horses on my uncle's farm as a child. Again feeding her stuff back to her with my spin on it. I could tell that attraction was really good. Eye contact was mesmerizing and she kept playing with her hair. All my kino attempts were reciprocated. I was playing footsies with her under the table and we had held hands a few times. I kept pulling away though with that hand to drink my beer. Kino retreat as Fingers would call it.
Sexual state While we were talking and building rapport I simply stepped up my eye contact. But only when I could tell that I was getting a real good connection with her. I started the triangular gazing thing. Look at her eyes, then her lips, then her neck. All in a sensual kind of way. While doing this I was gently stroking her hand under the table. She was now mirroring ME! I could see her eyes doing the same thing! Important* Once at this point you have to lay off the rapport building. You can't have her too immersed in thought when you are trying to get her sexual. So I started directing the conversation to fluff kind of topics. About 5 minutes later she says she's going to the bathroom. I follow and say I have to go too. On the way I was making conversation about the types of pictures on the walls in the male bathroom and how they are probably different than what's in the female's. So by the time we got there she was interested in seeing what was in the guys bathroom. I showed her and then she took me in the womens and showed me. We laughed cuz in the guy's there were chicks in bathing suits and in the girl's there were sailboats and puppy dogs.
Right when we were laughing I turned her to me pulled her close and gave her a long kiss. We kind of freaked being in the girls bathroom so we went into one of the stalls. We made out passionately. I had my hands stroking her back and chest for a while and then I made my move down below. One hand down the front of her pants and one down the back. Someone came in! We stopped for a minute, smiled and the fact we had to be so quiet made it more dangerous, more passionate. Shortly after that person left I believe she *came* right there in the bathroom stall. LOL what a romantic scene! She seemed a little embarrassed after she orgasmed and said "I can't believe this!" We decided we should get back to the table quickly and we'd go separately not to attract suspicion.
We were razzed at the table for taking so long but we pulled it off saying we were checking out the art in the bathrooms. It was true!
The girls were meeting some friends later and I could read their silent girl signals that we weren't welcome. Maybe they were meeting their boyfriends or something. Right away I announced that Chad and I had to go too. We said our "nice meeting you's" and both of us number closed. I gave HB8 a quick peck on the lips and said bye. I saw HB7 give her a big glare so I think they probably were going to meet boyfriends. Whatever.
Anyways I hope that wasn't too long and boring. I just wanted to demonstrate the idea of leading a chick thru the different states with a real life example. It takes time and you have to be able to read where she's at before you go to the next state. If you try and skip a state or rush it too quick you're going to fail. This one was really easy. Surprised me! I believe that she went through the interest, attraction, and rapport states really quickly. Funny how that works. If she's really attracted to you right from the start just from your looks she may just skip some states for you.
Mad Props to Fingers for getting me inspired again.
Peace
Slick
What are the States of Seduction? Nothing new really. You'll notice in Finger's post that the table of contents is laid out very specifically and he tells you to read from start to finish. He leads you through these States. This is what you are trying to do in any seduction attempt is lead her through these states.
States of seduction
1. Initial state: Fingers doesn't really go into this one but it is basically the state that your target is in before you approach. You have no control over this. It is dependant on who she is, what kind of day she had . Is she happy, energetic, or feeling down, sad, angry, etc. Now this is important because you have to try and read the state she is in and modify your approach accordingly. As soon as you approach you are attempting to lead her to the next state.
2. Interest state: This is where "openers" come in. You have to open the conversation with something to capture her interest. Just a "Hi" isn't your best option unless you've got something pretty good to follow up with. The goal is to get her talking and be interested in you and what you are saying.
3. Attraction state Or being Magnetic as Fingers says. This is where you demonstrate your value. She knows you're confident because you had the balls to approach. This is where you smooth her with your C+F routines, push pull tactics, storytelling, kino, fun loving attitude, etc.
4. Rapport state: You must make a connection with her. Elicit values from her, find out how she feels about things. Start out with fluff and then progress to more internal, deep topics. Then you listen to what she says and respond by feeding back what she just said to you but in a different way. The effect is she tells you something *special* or about herself and you basically feed it back to her and show that you feel the same way. A connection is made! Your kino should be escalating a bit here.
5. Sexual state: You've got to make a move sometime. Do a search and read the Gunwitch Method. You place yourself in a sexual state. Let her know thru eye contact (triangular gazing: eyes, lips, neck) and kino and the expression on your face that you are turned on and want her. Wait for her to show her sexual state. Then isolate. Go for it bro!
Wow this is getting long. Time for the story already!
We're finishing dinner and thoughout we've been discussing Sosuave. Around the time we're going to leave two hotties come in and sit near us. HB8 and HB7. We get some smiles and eye contact and I decided we're going over. So far we've determined in 5 minutes by eyecontact and the friendly smiles that they're Initial state is good and maybe just from looking at us they've already got some interest.
Interest state We get up like we're leaving and both of them immediately look our way. So this is a good sign too. We approach the table with big smiles.
Slick: Hi there! Don't mean to bother you but my friend and I just have to ask you two something... (let it hang there until they say something. Get them hooked)
HB8: What's that?
Slick: How long have you two known each other?
HB8 and 7 look at each other and then back at us: About 8 years why?
Slick: My friend Chad and I here have just been talking about how you can tell through body language and stuff whether or not people are just acquaintences or old friends.
HB7: Oh really. And what did you think about us?
Slick: I could tell you were old friends right away but Chad wasn't so sure.
HB8: How?
Slick: Do you want to do the "Best friend" test?
HB8 and 7: Sure!
Slick: Okay. First question. Do you both use the same brand shampoo?
HB8 and 7 look at each other and it turns out to be no.
Slick: Well your answer doesn't really matter. What matters is the fact that the two of you looked at each other when I asked you the question. And this tells me that you two are close friends. If not you wouldn't have broken eye contact with me when you answered.
Both HB's: (Laughs) Cool that's really interesting!
So we've got them interested and without asking just sit at their booth with them. (By the way I stole that opener ) Luckily for us they were just ordering drinks and appetizers so we weren't intruding on dinner and we ordered some more drinks too.So we're now in the Attraction state. This post could go forever if I kept typing dialogue but I wanted you guys to hear that opener cuz I thought is was good. So we did the basic intro's and found out about where everyone was from and what plans were for the night. I told a funny story about a transvestite we saw earlier in the night. He had dropped his purse and everything went everywhere and here's this hairy old man in a dress on his hands and knees picking stuff off the floor. My buddy Chad had obviously been reading some things about C+F because he had them laughing too. I was sitting by the HB8 and teased her a little bit and started kino by giving her little elbow shots when I did. She responded favorably by grabbing my arm. This playful banter went on for awhile and it naturally got to the point where we split into two separate conversations.
Rapport state I turned to face HB8 and when I did I put my hand on her leg for a second and I asked her how she liked the city. She had already told me she was from out of town and lived on a farm. She went on about how she liked the city but at heart she was a country girl. I mirrored her thoughts by telling her that I too was from a small town and although I like the city I definately miss the laid back atmosphere of the country. She started telling me about her horses and how she does equestrian (horse jumping) and I told her some stories about riding horses on my uncle's farm as a child. Again feeding her stuff back to her with my spin on it. I could tell that attraction was really good. Eye contact was mesmerizing and she kept playing with her hair. All my kino attempts were reciprocated. I was playing footsies with her under the table and we had held hands a few times. I kept pulling away though with that hand to drink my beer. Kino retreat as Fingers would call it.
Sexual state While we were talking and building rapport I simply stepped up my eye contact. But only when I could tell that I was getting a real good connection with her. I started the triangular gazing thing. Look at her eyes, then her lips, then her neck. All in a sensual kind of way. While doing this I was gently stroking her hand under the table. She was now mirroring ME! I could see her eyes doing the same thing! Important* Once at this point you have to lay off the rapport building. You can't have her too immersed in thought when you are trying to get her sexual. So I started directing the conversation to fluff kind of topics. About 5 minutes later she says she's going to the bathroom. I follow and say I have to go too. On the way I was making conversation about the types of pictures on the walls in the male bathroom and how they are probably different than what's in the female's. So by the time we got there she was interested in seeing what was in the guys bathroom. I showed her and then she took me in the womens and showed me. We laughed cuz in the guy's there were chicks in bathing suits and in the girl's there were sailboats and puppy dogs.
Right when we were laughing I turned her to me pulled her close and gave her a long kiss. We kind of freaked being in the girls bathroom so we went into one of the stalls. We made out passionately. I had my hands stroking her back and chest for a while and then I made my move down below. One hand down the front of her pants and one down the back. Someone came in! We stopped for a minute, smiled and the fact we had to be so quiet made it more dangerous, more passionate. Shortly after that person left I believe she *came* right there in the bathroom stall. LOL what a romantic scene! She seemed a little embarrassed after she orgasmed and said "I can't believe this!" We decided we should get back to the table quickly and we'd go separately not to attract suspicion.
We were razzed at the table for taking so long but we pulled it off saying we were checking out the art in the bathrooms. It was true!
The girls were meeting some friends later and I could read their silent girl signals that we weren't welcome. Maybe they were meeting their boyfriends or something. Right away I announced that Chad and I had to go too. We said our "nice meeting you's" and both of us number closed. I gave HB8 a quick peck on the lips and said bye. I saw HB7 give her a big glare so I think they probably were going to meet boyfriends. Whatever.
Anyways I hope that wasn't too long and boring. I just wanted to demonstrate the idea of leading a chick thru the different states with a real life example. It takes time and you have to be able to read where she's at before you go to the next state. If you try and skip a state or rush it too quick you're going to fail. This one was really easy. Surprised me! I believe that she went through the interest, attraction, and rapport states really quickly. Funny how that works. If she's really attracted to you right from the start just from your looks she may just skip some states for you.
Mad Props
to Fingers for getting me inspired again.Peace
Slick
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