Sosuave teachings don't mesh well with society overall

[thechosenone2190]

Here on sosuave, we are often taught to treat romance like a number's game and to spin multiple plates to find the woman who is perfect for you. Ideally, she will love you for who you are, fit into your world, and never cheat on you. (pook and anti-dump would agree)

However, imagine you're the father of a girl you love very much. Would you ever be fine with your daughter dating someone who lives by the principles of sosuave? A guy who may pump and dump your daughter at the drop of a hat because he is in the process of weeding out low interest women? If not, therein lies the conflict between Sosuave philosophy and the rest of society. It would also make you a hypocrite in a sense to follow Sosuave teachings and yet not want your daughter to date a DJ.

If every guy on earth practiced what we preach here on Sosuave, how can the institution of marriage survive? Or are we actually trying to challenge the institution of marriage?

Just some food for thought. I'm not saying what we preach here doesn't work. I just question whether society would function well if the entire male population practiced it. Or do we not care about this hypothetical scenario that will most likely never come true? Living by sosuave teachings is just like haxing in the dating world?

OR are we striving to reach a point where women supplicate to men like AFC's? Women buy the flowers and chocolates to win over the hearts of the men they desire? That seems to be one way for Sosuave philosophy to mesh okay with society.

Feel free to share your thoughts.

 

[Sneevox]

With life comes heartbreak, pain and challenge.
I'm ready to accept that I will suffer, and that my kids will. I know they'll find happiness, though.

 

[InnerHappiness]

Karma is gonna be a betch for us.

 

[marmel75]

But I guess its cool if your daughter is the one giving out her number, then not returning phone calls and making plans and then flaking at the last minute? I mean you do what works...the dudes banging the hot chicks are not the ones playing by societies rules...those are the AFC guys crying about how unfair the world is...

 

[The Bat]

Not to state the obvious here but society's philosophy is NOT supposed to mesh with sosuave teachings. Society caters to women and puts the women in power when it comes to this relationship dynamics. Sosuave is simply an effort by men to reclaim that power in order to form a more civilized society where every person, man and woman, has a sense of their own self-worth and will not settle due to some perceived sense of scarcity. Something that the current society adamantly refuses to allow it to exist and instead wants men to be treated like dogs for women to control and keep on a leash.

 

[Mr.SomeoneElse]

If I ever end up having a daughter I will teach her to be a high-quality woman.
A woman of value and the characteristics that make up a woman of class.
Her mother will have those qualities as well and I'm sure will pass them down.
I think there are so many girls out there that are repulsive, burping, farting, fighting, just un-womanly qualities that are awful. They haven't been taught how to be a 'lady' in society or even how to behave in formal situations.
It seems like most girls think "I am therefore I shall" with their self empowered attitude towards everything, when really they don't have much value to offer.

I'm not concerned about any of what you said, worried for my kids, and i'm getting quite annoyed with the constant threads posted about 'Is So suave working for you?' or anything else that questions the morality or effectiveness of this website.
The basis of so suave is self-improvement at its core, and those who deny/bash/discriminate are simply the lazy.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

It is the daughter's/girl's responsibility to know better. Stop perpetuating this nonsensical idea that women are adult children.

 

[Purefilth]

It is the daughter's/girl's responsibility to know better. Stop perpetuating this nonsensical idea that women are adult children.

Women ARE adult Children :crackup:

 

[Alvafe]

This ^

I'm not going to let my little lady become something scuzzy.

Then again, I can totally see karma whooping me really hard for it....

I agree with I wouldn't like my daughter be used, but at the same time if she heard what I said it wouldn't be a problem, also I wouldn't like my son be played by *****s like I was, and for that matter I pretty much say my dad failed by never really teaching it.

also think about it like that if you belive in karma, most of guys here find it because you was dumped, played, crush by a girl and just said to yourself, i'm doing something wrong, then you go out to search for some answers.
if karma is at play here it your time to make woman suffer for all things you had to take before you start to change.

 

[Zarky]

Here on sosuave, we are often taught to treat romance like a number's game and to spin multiple plates to find the woman who is perfect for you.

Um, no. Only betas and manginas think there is a woman who is "perfect," for them or otherwise. Here on SS we are taught to treat women as fungible commodities until they prove that they are something more, and to date as many attractive, attentive women as a man can, and to enjoy his life as much as possible.

However, imagine you're the father of a girl you love very much. Would you ever be fine with your daughter dating someone who lives by the principles of sosuave?

I never will, so I don't know and I don't care. That's like saying, "If you were a cow, would you support eating beef?" Probably not, but I'm not a cow, so...

If every guy on earth practiced what we preach here on Sosuave, how can the institution of marriage survive? Or are we actually trying to challenge the institution of marriage?

I like my name. Does that mean I think everybody should have the same name? Of course not. Just because it's good for me doesn't mean it's good for everybody.

Marriage is a dying institution, and good riddance.

Or do we not care about this hypothetical scenario that will most likely never come true? Living by sosuave teachings is just like haxing in the dating world?

Go out and get laid, my friend. The world will do its own thing.

 

[floydb25]

I just find it strange that you mention some of the guys on here (and elsewhere) COULD be hypocritical, IF they had a daughter, and these things happened. They're already hypocritical. Many believe the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" philosophy, and are doing the same things they ***** about... Constantly. "Gah! I can't believe that ***** cheated! Now I'm going to [blah blah whine cry revenge hypocrite false victim get bent]".

You are preaching to a crowd who are mostly ALREADY these things you say. Kind of like when you sympathize with a jerk - thinking they're not fully jerks YET, because they whine, complain, play the victim, ***** about the same things they are, and act nice sometimes.

GG, too late.

 

[Scars]

I think if a DJ has a daughter he should raise her in such a way that she RESPECTS herself. She could date a player, but I'm going to see through it. You will too. If she's smart, she will quickly weed these types of men out, and look for a real MAN, someone who reminds her of.. hmmm, who's that one guy.. oh yeah, her dad!

Not all DJs are looking to bone every woman's flesh pocket, some are legitimately looking to find the right person. Teach her to do the same thing, but let her know that she doesn't NEED a man to make her happy. She should have respect for herself, that's the key theme here..

-Scars

 

[bigneil]

Ours moms lied to us, so dammit we can lie to our daughters.

But do remember that the most important thing is that a girl love her dad.

 

[Young Juan]

So suave teaching do mesh well with real society. I got a pops, a mom, and two sisters. Not gonna go into cousins, nephews, etc. I will say 4 aunts and 1 uncle.

Momma, aunts, and sisters say, "be a leader. be the man. never let no woman boss you and command you around. be a gentleman. be honest. don't be a player/lier. we push your buttons to make you stronger"

pops? love him to death but he kind of a *****. my momma wear the pants and she make sure I don't turn out like pops. married 35+ years.

big sis? own her own business and basically tells me bout pvssy boys out there. nice guys don't turn her on. she a church girl, matter of fact, a preacher. nonetheless, she don't knock my hustle. she knows whats good for the species. whats good for the goose ain't always good for the gander.

chuuch