Sometimes we're our own worst enemy

[BetterCallSaul]

Let me put this out there first: I am not trying to start some forum war. I am writing this because of some of the crap I see on other sites similar to SS. I write this because this crap that gets posted is bad enough, but it's even worse when other members egg the guy on in a sense by saying "hell yeah, that's the way it gets done" or essentially reinforcing and confirming this sort of behavior.

So on to the topic of my post....

I read a couple other red pill sites too on occasion. I'm a firm believer in the "red pill message" of sorts in that men in general for the last few decades have been too soft and let too many people walk all over them, mainly women, when in relationships or the general gender dynamics across all age groups. Men need to rediscover that they have significant power and can't let this thirst for pu$$y pervade their every thought and desire for improvement in their lives.

My beef on another site in particular is that recently some users started asking stuff like "Ever had a woman masturbate while you're having sex?" Ok, first off is she masturbating to sort of get herself in the mood and ready to bone? No no, many of the guys who replied indicated that "yeah it's perfectly normal" for her to start rubbing her cl!t while you're actually balls deep in her, or for her to grab a dildo and use it on herself while you're boning her. WTF guys?

Another example...."Do you all com on a chick's face?" Replies: "Hell yeah man, do it all the time, you should be too. Every chick loves it." or "At first I didn't, but then I started doing it regardless and you can tell a chick loves this stuff".

Now let me first address the masturbating thing. If a woman is fingering herself or whatever on a bed and giving you that look, yeah it's on. But fingering herself or using a vibrator while you're actually pounding away on her? No, there's something wrong with this chick. This is not normal. Now as for blowing your load on a chick's face....I have no issue at all blowing my load on a chick if she specifically wants it somewhere like on her stomach or tits. I will say this - when I'm close to blowing my load, WHERE I blow my load is probably the last thing on my mind because I'm concentrating on some great orgasm that's about to rock my world. So I had probably better already be positioned somewhere to ejaculate and enjoy it to the fullest. I think I've com on a woman's face a few times before when I was younger but usually this was because of bad aim or orgasm was much stronger than i expected and it nailed her good. They were all ok with it but I never once had a chick tell me to blow my load on her face. I've had plenty ask me to creampie them.

Why are guys offering this crap advice? Porn. You see this crap all the time in porn and yet these guys are offering "advice" like its some secret key to unlocking the pu$$y of all women everywhere. When guys come on red pill sites and offer up this advice, they aren't helping anyone. In fact it sets back our cause significantly because it only reinforces the inaccurate portrayal of sex and so guys start expecting it should be like this.

Of course I'm also open to the possibility that my entire premise is wrong and these guys are right. What has everyone else's experience been like?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Agree on that thing about her masturbating or using a dildo while you pound her, its not something that good and most of all it creates some problem to her just a like compulsory masturbation which takes away sensitivity to guys.

Regarding the cvm on her face thing, most of us just want to assert dominance on a girl or in some subconscious way degrade her to make her pay for all the bullsh1t we had to deal to take her home, or in some cases degrade her because we know she's a slvt and dont want to look like the only one treating her as a princess.

Imagine you are looking for a gf but all you find are slvtty girls riding the c0ck carousel, sure many of us are fine with such things but plenty of us would like to find a girl which gives her "treasure" to us only, its not the case and it p1sses us off, therefore in some way we act accordingly.

Feel free to disagree but thats what I tend to believe, I blown my load on the faces of all the girls which were used to fvck around or frustrated me too much with games and flakes, when I had serious girls which I respected never felt the need to do anything like that.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

I blown my load on the faces of all the girls which were used to fvck around or frustrated me too much with games and flakes, when I had serious girls which I respected never felt the need to do anything like that.

This actually explains a lot and really puts a lot of things into perspective for me and the life I've lead so far. Thank you

 

[speed dawg]

Good topic. This is the result of frustrated men using 'pick-up' and not mastering the red pill or wanting to become better men. MGTOW also results from this.

While I don't agree with the core of that stuff, I can definitely understand why it happens as a result of the BS men are subjected to (no matter the root cause). Just like WDW posted.

I've always thought as better men, we should rise above all that crap. But that's also a goal......you get there gradually rather than overnight.

On porn.....I'm conflicted on that. Obviously on the surface it's bad and can corrupt the mind.....but in sexless marriages it can be very beneficial. Either way young men need to know that porn is a fantasy catered to SELL.....and not reality.

 

[DaddyLongShanks]

Good topic. This is the result of frustrated men using 'pick-up' and not mastering the red pill or wanting to become better men. MGTOW also results from this.

While I don't agree with the core of that stuff, I can definitely understand why it happens as a result of the BS men are subjected to (no matter the root cause). Just like WDW posted.

I've always thought as better men, we should rise above all that crap. But that's also a goal......you get there gradually rather than overnight.

On porn.....I'm conflicted on that. Obviously on the surface it's bad and can corrupt the mind.....but in sexless marriages it can be very beneficial. Either way young men need to know that porn is a fantasy catered to SELL.....and not reality.

IN a sexless marriage or relationship porn can get you stuck on a cycle of being sexless because you are using porn to get your "needs" met, and it doesn't fill emotional fulfillment also will not cause the bodies hormones to raise like real actual sex with a human being.

 

[speed dawg]

IN a sexless marriage or relationship porn can get you stuck on a cycle of being sexless because you are using porn to get your "needs" met, and it doesn't fill emotional fulfillment also will not cause the bodies hormones to raise like real actual sex with a human being.

I meant that a husband and wife watches porn together, not just one of them.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I never understood men's disdain for women having sex toys. I am the opposite. All of the women I have had the best sex with liked their toys.

Regarding her using them during sex, anything that makes her orgasm will make her vag clench up while she is cvmming. It's hard to argue with tight pvssy. Plus, when a girl uses a strong bullet vibe on her cl!t while you fvck her, it gives her a vibrating vagina, which is also nice to fvck.

 

[DaddyLongShanks]

I meant that a husband and wife watches porn together, not just one of them.

LOL. Yes it can help with the couple watching together. Women are highly suggestive especially when other women are doing it.

I heard there was a restaurant which had quiet spaces that a couple could make out/make love if need be.

Also swingers club. You can take wife/gf in there, so they can know other people are f@cking. They don't have to invite others in, the wife/gf knowing other people are doing it will get more excited and try more things....

 

[Suspens]

Good point by Who Dares Win regarding "The Cumming Of Revenge"

 

[prison/con.net]

bsSaul. you're a lost cause, dude. Most women cannot *** from penetration, Anything that helps her *** is your best friend.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Mine does but its cause she's alot smaller than me.

 

[prison/con.net]

Mine, too. I picked a petite one, with that as one of the reasons. If i can't pick her up with just one arm, I aint interested.

 

[DaddyLongShanks]

Mine, too. I picked a petite one, with that as one of the reasons. If i can't pick her up with just one arm, I aint interested.

Petite is no guarantee of a tighter orifice... They say small woman big p@ssy... Some say that the less body fat and very small size gives less flesh pressing against the vaginal canal, and why many men are surprised to find a "thicker" babe is tighter than they could imagine.

But be with what you like is the bottom line, hopefully whatever it is is good for you.

 

[FairShake]

I think if someone is concerned about cumming on a woman's face or if she is masturbating while you are having sex they have some hangups that I personally don't have. I suspect you don't like porn and don't like anything that's associated with it. To me porn is a tool and if it heightens and already pleasurable situation it's an effective tool.

I don't mind cumming on a woman's face or anywhere else. If I was influenced by porn so be it. It has heightened my experience a time or two.

As for masturbating while we're having sex what was said earlier is correct. I've heard 80% women don't cvm from penetration but from oral sex or masturbation. And I bet those 20% are using their fingers at the same time! I suspect it's even less from me since I'm not overly blessed in the nether regions. But I can use my tongue and fingers and leave my ego at the door so they usually have an orgasm and always have a great time with me. If anything being against masturbating while fvcking due to your own rules is kind of fvcking selfish. I personally like to give pleasure. Which, of course, heightens the pleasure for me as well.