some of you are wasting time and your lifes

[frivolousz21]

a few things:

1. whoever said having a child isnt that hard.

My child isnt due for 7 months and im already worried about it and stressed over it.

ITS STRESSFUL TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.
BEING 100 PERCENT RESPONSIBLE

THEN AGAIN so many of you are so selfishly wrapped up in you own NEEDS...you convince yourself those needs are just wants and desires...and then complain when you cant find someone who fits ur perfect description of what you think a women should do.


a Women should be there for friendship, sex, 2nd income, motherhood, companionship, family, and comfertability.




NUMBER 2:

you need to stop crying about women being bad or this and that.

im sure my X gf...thought I was bad when I threw her into a wall during a fight I manipulated to control her.

yes, I was that guy. you think women are the only ones hurting people? shyt wat men do to women BLOWS AWAY ANYTHIGN THEY CAN DO US.

stop being defensive and pick up your balls and move on when things dont go your way. there are AMAZING WOMEN OUT THERE...who want what you want....

99.9 percent of the time.... you make a mistake in judgement when you decided to date that particular women, you missed the red flags. yes you dated the wrong girl..(ive done it too, too many times) but I never turned negative..I always knew there was something better out there.


LASTLY...maybe I am only 23...this site gave me 1 thing..that was attracting women initially..and ridding myself of being clingy. I guess that 2 things. but the more and more my life improves from SS.com..there more people here who try to shoot me down...because they didnt get the same message I got. this was sparked when reading the thread about moms with chrildren.

did you DOLTS EVER THINK THAT MAYBE THE FATHER JUST RAN OFF. KINDA LIKE MY DAD DID. Im sure my mom was happy with that....im sure she loves that...you dont have kids..and the ones of you who do have kids..know what its like its a monumental responsibility.

its funny to me that you guys came here because you were pyssies wth no game once..or needy men..haha..needy men..yes I was one to..do u realize that being a needy man wasnt attractive..this shyt goes both ways.

men and women both have negative and POSITIVE quailities...maybe you should embrace the positive, look out for the negative and have fun with this..instead of living in fear of what hasnt happened yet.

 

[WestCoaster]

Maybe you should stop criticizing

People come here for different reasons. Some to vent, some to wonder why things happened, some for advice. Calling people a bunch of dolts and so forth (while spelling and punctuating brutally along the way) is not a way to win people over.

Yes, some of us aren't being positive; no, we don't care how many women you're pulling since you got on here.

But demeaning people won't get you anywhere here or in life.

Your sanctimonious preaching and criticizing doesn't fly here. If anyone needs to take the positive and not the negative, it's you.

 

[MetalFortress]

2nd income my ass. Either choose between 2 full time incomes, or raising your child right and having a happy marriage. There is no third option, with few exceptions.

 

[Wyldfire]

You've grown up a great deal since you first came here. You're a lot happier, too. This girl you are with seems to bring out the best in you and you wear it well.

The same things you picked up on in that other thread is annoying me as well. This site is a mess. There is a thread in Anything else glorifying drugs. There are young boys reading this site. Misery loves company. I'm beginning to think the guys who are unhappy, misearble and failing with women are purposely trying to pull others who are trying to make progress down with them.

Let them rag on you...you're happy and it shows. They're not and it shows. Seems to me that you're in the better position.

 

[frivolousz21]

im not here to win people over.

if my best friend didnt critisize me for being a pyssy with women..I can guarentee you id be bitter like the popular consenses here.

 

[frivolousz21]

Wyldfire-"ou've grown up a great deal since you first came here. You're a lot happier, too. This girl you are with seems to bring out the best in you and you wear it well.

The same things you picked up on in that other thread is annoying me as well. This site is a mess. There is a thread in Anything else glorifying drugs. There are young boys reading this site. Misery loves company. I'm beginning to think the guys who are unhappy, misearble and failing with women are purposely trying to pull others who are trying to make progress down with them.

Let them rag on you...you're happy and it shows. They're not and it shows. Seems to me that you're in the better position. "




well I read what you right..and it just clicks to me as reality....actually everything youve ever said makes sense to me and I understand.

your right they are just miserable..and they feed off each other to justify there logic.

 

[frivolousz21]

2nd income my ass. Either choose between 2 full time incomes

yea I mean a 2nd income as in her job as well and mine when we are married

 

[WestCoaster]

Doesn't make sense ...

... to have a hate-filled post and then come back with "take the positive!"

You're either bi-polar or terribly uneducated. I hope neither. But it makes no sense to trash others here and then say stay positive.

People come here for different reasons; no one appointed you board monitor.

 

[frivolousz21]

... to have a hate-filled post and then come back with "take the positive!"

You're either bi-polar or terribly uneducated. I hope neither. But it makes no sense to trash others here and then say stay positive.

People come here for different reasons; no one appointed you board monitor.





Hate filled?


oh ok..the way you guys view the world must be with loving arms and eyes

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Friv, if you're not here to win people over, then I'd hope you're here to provide thoughtful, insightful, and beneficial posts, otherwise you're wasting internet-air-space. And this post sort of goes that, sorry pal.


I won't know what having a kid is like @ 25 since I'm not due one, but I do know I can't TELL people how to live, or ACT, or FEEL. That's purely egotistical b.s.


NOR can I tell or BE TOLD by anyone what to do, except by my own admission.

NOR can you tell someone OLDER than you what to do with their life.

Glad to see the effort, and other alternative of thought you're bringing, and congrats on the kid, but lay life playout and then come back. I'm sure there's alot of positives going on with you, and they'll continue so long as you continue that attitude.

But again, every guy comes here for their own reasons and reaps their own rewards, or lack of.

I'm sure you, like me, is tired of seeing weak arse posts on simple thoughts and ideas. It's like we have to OFFER suggestions to wipe their arses. BUT...thus is the learning process.

It's EGOTISTICAL of ANYONE to expect EVERYBODY to be perfect or on the same level. Yes, I'm terribly agitated by some of the posts, and others are just trolls. BUT, I do grasp the fact we're all different, and some of us might be higher up the food chain than other's, come from diff. backgrounds, have diff. abilities, and so on.

The come thing we got is this planet, this website, and our maleness, or lack of. So by hurting you, I only hurt me. And by hurting me, you only hurt you. Karma brother, it goes around, and it comes right back.

See, even my own post was Egotistical to think I could do/say anything to change your perspective. Ha!


A-Unit

 

[frivolousz21]

The come thing we got is this planet, this website, and our maleness, or lack of. So by hurting you, I only hurt me. And by hurting me, you only hurt you. Karma brother, it goes around, and it comes right back.

The come thing we got is this planet, this website, and our maleness, or lack of. So by hurting you, I only hurt me. And by hurting me, you only hurt you. Karma brother, it goes around, and it comes right back.

thats pretty amazing there and true...

Im not trying to be egotistical....I read these guys post on what they want..then go about getting it in a ways that wont get them what they want

 

[WestCoaster]

The title of this post is ...

.... "some of you are wasting your time and your lives."(That's "lives" not lifes by the way.)

If people have found sosuave.com, they're not wasting their time, they've found a new, true philosophy.

As for wasting their lives, it's not up to YOU to decide who is wasting what. You don't know the people here so you can't judge what they're wasting or what they're not wasting.

Also, at 23, I think you should step back and listen instead of preaching.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Doesn't make sense ...

Originally posted by WestCoaster
... to have a hate-filled post and then come back with "take the positive!"

You're either bi-polar or terribly uneducated. I hope neither. But it makes no sense to trash others here and then say stay positive.

People come here for different reasons; no one appointed you board monitor.

He's just frustrated with some of the posts on another thread. I'm normally a very positive and upbeat person. Sometimes this site is so filled with negativity that it makes me want to scream at the guys on here to wake up and realize all they're missing by wallowing in their misery.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: The title of this post is ...

Originally posted by WestCoaster
.... "some of you are wasting your time and your lives."(That's "lives" not lifes by the way.)

If people have found sosuave.com, they're not wasting their time, they've found a new, true philosophy.

As for wasting their lives, it's not up to YOU to decide who is wasting what. You don't know the people here so you can't judge what they're wasting or what they're not wasting.

Also, at 23, I think you should step back and listen instead of preaching.

frivolous has taken a lot of heat from a lot of guys on here for actually finding a great girl who he's having a great relationship with. Even though things are going well there are people here who repeatedly advise him to dump the girl. That crap wears on your last nerve after awhile. Frivolous is happy and rather than the guys here congratulate him in finding something that makes him happy they try to rip him down all the time. Again...misery loves company. He's just having a rant that's probably been building for awhile now. Everyone is entitled to one of those once in awhile.

 

[Wyldfire]

A-Unit...you're like the sosuave Buddha...

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Haha, thanks, I think?

I GET that, you might say "hey, let's get down to results..." And we should, AND WE ARE. Most guys don't know it, but the journey they start on IS NOT THE ONE they finish on, NOR expected.

Usually you don't get what you expect, you get what you NEED. Somehow, someway.

I'd say the fact that there are alot of crying AFC's and faker-dj's is motivation enough to UP the standards and UP what's going on.

Take the mantra of "Batman Begins," become something more by living up to an ideal...allow it to infiltrate and permeate SLOWLY.

I like the DJ bible, it's GREAT fundamentals for those in H/S & College, but we all have to upgrade. I would believe a SECOND and more PROGRESSIVE should be collected. With what? I don't know. But certainly great posts that ADVANCE boys beyond PUA's, DJ's, and so on should be the goal.

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Honestly I do not want to be some 30 or 40 year PUA picking up chicks on Spring break, just like you'd seen in Wedding Crashers. It get's tired and old. It's sleazy, too. Might sound nice, and ideal. But to me it isn't realisitic with who we are. Or at least I am.

I do believe it should be automatic to have read the bible BEFORE posting, have exp. with it, and have exp in the field, either with a few gf's, or having met other guys and validated that. No Offense, but theory vs. reality, reality wins out. Might be the best idea from any book, but if it's only a source of ref. from a book, ADD that to a recommended LIST of books for a NEW DJ bible.

I see OPPORTUNITY where people are decrying HOW bad it is.

Is this not idicative of a NEED to improve? That it's not meeting the needs of people? Of the public, of boys/men that are begging, pleading for more?

MANY of Rollo's post are well written and researched. They're not negative or bitter, they're opinionated and factual. I've read countless other's on business ideas, on motivational posts, on ideas for business, apartments, moving, video games, cars, whatever. That belongs, too.

Trolls come on and ridicule in various forms because THEY CAN. Guys are so SENSITIVE and ready to jump and show off their KEYBOARD fighting skills they can't use any restraint...like dropping words on here MATTERS.

I'd say the PROBLEM is...there's only SO much stuff about women that matters. REALLY. We'll never read their minds; we only control US. Boys/men need fundamentals INSTALLED now. Realize, if you're gonna jump in the game, in the pool, without having your shyt straight, YOU WILL SKIN YOUR KNEES, you will get BRUISES.

If you go to bars/clubs trying to pull hot women and you smell bad, look bad, and generally DO NOT RESPECT YOURSELF, NOR WILL WOMEN. FUNDAMENTAL. it's FUN-DUH-MENTAL! Looks are not about WOMEN, it's about SELF_respect. That's it. And what you say when you're not active and you're eating tons, you don't care. That's only 1 piece, we can debate all day. Women might like looks less, BUT looks do say

"he's good for my kids, b/c he's cute, I would like to show him to my friends, he'll take good pictures with me, and he respects himself, so he'll respect me, and his things, AND, he could get other women b/c he's attractive."

That's just for starters. FUN-DUH-MENTAL. Get SOME workout program going. Nobody here has to judge you, just do something. If you're pulling chicks as a cow, that you won't need any advice, you'll be offering it. BUT, if you're a cow, and you're wondering why girls don't like you, and you don't want to workout a little, or be active or stop chowing down @ buffets, then NO advice matters. Wussy HOT guys only last so long, say a fling, I've KNOWN girls, yes they like models, but girls with class, who SEEK men for something, guidance, leadership, won't find that with a pvssy male wvss.


Ack, I've gone WAY off tangent, but bottom ____ line. Things are bad because the balance between GOOD posters/contributors is being OUTWEIGHED by BAD posters/contributors. It's like an infection taking over. Now, 2 things can happen, MORE good one's show up/post to override that, OR, you give the guys what they need and help them out. BUT, enabling the small shyt to continue, only keeps them HOOKED to come back for MORE answers continuously. THE GOAL is, to develop self-reliance so that when guys leave here, when the site is gone, YOU CAN LIVE out without NEEDING another site EVER AGAIN.



A_Unit

 

[WestCoaster]

Another great post A-unit.

While I think it's good some come here for the basic fundamentals and how to ask out gals, the mature board should be beyond that. Honestly, there's some real crazy stuff out there ... on the main board there are guys who don't know how to say 'hi' to girls. Yes, I'm serious, they are socially repressed.

Everyone has a different goal for this site. Mine is to keep my former AFCness buried, dead, and gone, and hope it doesn't crop up again. Being confident with or without a woman has made me happy, and I credit much of this site in helping me develop confidence.

Continuing on the AFC path, like I said, 99 percent of PUAs turn into married AFCs and perpetuate the demasculinization of men. If you become a married AFC, this board has done you absolutely no good.

So you know where I'm coming from and that I'm he-l bent on destroying male AFCness!

In a nutshell, yes, we need to take it to the next level.

 

[frivolousz21]

In a nutshell, yes, we need to take it to the next level.

exactly

 

[Wyldfire]

It was a compliment made to look like a neg hit for entertainment purposes. What can I say...I crack myself up. All in good fun...

What is missing here that provides the glue and inspiration for great posts is the sense of community. It used to be that the posters here were just as concerned about the success of their fellow posters as they were about themselves. Now it's all about this assenine "jockeying" for some imaginary "Alpha Male" status. It's quite pathetic. Toss in all this "men are victims" girly sh*t and you've got one hell of a mess.

My 19 year old daughter just broke up with her boyfriend yesterday. He acts much like the guys on here who give all the lousy advice. My daughter is loyal, sweet, giving, caring, honest and she doesn't play games or mislead at all. He's an overly emotional, needy, jealous control freak. After she broke up with him and how he reacted she talked with me about it. She said, "Mom, the way he behaves it's like I'm the guy and he's the emotional girl who needs too much. I don't want to be the guy."

Maybe these guys just aren't able to see it...but the harder they try to front being "alpha" the more they look like a bunch of sorry biotches.

I've tried to offer a higher quality of discussion only to have a few people attack me incessantly to the point where the mods just lock the thread. I do try very hard to give quality, helpful advice that I really put thought into. Ironically, I get a lot of requests for advice privately. This happens because those who are serious about improving are discouraged from posting because of those who just attack people to try to look good and impress the other keyboard jockeys. I stick around because I know that I'm helping a few people, and that inspires me to tolerate all the crap I tend to have hurled at me.

A-Unit...you're one of the best contributors. I don't always agree with you...but you try to be helpful and actually think before typing...and that's what's important.