Sociopaths: A great success with the ladies

[persiangino]

Now im not going to argue on and banter about the definition of an "alpha" male since everyone seems to have their own opinion on the subject.

However, their should be no question that confident sociopaths are a huge success with the ladies considering their brain chemistry and how they view the world.

Women are exceptional observers of their surroundings, and no surprise, they are programmed to find the perfect mate, a high status male. They seek a male with great communication skills (ie verbal skill, perfect body language), someone who exudes POWER and CONFIDENCE. Women use their beauty to control men by momentarily altering their perception of their reality through body language or verbally succumbing to their beauty. This is how God intended it to be.

However, males who are not so easily swayed by such mental suggestions and who follow and create their own reality are what attract women.

Now imagine if you can, if you had no conscious. That's right, imagine if you had absolutely nothing stopping you from feeling the way you wanted to feel or acting the way you wanted to act at any given moment without anyone being able to alter your thinking or trying to stop you. Provided you are not forcibly stopped you can do anything you ever wanted.

Most people think of sociopaths in violent terms - murderers, serial killers - but noone ever thinks about the sociopaths who are able to easily manipulate the 'system' by lying, cheating, stealing without any inner mechanism or conscious beating them up inside. In this way, conscious and confident Sociopaths have a huge advantage with their communication skills, and with no conscious, they are able to sway and manipulate people.

In Hervey Cleckly's book the "The Mask of Sanity" he describes Psychopaths as : "Likeable," "Charming," "Intelligent," "Alert," "Impressive," "Confidence-inspiring," and "A GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE LADIES."

The untroubled confidence and a myriad other traits of the psychopath seems like an impossible dream for most people, and is what some people acquire at assertiveness training classes. Not only are psychopaths successful with the ladies, but since they are able to execute very complex routines designed to elicit from others support for what they want, they usually reach very high positions in life.

You guys all banter about being the Don Juan. But the fictional character himself, when examined, was a psychopath.

Considering we are not animals, maybe the human with exceptional communication skills and manipulative powers is indeed the alpha male.

 

[happyguy]

That is true... I had to go head to head with a sociopath professor once. He was so good with women even when he was not pulling his 'power' card (he traumatized scores of his female students which is how I first came to know of his psychopathic tendencies). Sociopaths are very charming and manipulative and don't seem to have any guilt or cognizance of how they are affecting other people. The guy I dealt with was not ouwardly menacing, the complete opposite. He just oozed comfort and confidence. He could walk into a room and have every single person look to him like god. But he was sooo fvcked up in the head! He needed constant attention and validation and he enjoyed torturing people mentally. He'd make women spill their innermost secrets to him and mind fvck them using that information. I got him fired (I was his TA) thankfully because he was not yet tenured. But it was such a struggle! People were putty in his hands. It is extremely dangerous dealing with those types. A psychopath will come after you with a machete, but a sociopath will bend the minds of people around you and come after you relentlessly. At the core they are just attention seeking needy wh*res. I feel bad for the women he fvcked over. I know two of them who had nervous breakdowns. I got them to support my case to get him fired, but they wouldn't do it because they were so scared. I had to carry their testimonials anonymously and record my conversations with the ass*ole.

 

[Bible_Belt]

It worked for Charles Manson. It's not a surprise that social creatures like women would go for a sociopaths. If you look at what women swoon for - doctors, lawyers, politicians, judges, celebrities, religious leaders - what they all have in common is that they have the power to influence the lives of the people around them. Social proof and social power attract women.

 

[KontrollerX]

Happyguy your professor sounds like a sociopath for sure but he also could've just been an NPD which stands for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

NPD's do a lot of the same things to people as a sociopath would the difference is a sociopath moreso feeds off of power and control while an NPD feeds off of being worshipped by his audience and thriving off its attention such as what you said about your professor needing constant attention and validation.

The male NPD's hate women as they hate their mother and the opposite is true of female NPD's where they hate men as they hate their father.

One of the parents is responsible for turning such people into NPD's so they take out their repressed parental hate by forming intense love bonds with people and then crushing those people's dreams much like their parents crushed theirs.

The goal for an NPD to get private information from some woman would simply be to use it as humiliation to get satisfaction as a form of revenge on their mother.

A socio would go farther and use such information to get sex, money or anything else they could of value.

 

[saber]

I found this and thought it looked sorta interesting...if anyone tries it lemme know....




a comprehensive beginners guide to becoming a sociopath


Sociopathy. The word makes "good" people cringe. It is a very real syndrome that affects young and old. In general there are ten real symptoms:
Not learning from experience.
No sense of responsibility.
Inability to form meaningful relationships.
Inability to control impulses.
Lack of moral sense.
Chronically antisocial behavior.
No change in behavior after punishment.
Emotional immaturity.
Lack of guilt.
Self-centeredness.
If you are a sociopath you probably don't know it, but if you want to be a sociopath and have fun unlike all the other blockheads in the world, then this is the recipe for you.

There is a general trend in the symptoms listed above, carelessness. There is a surefire way to disassociate yourself from feelings, which includes guilt. Can you think of what emotion and feeling has done for you? Nothing is what I am thinking. So here it is, without further ado, you own personal guide to becoming God. This means being totally free of emotion and feeling, unless you desire them. You will no longer associate certain actions with certain feelings so you will be able to do anything you want and not feel a damn thing, if you elect to. You can steal, lie, cheat, fight, hurt, and you won't think twice. There is a great balance that must be emphasized before we can start the program. Although the whole point of being a sociopath is to not feel guilt, sadness, or hurt, you will also be stripped of 'positive' feelings and often times actions that usually resulted in happiness will be replaced with anger and then normal bad emotion actions will become happiness producing instead. So if you are squeamish or don't desire a sadomasochist view on life, don't read on.

Here's the ten day beginners guide; start on a Monday for the best and fastest results.


Day 1:

WAKE UP EXTREMELY EARLY, this will allow you to be groggy enough not to care on your own.

Good act 1: Go and buy 40 dollars in groceries for your local homeless man. It will **** with his head so bad. This action is called 'Rampant Altruism".

Bad Act 1: Find the nicest luxury car at your work and vandalize it.

You are set for the day. Make sure not to think twice about anything you've done today.


Day 2:

Wake up earlier than the day before and play VERY loud music. This works on many levels, but you can't count it as a bad action.

Good Act 1: While on the hustle to work drive very slowly and let everyone in, don't get mad or stressed.

Bad Act 1: Go to a coffee shop and sit down, order the most difficult drink to make and keep changing your mind about it, then don't pay for anything and when she looks at you just say, 'ah never mind', then start muttering and swearing to yourself barely audible, but definitely call her a 'slut' or '*****'. Leave and slam things on your way out.

Good Act 2: Go to the Library. Find the most frumpish looking mid 20's girl and start flirting with her heavily. Leave and come back and bring her flowers, real nice ones, then give her someone else number when she asks for it. This will destroy her.

Bad Act 2: Hopefully it will be garbage day, but if it isn't find one of those huge dumpsters and spread trash all over the street. Break as much glass as you can.

Ok, you are getting into the swing of things. It is important not to dwell or celebrate about anything you did today, this is very important.


Day 3:

You can wake up normally, but don't eat breakfast, don't drink coffee.

Bad Act 1: Drive fast, mean, and flip off as many people as you can on your way to work. Make as many people start off with bad days, especially to women. If people follow you just keep driving till they can't anymore, but always flipping them off.

Good act 1: Bring Coffee and Donuts for everyone but just set them down and don't allow people the time to thank you or offer to pay you back or whatever, say as little as possible.

Bad Act 2: Find that dog that is always barking in your neighborhood while the owner is away, and terrorize the **** out of the dog, hit it with a stick if you want to, just make it pissed off. Make it meaner than **** and just leave.

Good act 2: Give 20 dollars to the cash register person and ask them for change in quarters, then right in front of them put each coin individually into the collection jars, it's especially good if there are people waiting.

Bad Act 3: This one is a wild card, but here is something you can do that will help you later. Get dressed up as White trash as you can, get yourself real dirty and roll in stuff if possible, then go to the Big 5 or other sporting good store. While you are there, just look at the guns with a sort of 'far away look', shaking and twitching. Deny help as many times as you can, but stay in one spot the whole time. Then after nearly half an hour, go up to the asst supervisor and plead for help, use '****' and 'Jesus Christ' as many times as you can while you purchase an air rifle and huge amounts of pellets and BB's. Speed in the parking lot, flip off someone if possible. When you get home, get acquainted with your "lil' boom stick", make sure you aim is good, this will be important later.

Good act 3: Buy a pizza and bring it to the bookstore and say 'you know, this pizza guy just gave this to me and I already ate, would you take it?" if they accept it great, but if they don't just go and give it to another establishment, don't accept money and stay as little time as possible.

Don't sleep this night, read as much philosophy or propoganda'ish material as possible, the internet is great for that ****. Drink a lot of tea.


Day 4:

Hopefully you didn't sleep, but if you did make sure you got up early and promptly. Go and take a run, a long one, so that you are exhausted when you get back. Don't shower and don't shave.

Bad Act 1: Go to the store, but before hand fill your pockets with random trinkets, the weirder the better. Buy something like 4 grapes or one Tab soda, or something else really random. Then when it's time to pay, look at her for a second and then start rummaging through your pockets, act really worried. Then pull out one of the trinkets and offer her a trade for whatever it is you are purchasing. Keep going and ask her to call her manager, say 'man, I really need this but all I have are these guitar picks', he will not give in and you shouldn't either, get frustrated and finally pull out your check book, when she asks for your drivers license be reluctant and say that you don't have one, she will be damn angry and they will have probably asked you to leave several times, do it but call them a bunch of racist Nazi's. Everyone will wonder what is happening and you have to keep up the yelling all the way to the car.

Good act 1: Go to the coffee shop you visited on Day 2 and order a medium latte with heavy cream if possible. Pay for it with a 20 and just walk away when she tries to give you back the money. She will try in vain to get your attention, don't give in to her, and just walk out ignoring everyone.

Bad Act 2: Show up extremely late to work and walk in scowling at everyone, don't answer any questions, just mutter and look only at your feet. Everyone will be worried but you won't answer any questions. If your manager starts talking to you change the mood totally, be happy, but after he leaves continue snapping at everyone. Leave early from work if possible. Just shrug your shoulders if asked why you are late, but don't answer the 'are you ok?' type questions, people will be very concerned. Go home and shower.

Good act 2: Buy a bunch of flowers and hand them to the most beautiful woman you see. Don't say anything more than 'will you accept these?" Make sure you are very abrupt when you walk away and don't turn around for ANY reason. Don't do it if her boyfriend or husband is right there.

Bad Act 3: Buy a can of red Krylon Spray paint. When it is Dark go and Spray paint something awful on a wall that you pass everyday, make sure it is just ****ing rude and mean, something that people will gawk at and be pissed off, something that would even piss off you.

Good act 3: Go to a bar, sit next to a semi-attractive girl. Do not make any come ons, pretend for a second that sex would actually make you ill and pretend you hate it, this will help you out. Talk about everything besides sex. Buy her many drinks, don't ask for her number and don't give you hers even if she asks. If she comes on to you, just look really surprised and even be offended, this will be a good time to leave.

 

[saber]

Bad Act 4: Use your handy dandy pellet rifle and roam the streets of your neighborhood shooting out streetlights, car windows, or another building windows. DO NOT shoot at houses or anywhere where you could draw attention to yourself, be careful but make sure you have made visible damage.

Ok, this is the right amount of good/bad actions you should be doing on a daily basis. Hopefully with the oscillation of emotions from the different actions you should start to feel numb about them. You are on the right start.

This weekend will be an important step: Your focus will be on reversing emotions.

You must take any action that would normally cause you pain or sadness and tell yourself how good it feels. You need to do your good actions as if they are actually doing harm to those you do them for. You will also start to associate the different actions.

Over the next 3 days you should accomplish:
Shoot one bird and be happy about it, go to the Dog Pound, find the cutest puppy and regard it as evil.
Steal something and justify it.
Cook a large meal for someone less fortunate, then later drink a bottle of castor oil and force vomit over a large plate of food at a restaurant.
If you see someone at a bus stop, offer him or her a ride, they usually won't accept but ask until it happens. Pretend you hate the person in the car internally, but be SUPER polite to them, even go outside and open their door. Then when they get out and you drive away, tell them to **** themselves.
Drink heavily, very heavily. Then go to a park and talk to children, the parents will freak.
Just start picking up trash in a public park, don't answer any questions. Donate blood as well.
Slap yourself, cut yourself, hurt yourself, but regard it as 'masturbation', trick yourself into enjoying it.
Watch your favorite movie four times in one day.
Hopefully you should now realize that feelings or emotions are not directly associated to actions. With this knowledge you now have the ability to do things without feeling anything. You know you are detached from feelings if you do the same action twice with feeling both good and bad feelings about it. Then when you do it the third time, you feel nothing. You will no longer have a value of "good/bad". Everything will just be things, you will have an open mind. The important thing is to still continue to do both good and evil actions.


Day 8:

This is Monday; you will notice that even though you have had the weirdest week of your entire life, you feel recharged but nothing more. You don't feel bad or good or even in between, you just don't feel. Live your day normally, but you notice that you don't care as you once did. Everything seems easier to deal with and is no longer stressful. Go out to eat tonight and don't tip your waiter. Give a homeless man the tip that you were going to give to the waiter.


Day 9:

Go to a bookstore and pick a fairly well known classic and sit there and read it for as long as the store is open. It will be you and the closing clerk there alone. Hopefully it is a women, tell her that you can't pay for the book but you love it so much. Give her your watch as collateral. Order a huge amount of flowers for her but when you come in to pay for the book and collect your watch be surprised about the flowers. Persists that you did not buy them but you really appreciate her kindness about the book. If she asks for your information or suggests that you should go out sometime, just look disgusted and walk away. On the way home that night pull up next to someone walking, start pretending to get directions but when they start insult them repeatedly and threaten their life. Drive away fast.


Day 10:

Don't go to work, call in sick if you have to. Drink tea ALL DAY. Find a pad of paper and start writing or drawing. Draw/Write the weirdest most convoluted stuff you can come up with, paste it all over your room. If you aren't thinking to yourself in some way 'man, I'm ****ing crazy' than you aren't doing it right. Just repeat the week over until you can be in denial and know it. Yes your crazy, yes you know it, but it is sooo fun.

Now that you are totally detached from the externalities of a social culture and you are totally void of feelings or guilt, you are on your way. Upkeep can be less frequent. Be unpredictable in your actions or moods. Don't keep the same face on twice with the same person. Love someone passionately that you don't know, hate someone passionately that you do know. Fight all the time; argue with everyone. Do charity and public service out of the blue without any reason. Don't have a favorite anything, try everything and be open minded about everything. Give someone your favorite book as a gift.

This plan has worked on about 7 or the 11 people that have tried it. Although there is great degrees on how they responded there was great general trends. The most important thing is that everyone is happy and their lives; which are greatly improved.

 

[TheHumanist]

I can't wait to hear what NickBe is gonna say...

 

[danielzxc]

Most people think of sociopaths in violent terms - murderers, serial killers - but noone ever thinks about the sociopaths who are able to easily manipulate the 'system' by lying, cheating, stealing without any inner mechanism or conscious beating them up inside.

Clearly you have done a lot of thinking about the "finer" qualities of sociopaths. So much so that I believe you've come to idolize them. I guess that's why the urge to start threads on them hits you every month or so.

But okay, let's think for a bit about sociopaths. And let us ask ourselves what makes civilization -- and all the benefits of living in civilization -- possible. The sociopath may be able to get ahead by cheating the system, but it's the non-sociopaths who make that system possible. It was men of a moral bent who brought order to chaos, not utterly self-absorbed socio/pyschopaths. Civilization depends on people who do care about consequences, who spend quite some time predicting the consequences of differing courses of action and then selecting the more beneficient ones. Sure, everybody cares about "number 1", but some people think it a good thing to care about numbers 2 to 6 billion, also. Maybe such people are "suckers", but I bet you you wouldn't like life much without them.

I say all that because it's pretty clear to me that the underlying message in these sociopath threads is "you want women? then you, too, should be a psychopath! (or at least act like one as much as you can)". I guess society has been heeding this message, because we're rapidly reaching the point (if we're not already there) where getting sex is considered pretty much the only important thing in life. And since getting more sex is more easily accomplished by deceit and utter lack of regard for consequences of actions, "sociopathic" kind of behavior more regularly takes place. The conclusion that all this causes a decline in civility is impossible to escape.

I once pointed out to you that sociopathic behavior is more prevalent in the lower strata of society. You took issue with that. But since inability or unwillingness to consider consequences is obviously a key part of the behavior you talk about, people for whom "thinking" and "reflecting" -- of the "deeper" kind -- is an alien or "nerdy" activity are far more likely to be seduced by the prospects more sex by following your kind of advice (and the "feels good? do it!" message of our popular culture).

 

[Luke Skywalker]

What's the point? We should start studying mass murders and rapists to learn how they seduce women and become better don juans? Hello?

 

[Last Man Standing]

so·ci·o·path /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθ, ˈsoʊʃi-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Psychiatry.
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

psy·cho·path (sī'kə-pāth') Pronunciation Key
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.


Your premise is contradictary to these definitions -- how is an anti-social mind "social" to the point of being acceptable?

 

[Bonez]

wow

saber, did you think of those ideas all on your own?


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[Create Reality]

this **** is comedy gold.

 

[ketostix]

so·ci·o·path /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθ, ˈsoʊʃi-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Psychiatry.
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

psy·cho·path (sī'kə-pāth') Pronunciation Key
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.


Your premise is contradictary to these definitions -- how is an anti-social mind "social" to the point of being acceptable?

Well "anti-social" is not synonmous with "unsocial". They are two different concepts.

A while back I once was watching a program with intellectual talking about society, I don't remember what program it was. And one expert I think he was an anthropologist, but I don't remember what his profession was. Anyway, he said something to the effect, women are chosing the mate and are mating with basically sociopaths, causing society to be filled by these types of people.

This certainly jives with the common experience that women don't like good guys or nice guys. Maybe women are naturally and universally attracted to men with a devious mind lol?

 

[WaterTiger]

This certainly jives with the common experience that women don't like good guys or nice guys. Maybe women are naturally and universally attracted to men with a devious mind lol?

Women are attracted to power. Socio/psychpaths are usually the type of guy that other men are afraid of or, at least, respectful toward. Now who do you think the girl is going to pick? They guy on his knees saying "Yes Master" or the man standing there saying "Bow before me or die!"

 

[jimmyjack]

Hum alpha man you are good i love that tell us more.

 

[ketostix]

Women are attracted to power. Socio/psychpaths are usually the type of guy that other men are afraid of or, at least, respectful toward. Now who do you think the girl is going to pick? They guy on his knees saying "Yes Master" or the man standing there saying "Bow before me or die!"

In order to have power one usually has to be a sociopath?

 

[MooseGod]

I think the biggest point to be expounded in this thread is that correlation does not imply causation. Just because a good majority of sociopaths possess certain traits that women may find attractive doesn't mean that only sociopaths possess those traits. The main thing is just not to be some wussy that is easily influenced by outside opinions, be they women, other men, society as a whole, the government, or whomever.

 

[saber]

wow i completely forgot about this article and no I didn't think this up

I am still hesitant about trying it because I think I have begun to understand why sociopaths do so well without going through with it...

A sociopath doesn't get caught up in the moment and is removed from the situation.

This prevents emotions/fear from clouding your judgement or actions and would create a very cold, calculating and self serving person. A sociopath would dominate any social situation because of this so it is very true that we are all here to move towards this model whether you like it or not.

The saying "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" relates to when someone begins to become so influencial and self serving that they go too far and draw lots of attention bad attention by starting a cult and killing some people.

So in my opinion to be a great don juan you must be a sociopath...and to be a great sociopath you have to not get caught by the player haters...lol

 

[WaterTiger]

In order to have power one usually has to be a sociopath?

No, but sociopaths are GOOD at holding positions of power once they get them.

Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, ....several US Presidents (who shall remain nameless ) They are good leaders of revolutions and wars, because they aren't afraid to use violence to achieve their goals. If the goals are achieved, the people will follow them, support them, :cheer: cheer them on...and hope never to get on their bad side. :nervous:

Humans love the darkness in our own souls, Hannibal Lecter is almost a cult hero. Real serial killers get love letters from women (How nutty is that??:crazy: ??) I'll bet you can name 10 guys who would love to have a wolf or a tiger for a pet, but not one that wants a bunny.

 

[Falcon]

No, but sociopaths are GOOD at holding positions of power once they get them.

Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, ....several US Presidents (who shall remain nameless ) They are good leaders of revolutions and wars, because they aren't afraid to use violence to achieve their goals. If the goals are achieved, the people will follow them, support them, :cheer: cheer them on...and hope never to get on their bad side. :nervous:

Humans love the darkness in our own souls, Hannibal Lecter is almost a cult hero. Real serial killers get love letters from women (How nutty is that??:crazy: ??) I'll bet you can name 10 guys who would love to have a wolf or a tiger for a pet, but not one that wants a bunny.

wow