zekko said:
I think the OP has a point. So many guys are willing to flush themselves down the toilet and adopt completely new personalities that they don't even really believe in, all just so they can get laid. If that's not pedestalizing, I don't know what is.
It's fine if the changes are made to actually improve yourself. But to try and make yourself into a jerk or @sshole just because you think it will bring you more tail, that's pretty fvcked up.
Earlier today I spoke with a new potential client.. I contacted him because at it's face, he wanted something done that we do quite well. Now as some of you have seen first hand with my extremely meticlous nature, I spent about 2-3 hours putting a package together for him to show him what we can do, scope of what we will do and all that good ****.
The guy basically, not 10 mintues later, emails me and says well, this is great but i'm not reading all this ****, this is too much i just want to know if you can do the project or not, can you please just redo all this and send me a price and that's it.
Now... See.. 4 years ago I would have done just that. however, with some experience under my belt I sat back and put the entire puzzle together
1. the guy said when i first contacted him that he had been through a bunch of developers and that none of them could do what he wants. and honestly the project wasn't hard whatsoever. I mean, it was programming an online magazine, and while that's not.. easy.. it's not so hard to where you should runt hrough 10 programmers to get it done.
2. the guy could not cohereantly tell me exactly what he wanted... he sent me some photoshop files of a site that was already designed.. and honestly the design wasn't half bad at all, but then told me he wabnted it redesigned on top of all that,
to make a long story short i told him hoenstly.. this just isn't gonna work. And he didn't take that very well, he thought i was being rude or a prude or arrogant but it's nothing like that.
In doing this, and just in life in general I've learned, the very hard way, that it's never, ever worth it to change the way you do things, the way you are, the way you operate for someone else.
not only that, the client was showing me first hand, that he was litearlly incapable of getting this job done.. he can't tell me what he wants and he refuses to read anyone's proposal who actually knows what they are doing.. so he calls all these guys up and waits for the guy who just tells him what he wants to hear, sends him 500-1000-2000 dollars ro whatever to get started the guy puts his thumb up his ass and a month later he hasn't gotten jack **** done.
To make matters worse, this is the same client who will in a month tell everyone he knows how he can't find a good developer or a good team, yet in reality it's all his fault.
I'm going to tell you exactly what would have happened had i taken the project. He would have first, got me to come down on my price, beucase I never sold him on the project in the first place. Beducase he refuses to read teh proposal he won't sign a contract beucase my contract is my proposal. That means, that in 2 weeks once we have spent 20 or 30 hours working on the project, and it's not anywhere where he wants it, because the guy has no clue how to communicate what he wants, he would have demanded his money back and would have called me every name in the book and not only do I have to pay him his money back I still have to pay my employees. Allt hat just to get a job. If you have any foresight whatsoever it's not worth it. there was literally no possible way this job would have been successful.
Because I refused to bend on what I wanted to do, I not only got rid of him.. the time it would have taken me to revise his proposal to the semesi street version, I actually spoke with another client, put together his proposal and got the job.
What is the purpose of this Backbreaker fabel you might ask lol?
1. Your time is better spent looking for women who fit what youw ant than wasting it with someone who doesn't fit what you want. The time you are driving in a dead in is time you could have been on the freeway.
2. It's not my fault the guy can't see the value in the work that we do.. The worst thing you can do in that situtation is bend to make him happy beucase in the end, it cheapens what you do, and it lowers your self esteem.
Sometimes, **** just isn't going to work out. You just need to cut your loses and move on.
The most important thing you can learn in this ****, is that a lay is only a good lay, a satisfying lay, when you get it the right way. A lay you get by succumbing to whatever changes she wants you to make or being fake hurts more than it helps. The quicker you learn this the better off you are going to be. doing whatever you have to, changing who you are what you are, to get laid is no better than jacking off.
Why is that messed up? If improving yourself doesn't work, and no helps you out, you have to do what you have to do to close the deal.
You think the world is so honest and trustworthy? People don't care about anything unless its money or sex. Sometimes you have to trick people, dumb them down, play your cards, in order to get what you want. Don't think improving yourself will get laid, women don't care. They just care if you close the deal right there and then. I'd rather lie to a girl and get laid in 5 min than work 10 months on her to show how I am such a hard worker. Unless you are marrying her, do what you have to do to close the deal, legally.
I wouldn't make a living arguing against zekko he knows his ****. You might want to listen
