So now if you nail a drunk chick, it's "gray rape"?

[MatureDJ]

What happens if I'm just as drunk? Shouldn't she be guilty as well?

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_11081756?nclick_check=1

Such a woman of fine upstanding chastity ...

A Carroll, Iowa, woman who was caught having sex at an Iowa Hawkeyes football game Saturday night at the Metrodome in Minneapolis said she'd had so much wine before kickoff that she doesn't remember walking into a men's restroom, the man she had sex with in a stall or the police opening the door.

Some articles about "gray rape":

http://jezebel.com/gossip/shades-of...jaeger-shots-to-remember-it-anyway-293875.php

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/03/15/battling_the_myth_of_gray_rape/

 

[L B]

Glad I don't drink. Someone explain to me why alcohol is so much fun. It seems to add drama and complication to one's life. If you can't live life happily being sober, how the hell can alcohol help?

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Worse part of the story :

Feldman said her husband, Kelly, has been supportive. She said he faults himself for not going with her when she left her seat to use the restroom before halftime.

Anyway, anybody who has sex with a girl who is super drunk is a douche to begin with.

That being said, I don't feel bad for these girls. How hard is it not to put yourself in these situations?

Even as a 6'3", 240 lb former Marine, I always stop drinking BEFORE I get to the point where I couldn't fight off an attacker or defend myself if needed. How hard is it for a girl to stop drinking BEFORE she passes out in a room full of horny frat guys?

And as far as just being drunk but not passed out (like the wh*re in the story), there is simply NO WAY to pass the blame. Even when drunk, you still know right from wrong. Yeah, you may be impaired but you still know that you can't go around robbing, killing, vandalizing, and FCKING anybody you want.

 

[dark god]

Anyway, anybody who has sex with a girl who is super drunk is a douche to begin with.

QUOTE]

Hows that being a super douche? Soooooooo if some "super drunk" girl is throwing herself at me I cant sleep with her because the white knight code says thats not cool? right.Sounds like guilt trip feminist rational.

 

[Duffdog]

Remember this:

You are not going to be convicted of rape if you are more attractive than the female. Every lawyer and judge knows that the jury always sides with the more attractive person in matters of sexual differences. Its true in sexual harassment cases as well, but don't expect to see this play out in any movies or tv shows.

If you have ever been to a rape trial, you know that both sides bring on the tears during the interviews and cross examinations. But strangely, in the cases where the more attractive male was acquitted, the juries are typically female dominated.

This should come as no surprise to a DJ. We all know that females are incapable of pure logic-- so they simply assert that this attractive guy couldn't possibly do anything wrong (being so attractive and all) and since the female juror hasn't had sex with him yet, this chic accusing him of rape is probably just upset that he won't commit to her after a night of screaming orgasms.

But-- if he wasn't attractive, he's guilty anyways because no girl would knowingly want to have sex with this guy...

 

[backbreaker]

more than once a woman who i no way in hell would have slept with sober has gotten me liquored up and screwed me. it happens.

women take it ther however, when you don't want to keep screwing them they cry rape. women suck.

you would be very very surprised how AFC a woman can be when she sees soemthing she can't have but really wants. they put men to shame in AFCism.

 

[kingsam]

Glad I don't drink. Someone explain to me why alcohol is so much fun. It seems to add drama and complication to one's life. If you can't live life happily being sober, how the hell can alcohol help?

theres a giid reason its called social lubricant
-confidence
-lack of anxiety

 

[squirrels]

There have been stories about this before. There are some times when a man just ought to know better. Like when a woman comes stumbling into his stall drunk as p!ss and starts trying to f**k him.

I have never heard the term "gray rape".

I know if you nail a drunk dude it's "gay rape".

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Anyway, anybody who has sex with a girl who is super drunk is a douche to begin with.

Hows that being a super douche? Soooooooo if some "super drunk" girl is throwing herself at me I cant sleep with her because the white knight code says thats not cool? right.Sounds like guilt trip feminist rational.

There's a big difference sleeping with a drunk girl who is throwing herself at you and one who can barely walk or is passed out.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Semper Fi Teflon, I was 3rd AAVs out of Pendleton.

The only time I drink anymore is at Shriner events (those old men can fvcking drink now!). I used to be in a bar every friday and saturday night, getting buzzed until I felt good enough about myself to escalate the girl who was already throwing herself at me anyway.

My, how times have changed.

I actually went to a bar last night, I haven't been out in months and what the hell. It seemed like a stupid scene of stupid drama people blowing their stupid paycheck and then getting in fights when they don't get laid. Since I made the decision that I was going to be successful without crutches, since I started making smart decisions with regards to money, investing, my health, and my life, I have less and less desire to slum around in bars. I'm not totally against them, as it's awesome to pull a hot ONS, but come on, this is what so many people LIVE for.

When I go to a bar, I am reminded how I have no competition save for the guy in the mirror. That scene is a big barrel of underachieving crabs.

 

[game.r]

Semper Fi Teflon, I was 3rd AAVs out of Pendleton.

The only time I drink anymore is at Shriner events (those old men can fvcking drink now!). I used to be in a bar every friday and saturday night, getting buzzed until I felt good enough about myself to escalate the girl who was already throwing herself at me anyway.

My, how times have changed.

I actually went to a bar last night, I haven't been out in months and what the hell. It seemed like a stupid scene of stupid drama people blowing their stupid paycheck and then getting in fights when they don't get laid. Since I made the decision that I was going to be successful without crutches, since I started making smart decisions with regards to money, investing, my health, and my life, I have less and less desire to slum around in bars. I'm not totally against them, as it's awesome to pull a hot ONS, but come on, this is what so many people LIVE for.

When I go to a bar, I am reminded how I have no competition save for the guy in the mirror. That scene is a big barrel of underachieving crabs.

I've had the same experience. I have almost no desire to go to clubs anymore, And i have not been drunk in forever.

 

[backbreaker]

man spot on JS. spot on my man.

There are women like that too not just men. my first apartment ever, the woman who toured me was porn star hot, donna something was her name. god i'd nail that. anyway, when i say i saw her EVERWHERE i went when i went out i am not exaggerating. it was not an event unless she was there. late 20's early 30's at the time. it's like people like that LIVE for friday night.

there is actually a pretty recent race horse named mrsaturdaynight.

You do not want to be mr saturday night.
I do to bars now actually to listen to music, i'm a jazz nut so a few times a month i go out to jazz bars and take in the scene might have a drink or to but I don't go for the sole purpose to snag tail (not at all actually i'm hitched). or if there is a good event sporting event I do not like to watch sporting events alone so I will go to a sports bar, eat some good bar food, and have some fun, kick back.

but going out on a friday night to the same ****ing bar, wearing the same freaking clothes and hitting on the same low life *****s gets very old if you are progressing in life.

 

[squirrels]

Semper Fi Teflon, I was 3rd AAVs out of Pendleton.

The only time I drink anymore is at Shriner events (those old men can fvcking drink now!). I used to be in a bar every friday and saturday night, getting buzzed until I felt good enough about myself to escalate the girl who was already throwing herself at me anyway.

My, how times have changed.

I actually went to a bar last night, I haven't been out in months and what the hell. It seemed like a stupid scene of stupid drama people blowing their stupid paycheck and then getting in fights when they don't get laid. Since I made the decision that I was going to be successful without crutches, since I started making smart decisions with regards to money, investing, my health, and my life, I have less and less desire to slum around in bars. I'm not totally against them, as it's awesome to pull a hot ONS, but come on, this is what so many people LIVE for.

When I go to a bar, I am reminded how I have no competition save for the guy in the mirror. That scene is a big barrel of underachieving crabs.

Depends a lot on the places you go to and the times you go out. Look for bars/clubs that draw a more "upscale" crowd, places with a cover and a "dress-to-impress" dress code.

I've noticed that as I've gotten older, college-bars appeal less to me than they used to. Depending on where, it's nice to see people cutting loose and having fun, but it IS missing SOMETHING in terms of maturity. I hate having to choose between maturity and enthusiasm...it seems for the typical retard, the two are often mutually exclusive.

I honestly wish there were more attractive single women in my circles of friends. Those are the BEST situations to get women in...there's already an element of mutual trust and respect, plus women have been pre-screened...just by being friends with your friends indicates that they can't be COMPLETE 'tards.

Getting back to the topic, it's not hard to tell the difference between having-fun drunk and OMG-I-have-no-idea-where-I-am drunk.

According to the story, this woman stumbled into a men's restroom. This isn't a case where a guy and a girl went out, partied, and headed home together, then she had buyer's remorse and f*cked him over. This is a case where an obviously incapacitated woman passed out in a strange place and some arsehole said to himself, "hey, if no one finds out, it beats jerking off". The man/men who took advantage of her were wrong, plain and simple, and while the woman's behavior is inexcusable, it does not mandate that ANYONE is justified in taking advantage of her in that way.

 

[backbreaker]

I remember when I was 21 years old.. I had a delima.

with my old oneitis.

I had been wanting to nail that **** for 6 years lol. She was on the outs with her man, i was single, we had been uping the ante flirting big time, we go to a strip club one night and she gets absolutely **** faced. so **** faced she got on stage (and made money lol, even got asked back by the staff lol). WE had been drowning jagger bombs all nightg long, plus white russians and cosmos.

So we get in my car and she literarly, takes off her shirt, hops in my lap while i'm driving cowboy style and starts licking me on my neck and telling me she wants me to **** her.


First, I had to obviously figure out how to pull over lol, she was blocking the window. But secondly, as bad as I wanted to **** this woman (and I eventually did in due time)... this was not her. I knew it. I did not take her out with the intention to get her **** faced and hope to get laid.

Damn, that was hard, to make it worse, she had drove to my house, no way in hell was she driving home so she slept with me that night. so i had to listen to her all night tell me to **** her, grabbing my ****, making me put her hand on her breasts and ****, and try to use some type of clarity, because damnit that's not how i wanted to win the game i want to win it fair and square, and god knows what her crazy ass would have said had I did it when she woke up.

we never brought it back up but I could tell she really appreciated it afterwards and in due time, not that much longer actually a month or so I tagged that ass six ways to sunday, sober as a mofo.

 

[WaterTiger]

I have very little pity for these women actually. No one put a gun to their heads and forced them to drink vodka shots, no one forced them to the party. But then the guys are suppoded to "rescue" and "protect" them.

Idiots.....

 

[spider_007]

I"m a part time bartender.

Many times i've ****ed blocked a guy that was trying to take a drunk woman home.

It just looks wrong (from a sobber point of view) ....Chick can barly walk and is leaning up on averything beside her and looks like she barly knows where she is....and a guy is trying to lead her out of my bar. No ****in' way. Not classy.

It's easy to pick up a chick whose defences are down....try and be a fvckin' man and seduce her sobber.

 

[spider_007]

delete me

 

[zekko]

Does anyone here know for sure how drunk she was?
Or how drunk the man was?
Who initiated?

These are very important questions to consider before we rush to judgement of the man.

I agree. It seems to me that it takes a very little bit of alcohol to get a lot of chicks horny. They can always say afterwards that they were drunker than they really were (someone posted here something about backward rationalizing recently - was it Jophil?). Obviously it isn't right to take advantage of a girl who can hardly walk. But what if she's a little tipsy and throwing herself at you?

 

[typical]

I remember in High School and college, how girls would get "very drunk" and then proceed to blatantly hit on and eventually fvck the guy they had a crush on.

Then the next day they would conveniently say "I drank so much last night, I can't believe I did that".

I always looked at it as their anti-slut defense. She was "drunk" so it didn't matter. It seems they can play that card for other uses too.....like making it the man's fault instead of hers.

Mate this was happening to me back in highschool at the age of 17 and now 10 years on I still see women pull the same card out "I was drunk, he took advantage of me" total crap I say.