Should I call out my friend on his Sh*t ???

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I found something interesting about one of my closest friends the other day.... but allow me to fill you in on the background information first.


I purchased an expensive polo on ebay this past spring because I could get it on there for cheaper than what I would pay in a major store and because of the fact that there was no outlet to buy it in my town. Needless to say I was the only one with the particular shirt and it got me a lot of compliments from girls impressed by my style. At the time, the friend in question complimented it too, but he gets jealous very easily so I could tell he wished he had thought to buy it first.


Fastforward a few months and this friend buys one for himself in a different colour off ebay. Which was fair enough, I don't claim to have a patent on the shirt. Shortly thereafter however, he bought two more, but this time told me that he had got a relative to purchase them for him from a store for retail price. Again, not that big a deal, except for the fact that he now publicly stated that the one he had first bought on ebay was a cheap fake in comparison, and that thus, mine must be fake too. From then on he only wore the two shirts which had been "purchased from the boutique and sent to him by his relatives." I compared shirts with him and could find no difference in fabric or tags but he was unwavering in his claim that everything off ebay was a cheap knock-off.


From then on, it seemed that almost every week he recieved another expensive, high quality garment from his relatives and when asked why they kept sending these $50-100 items for no particular reason, he just claimed that they were rich and it wasn't a big deal. For every item he had specific details on which boutique it was bought from, and for how much. This began to really aggravate me (as well as my other friends) who agreed that it was extremely ostentacious of him to keep getting so many new, expensive items and to be openly bragging about them. I mean, it wasn't like all the shyt he was recieving was really nice, it was just expensive and excessive (especially for a guy who not long ago sported just casual athletic clothing). At this point I figured it was pretty obvious that he had a full blown inferiority complex, and figured he'd stop after the novelty of owning something we didn't wore off.


WRONG


As of today, he's recieved at least 10 items, all of which supposedly came with hefty price tags and from expensive retailers. That is, until I stumbled upon his ebay account and discovered that ALL his items had been purchased off ebay, and for a fraction of what he claimed!


Understandably, I was pissed. Here is this guy I've been tight with for over 6 years who had been flat out LYING to me about where his merchandise was coming from. How dare he insult my intelligence by making such BS claims? How dare he try to make me feel poor by flashing all his expensive cothes and making up BS figures for the price. And most of all, how dare he state that my shirt was fake because I bought it on ebay, when it turns out that his supposed "authentic" shirts were bought on ebay as well, AND he even paid less for his than I did for mine!


My first instinct was to call him out on his shyt the next time I saw him or heard from him, but the more I thought about it, the more I figured that it was best not to go about it that way. I did however show another close friend of ours the link exposing him, and he was as equally disgusted as I was.


The thing is, I don't have a clue how I should go about bringing this up with him. On one hand I'm thinking:


-This is a guy I've known for 6 years, spent a ton of time around, and I risk losing his friendship if I expose him and then he becomes too ashamed to be around us anymore. Because let's be honest, it's not like I'm busting him for ditching me to hang out with a girl one night, but rather for openly decieving me and our other friends for months regarding numerous items. There will be no easy way for him to play off 10 items, and there will definately be a time when it's really awkward for him to be around us, knowing that he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. He was likely making the false claims to feel better about himself because of the fact that myself and our other friends are more successful than him socially, with girls, and had a much more sophisticated fashion sense before he started buying like crazy. Truth be told, I just can't see him having the maturity and social graces to be able to recover from this exposure as the same friend we used to know and trust. In other words, I think it's likely he might just distance himself from us until he's completely out of the picture so he can hang with people who he thinks might still respect him. And what's this over anyways? Clothes? Seems pretty trivial...


-But on the other hand, I'm thinking that it's my duty to totally call him out on his shyt, and expose him as the fraud he is. Afterall, he's caught red handed, and there' no way for him to deny any of the allegations when the evidence is so readily available. Not to mention the fact that I won't be able to look at him the same until this dilemma is out in the open and dealt with. I would have had no problem with him buying expensive shyt on ebay and I wouldn't have thought any less of him if he wanted to save a few bucks doing it that way. But the fact that he would lie about where he was getting his items, lie about how much he was paying for them, and still have the nerve to tell me that MY shyt is fake and I'm a sucker for buying on ebay just blows my mind. I've already lost tons of respect for him over this, and the only way he can gain any back is if he completely confesses, apologizes, and stops buying everything like he's in some sort of ratrace with us.


I can't see why he would suddenly stop his buying frenzy now and I don't think I can take it if he mentions one more time how cool it is that he's just recieved yet ANOTHER expensive polo/sweater/dress shirt from his cousin/aunt/sister bought from Macy's/Holt Renfrew/[Insert expensive boutique].


Guys, I'm turning to you to help me find a resolution, and preferably some middle ground to this dilemma. I DO want him to stop this facade, but I DON'T want to lose his friendship.


In some ways I'm extremely proud of myself for discovering his fraud, but at the same time, I think I'd be happier if I hadn't.


Thanks for reading this (became much longer than I anticipated), and I'd really appreciate some insightful responses, especially from those who may have found themselves in a similar situation at one time or another.
 

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Blackmail him about his dirty little secret.

Or find something... worthwhile... to worry about.
 

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talk to him about "the braging". Tell him that it's getting really anoying. Maybe he'll stop buying all the shirts once he realizes he is crossing the line. If he starts *****ing, send him home, and then send him a link to his account, along with the simple words: "we know" this way, you can't get in a fight with him.....

the reall problem is that hi is anoying you with all this ****. If you can't get him to stop by talking to him about it, then call him out...
 

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I'd say just bring it up between you and him. Tell him you know about his B.S. and that it doesn't bother you. Just make it clear that no one else knows, and that he should just stop bragging about it, cause it isn't impressing anyone.

If that doesn't smarten him up, then expose him.

you guys are dumb.... this sounds like something a bunch of chicks would get worked up about.

who fvcking cares?


It's another form of "d!ck fear" , I'd say.
 

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If he's going to be lying to you like that, then break up with him sister!


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cliffs notes
 

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lol :crackup:
 

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Hey dude,

Even though this is girl-drama esque it is still an interesting question nonetheless.

You can be a d1ck and call him out on all this **** in front of all your friends. Granted this would feel really satisfying. You pulled some Sherlock Holmes sh1t and this would be the most obvious fruit of all your labors. I conjecture this is what 90% of the population would do.

But Don't Do This.

Call him up and meet him for lunch. Tell him you know about all the fuvked up sh1t he's done. This is to be done as briefly as possible, just enough so that he knows that YOU know the whole scary truth. Then tell him you don't give a **** and that he doesn't have to feel like he has to try to impress everybody, because everybody likes him a lot better when he's not talking about himself. Tell him you are still boys when you leave. Call him out the next time you go to a party/bar. You don't ever have to acknowledge the **** ever happened. Seriously, forget about it and just concentrate on you, in two weeks this will matter a lot less.

This is much better than exposing him publicly. Remember, if you tell all your friends his dirty laundry that reflects negatively on you as a person. Do not gossip about other people. No good will come out of it. If your experiences are similar to mine, then you know someone that constantly talks sh1t on other people. Even people that are his friends. You know this guy is talking sh1t about you to the very same people he's badmouthing when in your company. He is a conniving jackal. You however, are the mutha-fuvkin man and you aren't fazed by girl drama like this.

Let everyone know that not only are you willing to forgive and forget, knowing that even awesome people make HUGE mistakes sometimes, but also someone a person can confide in without fear of being exposed in whatever way.
 

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Wow. That's pretty gay. You might want to try caring less about stuff like this.
 

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knowing that he's just ordering it from ebay should be enough satisfaction lol... now the choice is just let him make a fool of himself or tell him to cool off with it


but seriously this is a total ***** issue
 

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Looking back over my original message, I can see how what I wrote could have been percieved as nothing but a "bytch" issue.


It certainly didn't help that the question at hand stemmed from a "clothes" related issue, nor did it help that I gave the impression that I genuinely gave a shyt about his feelings on a site so concerned with the "Alpha" mindset. Not to mention the fact that I complicated the issue with more details than necessary.


But with that established, the underlying issue is not "pu$$y" in any way, shape or form. Ultimately, it's a moral dilemma concerning whether I jeopardize the friendship with one of my long time bros by calling him out on his lies, or bite my tongue and continue to reap the benefits of his friendship at the expense of knowing he's often completely full of shyt.


For those that wanted cliffnotes, here goes:

Long time friend has been bragging about buying a lot of expensive new clothes. In the process, he's tried to gain an air of superiority by showing off and degrading the clothes of myself and others. I discovered that he's secretly been buying all his clothes from ebay for much cheaper than he would like to have us believe he paid. I want to put a stop to his actions of buying and bragging, but most importantly, it is his lying about it that I can't stand. I'm looking for a way to resolve this issue without completely humiliating him such that we never speak again.


Since not everything in life falls into the category of being resolved by "kino, strong eye contact and an Alpha attitude," I'm asking what you guys would do as his "friend" in this situation. I find nothing girly about politics between guys.


Of the helpful comments I have recieved, I have to give props to Spider and Bad Ass for their simple but effective suggestions, both of which I'll keep in mind (Bad Ass you're going to have to explain this "d1ck fear").


And I really appreciated the reply I got from you, Brosnake. Your response was insightful and you really seemed to be in the intelligent minority who understood what I was getting at with this thread. Your solution was exactly what I was looking for and I don't think it could be settled much better. I agree with you that publicly humiliating him would be the most common response, but I would only get momentary satisfaction from doing that, and it would no doubt result in him despising me when it was all said and done. Once again, you seem like a real class act yourself and I'm really glad you took the time to give your $.02.


Once again guys, the issue at hand is not "omg my bethtest guy friend hath been out shopping and he forgot to invite me! That bytch! I think I'm going to give him the thilent treatment for a week and go light some candles and eat a tub of Chunky Monkey to make mythelf feel fabulouth again," but rather, "I caught my friend in a lie.....now what?"
 

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Let it slide. So your friend is retarded and has to buy things of ebay and claim it came from other places to feel good about himself. If he calls that a victory then you should pity your friend not harrass him. I'd just let him go on living in his own little dream world but becareful he doesn't spawn a whole train of lies like this.

One of my room mates lives in his own little world and lies all the time. I call him on his shyt a bunch but that's because he knows that when he lies that much I'm gonna have to call him out from time to time and rib some fun at him

Don't be a valley girl. The only time I'd be pissed about something like this is if he went bragging to hot girls about the situation. And even then I'd just wait till he left and then I'd laugh and explain to them about his dilusions. Other then that I'd just take this one in stride.
 

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D!ck fear is simply a matter of your friend feeling inadequate and thinks that he has to "one up" you and your friends soi that he can have the "bigger d1ck".

It's kinda like all the guys who go out and buy the really expensive car and all the really expensive toys but it all boils down to them feeling innadequate in other areas so they over compensate.

I hope that clarifies the figure of speech.
 

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She told him she diddn't have time for a relationship and that they should stay friends that had a chance to grow into lovers. He told her, "If I can't have you romantically, I can't have you at all." The man after a few nights his stomach felt like it was churning cement, His emotions grew too heavy and he cracked. "Hello? Can you ever forgive a fool like me?" he asked ."No, you have missed your chance!" "Hmm well I'll think about it" she replied. He later sees her around the city, she sees him and starts flirting with other guys sayin how she needs a man in her life. She walks past him "Im too self absorbed right now, you'll miss me when Im gone." It hit the man hard, just a few days a ago she told him she diddn't have time...she lied and now shes makin it known. The man was still a fool, Please give me one more chance he pleaded... "Well alright", she replied. The man was happy he had a hope left in his heart, hed call she seemed distant.She even went as far as to block the man on Aim. He confronted her I thought we were alright. "Oh I have problems in my life and things I cannot think about." The man thought, I got it, I will reply " I will give you space, and reply when you are ready". It then came to the man what did he do wrong? Why was she being so cruel. He tried his hardest and she diddn't seem like she cared, she probaly diddnt. He then deleted her myspace from his. She messaged him, how childish. He then replyed like blocking. He finally had the guts to face reality, Lets just move on with our lives goodbye and blocked her. She never had the intent of forgiving him at all. He knew and lost all hope, he had the power to rip out the chunk of heart she had left.

Well this basically happened to me, I learned alot of lessons from this. One-itis is a disease that clouds your instincts. That women are sweet but they can be just as cruel, I really never thought that women had it in them to do this. She lied about the relationship, and about forgivness and to smit the man with her messages. Well Im pissed and ready to become a greater man. I just wanted to share these two cents with you all.
 

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Originally posted by Teen Spirit
I purchased an expensive polo on ebay this past spring because I could get it on there for cheaper than what I would pay in a major store and because of the fact that there was no outlet to buy it in my town.
Isn’t your friend doing the same thing except for lying HOW he got it?

Originally posted by Teen Spirit
Needless to say I was the only one with the particular shirt and it got me a lot of compliments from girls impressed by my style. At the time, the friend in question complimented it too, but he gets jealous very easily so I could tell he wished he had thought to buy it first.
This right here is the main problem people. You are jealous because he has more money then you and is buying all these expensive clothes at a cheaper place taking away your thunder from the ladies. No longer are you getting all the compliments from the ladies because he is showing you up.

My question is how did you really “stumble” across on him buying it off of ebay? My guess is you didn’t accidentally stumble across it you purposely did so because again you are jealous.

Who cares how he gets his clothes. It’s still the same name brand if you get it off of Ebay. It doesn’t make it fake just because he was smart and got it outside of the retailer name brand store :rolleyes:


If it’s bugging you that he is lying how he got this crap then go up to him and tell him that you know he is full of crap and needs to stop with all this unnecessary girly actions to try to impress us. Or you can bust his balls in front of everybody it all depends if you care about the friendship.

And oh, the word is ostentatious. I think you just looked up the dictionary to impress us because it doesn’t go with your speech quality. Quite frankly and ironically it was kind of gay to use it.
 

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lol i dont think someone making a thread like this is in any place to call someone else "girly"
 

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