She's driving me INSANE!

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Been seeing on and off this girl for few months. ( I do that usually, and I rarely get in friendzone.)

First of all this one comes from conservative familly, mother of God, she is so much asexual I can't explain it.

No matter how much I try to make it sexual, she simply negates it. And she's doing almost NOTHING.

Now the weird thing is. On chat, she few times hinted that she likes me.

When we go outside she is talkative as hell, but NO KINO and almost NO SIGNS of attraction. She gave me 'THE LOOK' last time on bus station.

But I'm not sure about it, we were waiting for God damn bus and she was talking about history and some war.


Anyway we concluded that we are both weird. And she asked me why I 'phase out'. I told her I just listen sometimes and hate to talk. She responded that she 'feels' when I phase out and that there's something wrong and that she wants me to tell her.

I responded that certain things can't be told by words etc. BUT GOD DAMN ***** CONSTANTLY PUSHES MY FCKIN BUTTONS.

So I call her to hang outside, and lo behold. She can't ! But she obviously had time for some sh1tty band. Which even drives me more angry. :cuss:

- She didn't come to my gig -

Then she goes out of random apologizing if she hurt me and that it wasn't her intention bla bla when I go NC.


One of her constatations are like " I can't fall in love with someone who I don't know for long time "

Then another one goes " You grew to my heart really fast. "

Once inbetween the lines of chat she said explicitly that she LIKES me and that I'm knocking her off her feet.


I just disabled all God damn messaging systems. I need to cool myself before I do something stupid. She will probably either b1tch via SMS or find time to hang out. Or simply go on her stupid trip.


What do you guys think ?

P.S.

She constantly says WE, WE , WE.

"WE gotta go there. " " We gotta do this. " " We gotta watch this. "

She's constantly implicating watching movies with her (at her home I guess) and meeting her dad, but acts asexual.
 

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Personally, I'd just drop her and move on. But what exactly do you find appealing/attractive about this girl anyway?
 

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Honda1990 said:
Personally, I'd just drop her and move on. But what exactly do you find appealing/attractive about this girl anyway?
The fact from day 1 we kicked off incredibly well in convo's. Most girls I know can talk around an hour and half. With this one, I have no problems talking about anything and I never feel that 'awkward' silence. Plus the adventerous spirit.

When it comes to face etc. ye she is 'beautiful' by mosts standards. But I got used to it, so it's nothing special to me. It was first 15 minutes.
 

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How many dates have you been with her and still having banged her? (or even touched her shoulder)

If the answer is more than 2 move on.
 

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LMFAO said:
How many dates have you been with her and still having banged her? (or even touched her shoulder)

If the answer is more than 2 move on.

I'm not looking for slvt dude. More like a LTR because I always seem to break up after 1 month. Most girls are boring and they all post ultimatum with ' either we are in relationship or not'. Since they feel like slvts if it's 'open'.
 

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Gather yourself, man. Just take a moment and look at yourself, look at what this bytch is doing to you.

You're very frustrated. Like your title says, she is driving you INSANE!

In other words, you lost control. Your mind is no longer yours to control, no, she is controlling it!

Take a step back and gain back your control. That means saying to yourself "Fvck her, I don't need her!" Take your focus OFF her, forget about this cvnt. You get women when you stop caring about them, not when you chase after them.

If you keep chasing her at this point, you will not succeed anyway. You have totally lost control over yourself and are in no condition to play the game. Gaming women is done by calculated actions, which you can only perform when you have yourself and your emotions under control.

Furthermore, you should take a moment to think about your pride and dignity. It is a disgrace that you allowed this cvnt to get inside your head and mess with your mind like this. She has enslaved your mind, your mind is no longer your own, it is hers.
When you play a game of basketball and your opponent passes you, scores and says: "OWNED!", how do you respond? It affects your honor, your dignity...you feel offended, you feel like you've been made a fool of, you feel like your MANLIHOOD got compromised. So you do everything to safe it and restore it!

Where is that sense of pride now? How can you allow a woman to own your mind like this. She does not say it literally, but she might as well say "OWNED!" to you now, just like the guy at basketball does.

So have some fvcking self respect and show this wh0re that you don't need her. Show her that your honor and dignity are your own and that they will not be affected by some dumb wh0re like her. Better yet, don't show this to her, SHOW IT TO YOURSELF. Who gives a fvck about what she thinks of you if you don't respect YOURSELF?! Who gives a fvck about your relationship with her, if you don't nurture the relationship with YOURSELF?!

Return to yourself, forget about her. Focus on the world inside you, not the world around you. Once you have re-established inner balance, you can shift your attention back towards the outside world, this girl or some other girl.
 

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why in the world waste time with this chick????????????????????

dump her ass and move on...i would never waste any time with a chick like this...i really can't believe some of your guy's stories that you post on here...what a waste of time and effort...
 

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Gather yourself, man. Just take a moment and look at yourself, look at what this bytch is doing to you.

You're very frustrated. Like your title says, she is driving you INSANE!

In other words, you lost control. Your mind is no longer yours to control, no, she is controlling it!

Take a step back and gain back your control. That means saying to yourself "Fvck her, I don't need her!" Take your focus OFF her, forget about this cvnt. You get women when you stop caring about them, not when you chase after them.

If you keep chasing her at this point, you will not succeed anyway. You have totally lost control over yourself and are in no condition to play the game. Gaming women is done by calculated actions, which you can only perform when you have yourself and your emotions under control.

Furthermore, you should take a moment to think about your pride and dignity. It is a disgrace that you allowed this cvnt to get inside your head and mess with your mind like this. She has enslaved your mind, your mind is no longer your own, it is hers.
When you play a game of basketball and your opponent passes you, scores and says: "OWNED!", how do you respond? It affects your honor, your dignity...you feel offended, you feel like you've been made a fool of, you feel like your MANLIHOOD got compromised. So you do everything to safe it and restore it!

Where is that sense of pride now? How can you allow a woman to own your mind like this. She does not say it literally, but she might as well say "OWNED!" to you now, just like the guy at basketball does.

So have some fvcking self respect and show this wh0re that you don't need her. Show her that your honor and dignity are your own and that they will not be affected by some dumb wh0re like her. Better yet, don't show this to her, SHOW IT TO YOURSELF. Who gives a fvck about what she thinks of you if you don't respect YOURSELF?! Who gives a fvck about your relationship with her, if you don't nurture the relationship with YOURSELF?!

Return to yourself, forget about her. Focus on the world inside you, not the world around you. Once you have re-established inner balance, you can shift your attention back towards the outside world, this girl or some other girl.
It sounds worse than it actually is. Yes I am partially infatuated. And I am having power struggles. But I do not accept to call this as total loss of control. I still flirt and play 'games' on my side.

Still I can't find out if she's just wh0ring out for attention.

During our convo's she mentioned how she had a friend who was in love with her. But she didn't like him. Once he got a gf she got angry since he no longer gave her attention like before and that she felt bad.

I didn't really tell her anything except " If you are trying to find another guy like that, you're gonna get burned badly. "

She went defensive. And I went NC. 3 Days later she went ape**** with " there's somethign wrong, I know it, you are ignoring me and I don't know why, whatever it is I'm sorry since I care blah blah blah "


It just sucks to find someone with that great chemistry and beauty and then find they are rotting in a core.
 

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ScottMustaine said:
It sounds worse than it actually is. Yes I am partially infatuated. And I am having power struggles. But I do not accept to call this as total loss of control. I still flirt and play 'games' on my side.
Oh, so you're only "partially" infatuated? In that case, I'm sure you will play this girl like a true DJ, no worries...

Oh, you haven't lost "total" control? In that case, you will have no trouble handling this girl at all, I'm sure...

Oh, you "still flirt and play games" on your side? In that case, it will be easy to take a firm hold on the frame and succesfully game this girl, no doubt about it...


Still I can't find out if she's just wh0ring out for attention.
Yeah, it's sooooooooo important to find this out, isn't it? Coz then you might know if you have a chance at anything more with this girl. And that's actually the most important question in the universe, isn't it? :rolleyes:
I mean, let's just forget about the fact that she has you by the balls, let's just forget about the fact that you are way too emotionally invested in her, let's just forget about the fact that she is driving you INSANE. Coz if you could just determine with certainty that she wants anything more than attention wh0ring, than you'll somehow magically make all those aforementioned facts irrelevant, won't you?



Meh, you're a young fool. Crashing and burning is the only way you are gonna learn. Good luck with that.
 

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Yeah, it's sooooooooo important to find this out, isn't it? Coz then you might know if you have a chance at anything more with this girl. And that's actually the most important question in the universe, isn't it? :rolleyes:
I mean, let's just forget about the fact that she has you by the balls, let's just forget about the fact that you are way too emotionally invested in her, let's just forget about the fact that she is driving you INSANE. Coz if you could just determine with certainty that she wants anything more than attention wh0ring, than you'll somehow magically make all those aforementioned facts irrelevant, won't you?

Can u explain more on this please? surely if she wants more than attention whoring that will cahnge things ...?
 

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Waste of a time with this girl. She will put you through the ringer for a makeout session because that's what these types of girls do. In about a year or so she might let you see her snatch. Hope you're a patient guy that likes a lot of unnecessary büllṣhit.

When she says "we gotta do this" and "we gotta do that"...throw in "yeah, we gotta fück, too...that's another thing WE should do!"
 

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Spent a day with my best buddy outside. Had lots of fun. Had fun with some random girls, didn't like them enough to ask for number ( they were ugly) but still was fun and the mist is clearing up.

Going NC.

Thanks guys. Die Hard's comment made my laugh.

I don't know how to explain it. But when I lose control, I'm total diehard AFC. I haven't lost that control since I found out this site. I don't actually send her all those wooey texts etc.

Nor I show her much of emotions like I would before.

Yes, I'm invested emotionally, but I don't show it to be like I'm begging her.

At least that's how I see it.


Anyway, I'm out to search for other girls. Disabled Facebook so she wouldn't stalk me and other ****.


And yeah, I constantly edge myself to crash and burn so I could FINALLY stop beleiving in happy ending sh1t, and start gaming and being a player instead of searching for LTR.

I'm always near the breaking point, but I never break.
 

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lamobatsman said:
Can u explain more on this please? surely if she wants more than attention whoring that will cahnge things ...?
Even if this girl would want more than attention wh0ring, it proves a very difficult challenge to achieve such things with her.

She negates every attempt to create a sexual vibe and she does not partake in kino. Futhermore, she is giving mixed signals all the time and is screwing with Scott's mind by doing this. She gives him openings, where she shows him clear signs that she is attracted to him. Yet, when he tries to seize on those openings, she rejects him.

In other words, she is very hard to game. If he wants to be succesful in gaming her, he needs to have good game. The most important aspect in this regard, is the ability to remain level-headed and not get carried away by emotion. This girl is obviously operating at a high level of psychological game-playing and anyone who wants to game her needs to operate at a high level as well.

Scott is obviously not able to match her, she is totally screwing with his mind and toying with him like a cat does with a mouse. It's very clear that she got under his skin, she is invading his mind and is frustrating the living hell out of him to the point where he decided to disable all messaging systems to protect himself from her mind games.

Given this situation, his chances are hopeless. At the very least, he needs to retreat from the situation and regain control over his own mind and emotions, before he engages her again.



But to be honest, he should just retreat from the situation forever. This girl is poison, she's probably a BPD and will fvck with his mind no matter how many attempts he makes. Girls like these are a risk to your well-being and should be avoided.

But Scott doesn't want to give up and won't accept his loss, his stubborn pride won't allow him to. And that's exactly the type of guy that girls like these feed off. All the energy he invests into this mindgame with her, she will suck up and feed herself with. All the while, his energy reserves will just drain and drain and drain, until he is empty and near a nervous breakdown.

We must accept that in certain situations with women, "winning" is not possible and the best we can do is to retreat and "limit our losses", no matter how strong and capable we think we are. Once a girl gets a guy in the state of mind that Scott is currently in, the guy should be honest with himself and recognize the situation for what it is. Even the greatest DJ's on this board, with all their skills and experience, will disengage from pursuing a girl when they find themselves in the state of mind that Scott is currently in.
 

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Didn't see your latest post until I finished mine, Scott.

Good to hear that you are out to search for other girls. Don't give this one anymore of your time or attention, she is not worthy of it. Girls are meant to make you happy, not to drive you insane :)
 

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Die Hard said:
Didn't see your latest post until I finished mine, Scott.

Good to hear that you are out to search for other girls. Don't give this one anymore of your time or attention, she is not worthy of it. Girls are meant to make you happy, not to drive you insane :)
Woah, that was a long post. Gotta rep that one. Thanks a lot man.

I'm gonna re-read this sh1t everytime I get the urge.

My stupid pride still pushes me to 'conquer' her. Even though my logic tells me

" Well, she ain't that beautiful. Nor she got body. And there's bunch of girls who are philosophical and like to talk. "

But then I remember how she milked that her 'friend' guy of hers, since she wanted attention he gave her but she kept acting innocent. Then he found a gf and she went insane.


I'm really afraid of myself doing something stupid like engaging and going out with her. Yesterday I had a feeling like I'm going to spiritually die and change myself. Seems the calling is there.

Time to cut my hippie long hair ( it served me well, but shorter one will attract even more pvssy for sure) (she said she won't talk to me if I cut it, hah. ) and change my clothing etc.



But I have a question guys. She will for SURE initiate contact directly hitting me with " why don't you answer me, why are you ignoring me, you know I care for you i dont want to hurt you ' and all those sentences which will put her under my skin.


I need to know how to simply reject her politely with 'polite' answer so she can't moan but still kept at distance. "I'm busy" didn't really work last time...
 

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Die Hard said:
Even if this girl would want more than attention wh0ring, it proves a very difficult challenge to achieve such things with her.

She negates every attempt to create a sexual vibe and she does not partake in kino. Futhermore, she is giving mixed signals all the time and is screwing with Scott's mind by doing this. She gives him openings, where she shows him clear signs that she is attracted to him. Yet, when he tries to seize on those openings, she rejects him.

In other words, she is very hard to game. If he wants to be succesful in gaming her, he needs to have good game. The most important aspect in this regard, is the ability to remain level-headed and not get carried away by emotion. This girl is obviously operating at a high level of psychological game-playing and anyone who wants to game her needs to operate at a high level as well.

Scott is obviously not able to match her, she is totally screwing with his mind and toying with him like a cat does with a mouse. It's very clear that she got under his skin, she is invading his mind and is frustrating the living hell out of him to the point where he decided to disable all messaging systems to protect himself from her mind games.

Given this situation, his chances are hopeless. At the very least, he needs to retreat from the situation and regain control over his own mind and emotions, before he engages her again.



But to be honest, he should just retreat from the situation forever. This girl is poison, she's probably a BPD and will fvck with his mind no matter how many attempts he makes. Girls like these are a risk to your well-being and should be avoided.

But Scott doesn't want to give up and won't accept his loss, his stubborn pride won't allow him to. And that's exactly the type of guy that girls like these feed off. All the energy he invests into this mindgame with her, she will suck up and feed herself with. All the while, his energy reserves will just drain and drain and drain, until he is empty and near a nervous breakdown.

We must accept that in certain situations with women, "winning" is not possible and the best we can do is to retreat and "limit our losses", no matter how strong and capable we think we are. Once a girl gets a guy in the state of mind that Scott is currently in, the guy should be honest with himself and recognize the situation for what it is. Even the greatest DJ's on this board, with all their skills and experience, will disengage from pursuing a girl when they find themselves in the state of mind that Scott is currently in.

godd reply thanx. im learning. but how do u avoid getting in this mindset and also if you have feelings for a girl you get into this mindset right? cos i have done before. only when i dont have feelings for a girl i can avoid getting in this mindsight and play the game.

basically wat im trying to say is if u reli like her and have feelings for her then ur ****ed cos my mindset will be like this?? is this only natural wen u reli like someone?
 

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Yeah, it's natural.

The trick is to regulate the process of developing feelings for her. First you see the girl and think to yourself "Wow, she looks pretty!". Then when she smiles to you, you build up more attraction to her. Then when she talks to you in a positive way, smiles at you, laughs at your jokes, touches your arm when she talks to you etc. your attraction to her builds up and up. You go out on a date, you kiss her, she tells you she likes you etc. etc. it all builds up your attraction to her more and more. Then you fvck her, then this, then that, your attraction keeps building up, the fire within you keeps growing stronger.

And the stronger that fire grows, the harder it becomes to control it. Your desire for her spins out of control very quickly and before you know it, you're a fool in love, you have oneitis and have brought yourself in a very vulnerable position. Now, when the girl acts distant or acts negative in any other way, you feel sad or frustrated. Your emotions are now living their own life, you cannot control them anymore. Instead, they control you and they control your actions. Your mind tells you what's the right thing to do in different situations, but your actions are no longer controlled by your mind or what you think, no, they are now controlled by your emotions and what you feel. So you will act stupid and fvck everything up for yourself, because you allowed your emotions to spin out of control.

So again, you need to regulate that process of building up attraction and feelings for her, you need to slow that process down. It's all a matter of mastering your own emotions.

If you met a new girl and notice that your thoughs are going towards her all day long, even though you just had one date with her, then you know that things are already spinning out of control and you need to fight it. How? By actively pushing those thoughts of her out of your mind when they pop up!
Obviously, that's quite difficult :) It feels good when you're daydreaming about her, thinking back of last night, when she laid in your arms etc. Puts a smile on your face and makes you feel wonderful, right? :)

Yet, if you allow yourself to get carried away by these things and keep thinking of her all day long, you are allowing your feelings to spin out of control. And the more they spin out of control, the less able you are to control your actions. But gaming women is all about making calculated actions, and you won't be able to make the right actions anymore when your feelings spin out of control! So you have to make a conscious effort to control your thoughts and feelings, you have to force yourself to stop daydreaming about her etc.
That's why it is so important to master the principle of 'NO CONTACT'. Going 'no contact' usually happens after you broke up with a girl. She majorly disrespected you, she cheated on you or whatever, so you break up with her and know that you have to move on from her. But your keep longing back for her after the breakup, so you need to make that longing disappear. That's why you block her number, block her email, unfriend her on facebook etc. You have to get her out of your mind, just as if you are going through rehab with drugs. Your feelings keep longing for her, but you know that you have to move on from her, so you force your thoughts and feelings away from her.
That's what you do after you break up with a girl. But in a way, you have to do the exact same thing when you are GETTING TO KNOW a girl!! When you notice that your feelings are spinning out of control, you have to fight them, just as you fight them after a breakup. The difference is that you try to totally erase them after a breakup, but when you get to know a girl, you just try to SLOW THEM DOWN, not erase them. But it's the same principle, you must fight your own feelings and keep them under control.

For example, suppose you met a girl, went on a few dates and eventually fvcked her. At that point, your emotions for her might be quite strong already, you feel butterflies in your stomach etc. The girl keeps texting you the next day, she tells you how great you made her feel last night, how much she wants to be with you again and all kinds of other sweet things. It makes you feel so fvcking great, like you're on top of the world! SUCH BLISS!! (but....emotions are spinning out of control!)
So today is monday and the two of you already agreed to meet up again on Friday. You can't wait until the days pass and it will be Friday, so you can see her again! But then she texts you: "I want to see you so bad, I'm gonna cancel my yoga class tonight so we can meetup and don't have to wait until Friday. Do you think you can make it tonight?" You're filled with joy when you read her text, the thought of seeing her tonight instead of having to wait until Friday, makes you feel wonderful! You actually agreed to hang out with your pals tonight, but you'll gladly call that off and go to your sweet lover, right? So you text her "Are you kidding me, of course I'll be able to make it tonight! See you then, babe!" And another passionate night filled with joy ensues... Oh, how sweet life can be!!

Yeah...but if you know what's good for you, you just go through with hanging out with your pals that night and just wait until Friday. Why? First, because you make her wait and that way you keep her interest level high :cool: But more importantly, and in relation to the subject we are talking about, you will slow down your own feelings by doing this. You are keeping your own feelings in check, you are preventng your feelings from spinning out of control. Your desire tells you that you want to rush over to her place tonight, you long to see her so much. And you must keep that longing under control, you must slow it down or else it will spin out of control. So just like the guy who just broke up with his girlfriend and went no contact, you also have to go no contact. Not forever, like the guy who broke up with his gf, but just for the next few days until it's Friday, which is when you had initially agreed to meet up again.

It's these type of decisions that you have to train yourself in when you get to know a girl. Forcing yourself to stop daydreaming about her, forcing yourself not to take every opportunity to meet up with her etc. In all those situations, your desire tells you one thing, but you have to act against it. By doing those things, you slow don the process of developing feelings for her, and prevent your emotions to spin out of control. If you don't do this, you will lose control and find yourself in a weak and vulnerable position veeeery quickly. You'll start making foolish actions and fvck things up, then the girl will lose interest, she will grab the frame and make you her emotional slave, or she will cheat on you, or whatever! The situation will turn bad for you, one way or the other.

To make a long story short, you have to learn how to master your own desires, your thoughts and your emotions. You can do this by practising RESTRAINT. Restrain your feelings as they develop, prevent them from spinning out of control. Do not just give into your desires all the time without any restraint, keep them under control and regulate them!

Easier said than done, but practise makes perfect. Just stay conscious about these things while dealing with women. You'll probably fail at it 9 out of 10 times, but as you keep trying, you will get better at it. Eventually, you'll fail at it 8 out of 10 times, then 7 out of 10 times, and so on. And one day eventually, you'll be a fvcking lady killer who does not let his feelings spin out of control and games hot women by the dozen! Just be willing to put in the hard work and keep improving. You have to go through many fails in order to become a winner, you can't do everything right from the start. You'll have to deal with many women, make the same mistakes over and over, learn from them and improve.

I believe Scott is gonna pursue this girl after all. He's gonna crash and burn and he will feel sh!tty afterwards. But you know what? He will have learned a valuable lesson and improve from it! That's just the way it has to be. Each time you make a mistake with a woman, you will think twice about doing it with the next woman. Rinse and repeat, deal with lots of women and keep improving throughout all those affairs, then you'll become a DJ eventually.
 
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I believe Scott is gonna pursue this girl after all. He's gonna crash and burn and he will feel sh!tty afterwards. But you know what? He will have learned a valuable lesson and improve from it! That's just the way it has to be. Each time you make a mistake with a woman, you will think twice about doing it with the next woman. Rinse and repeat, deal with lots of women and keep improving throughout all those affairs, then you'll become a DJ eventually.

I actually am ignoring her. Even though my phone was about to blow up, I turned on the aeroplane mode. Will do the NC until I clean my emotions and desires, chill out with girls.

Atm. Nobody knows what the fvck is happening in my life. I just went GHOST on everyone. I'll change myself physically as I feel it's time to do some things.

Then I'll sh1t out that I lost my phone or something. And go on date, try to make out and make it open relationship.

If it fails => go back to plates and don't try to commit.

I realized I'll be lifelong bachelor.
 

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Die Hard said:
Yeah, it's natural.

The trick is to regulate the process of developing feelings for her. First you see the girl and think to yourself "Wow, she looks pretty!". Then when she smiles to you, you build up more attraction to her. Then when she talks to you in a positive way, smiles at you, laughs at your jokes, touches your arm when she talks to you etc. your attraction to her builds up and up. You go out on a date, you kiss her, she tells you she likes you etc. etc. it all builds up your attraction to her more and more. Then you fvck her, then this, then that, your attraction keeps building up, the fire within you keeps growing stronger.

And the stronger that fire grows, the harder it becomes to control it. Your desire for her spins out of control very quickly and before you know it, you're a fool in love, you have oneitis and have brought yourself in a very vulnerable position. Now, when the girl acts distant or acts negative in any other way, you feel sad or frustrated. Your emotions are now living their own life, you cannot control them anymore. Instead, they control you and they control your actions. Your mind tells you what's the right thing to do in different situations, but your actions are no longer controlled by your mind or what you think, no, they are now controlled by your emotions and what you feel. So you will act stupid and fvck everything up for yourself, because you allowed your emotions to spin out of control.

So again, you need to regulate that process of building up attraction and feelings for her, you need to slow that process down. It's all a matter of mastering your own emotions.

If you met a new girl and notice that your thoughs are going towards her all day long, even though you just had one date with her, then you know that things are already spinning out of control and you need to fight it. How? By actively pushing those thoughts of her out of your mind when they pop up!
Obviously, that's quite difficult :) It feels good when you're daydreaming about her, thinking back of last night, when she laid in your arms etc. Puts a smile on your face and makes you feel wonderful, right? :)

Yet, if you allow yourself to get carried away by these things and keep thinking of her all day long, you are allowing your feelings to spin out of control. And the more they spin out of control, the less able you are to control your actions. But gaming women is all about making calculated actions, and you won't be able to make the right actions anymore when your feelings spin out of control! So you have to make a conscious effort to control your thoughts and feelings, you have to force yourself to stop daydreaming about her etc.
That's why it is so important to master the principle of 'NO CONTACT'. Going 'no contact' usually happens after you broke up with a girl. She majorly disrespected you, she cheated on you or whatever, so you break up with her and know that you have to move on from her. But your keep longing back for her after the breakup, so you need to make that longing disappear. That's why you block her number, block her email, unfriend her on facebook etc. You have to get her out of your mind, just as if you are going through rehab with drugs. Your feelings keep longing for her, but you know that you have to move on from her, so you force your thoughts and feelings away from her.
That's what you do after you break up with a girl. But in a way, you have to do the exact same thing when you are GETTING TO KNOW a girl!! When you notice that your feelings are spinning out of control, you have to fight them, just as you fight them after a breakup. The difference is that you try to totally erase them after a breakup, but when you get to know a girl, you just try to SLOW THEM DOWN, not erase them. But it's the same principle, you must fight your own feelings and keep them under control.

For example, suppose you met a girl, went on a few dates and eventually fvcked her. At that point, your emotions for her might be quite strong already, you feel butterflies in your stomach etc. The girl keeps texting you the next day, she tells you how great you made her feel last night, how much she wants to be with you again and all kinds of other sweet things. It makes you feel so fvcking great, like you're on top of the world! SUCH BLISS!! (but....emotions are spinning out of control!)
So today is monday and the two of you already agreed to meet up again on Friday. You can't wait until the days pass and it will be Friday, so you can see her again! But then she texts you: "I want to see you so bad, I'm gonna cancel my yoga class tonight so we can meetup and don't have to wait until Friday. Do you think you can make it tonight?" You're filled with joy when you read her text, the thought of seeing her tonight instead of having to wait until Friday, makes you feel wonderful! You actually agreed to hang out with your pals tonight, but you'll gladly call that off and go to your sweet lover, right? So you text her "Are you kidding me, of course I'll be able to make it tonight! See you then, babe!" And another passionate night filled with joy ensues... Oh, how sweet life can be!!

Yeah...but if you know what's good for you, you just go through with hanging out with your pals that night and just wait until Friday. Why? First, because you make her wait and that way you keep her interest level high :cool: But more importantly, and in relation to the subject we are talking about, you will slow down your own feelings by doing this. You are keeping your own feelings in check, you are preventng your feelings from spinning out of control. Your desire tells you that you want to rush over to her place tonight, you long to see her so much. And you must keep that longing under control, you must slow it down or else it will spin out of control. So just like the guy who just broke up with his girlfriend and went no contact, you also have to go no contact. Not forever, like the guy who broke up with his gf, but just for the next few days until it's Friday, which is when you had initially agreed to meet up again.

It's these type of decisions that you have to train yourself in when you get to know a girl. Forcing yourself to stop daydreaming about her, forcing yourself not to take every opportunity to meet up with her etc. In all those situations, your desire tells you one thing, but you have to act against it. By doing those things, you slow don the process of developing feelings for her, and prevent your emotions to spin out of control. If you don't do this, you will lose control and find yourself in a weak and vulnerable position veeeery quickly. You'll start making foolish actions and fvck things up, then the girl will lose interest, she will grab the frame and make you her emotional slave, or she will cheat on you, or whatever! The situation will turn bad for you, one way or the other.

To make a long story short, you have to learn how to master your own desires, your thoughts and your emotions. You can do this by practising RESTRAINT. Restrain your feelings as they develop, prevent them from spinning out of control. Do not just give into your desires all the time without any restraint, keep them under control and regulate them!

Easier said than done, but practise makes perfect. Just stay conscious about these things while dealing with women. You'll probably fail at it 9 out of 10 times, but as you keep trying, you will get better at it. Eventually, you'll fail at it 8 out of 10 times, then 7 out of 10 times, and so on. And one day eventually, you'll be a fvcking lady killer who does not let his feelings spin out of control and games hot women by the dozen! Just be willing to put in the hard work and keep improving. You have to go through many fails in order to become a winner, you can't do everything right from the start. You'll have to deal with many women, make the same mistakes over and over, learn from them and improve.

I believe Scott is gonna pursue this girl after all. He's gonna crash and burn and he will feel sh!tty afterwards. But you know what? He will have learned a valuable lesson and improve from it! That's just the way it has to be. Each time you make a mistake with a woman, you will think twice about doing it with the next woman. Rinse and repeat, deal with lots of women and keep improving throughout all those affairs, then you'll become a DJ eventually.
thanx for taking time out to write this. really good stuff. Basically what you have written is exactly what i do and what i did actually recently. I could see myself going crazy and my mind was telling me to do one thing but my feelings got the better of me. and worse is i never had seen this girl yet. Im not very good at decision making or reading women unfortunately
 
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