She Told Me I Was Too Nice

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Ebonie is a hot lil something. She's 5'3", about 135 (about ten to twnety pound over.) She's medium complexed, VERY NICE RACK. Her came to her shoulders. Which was rare. How many black girls could say that they had naturally long her. She had brown eyes, and looked very cute with her glasses on. The only problem with Ebonie (physcially anyway,) was that she had a white girl ass.

Eb was was a very cool chick. Caring, affectionate, playful, (she used to like to fart on me) giving, and she made burritos that rvial Mexicans. When I started messing with Ebonie, I was in the infancy of changing my philosophy with women, I was starting to come out of my "weak-penis-AFC-Poindexter," way of thinking, but remants of the "old ways," still remained in my psyche.

I've mentioned in eariler posts that I met Ebonie, via my friend's girl. Eb and I began talking to each other over the phone. Nothing serious, just friendly, conversations that were sometimes laced with double entendres. "I've learned the hard way about long distance relationships and trying to hook up with chicks that you've never met over the phone."

Then in December of '98 I happened to be in California. When I got here I called up Eb, and told her I was here. To this day, it still puts a smile on my face when I think about how excited she was when I told her that I was in CA. We made arrangements to hook for New Year's. I would be traveling to Frenso from the S.F. Bay Area, about 200 miles away.

I was excited yet, skeptical. I've always had bad luck with women, so I didn't put it outside of the realm of possibility that she would have me come all the way down there just to stay me up. Then there was the possibility of of her not being the chick in the picture.

When Ebonie got to the train station to pick me up, I was more than satisified. When I saw her for the first time, I quoted to myself from the "Empire Strikes Back," "Impressive. Most impressive." My first words to Ebonie were, "Damn. You are cute."

New Year's '98 was to this day, the best one I ever had. It was just me and her, at her crib. We had some Domino's and some alcoholic cocotion she made with cider. After we've watched the ball drop on TV, I kissed her, and we retired for the evening.

When we were laying in bed, she would lay up under me. Me, ****ing around with her, I would move away, and she would get right back up under me. Finally she was like, "What. You don't want me to lay next to you?" I was like "Yeah. I was just ****ing with you."

When she was riding me, I was saying to myself. "This is cool. I've got this very cute girl riding me and nothing went wrong."

From then on for all intents and purposes, we were girlfriend and boyfriend. What got me with Ebonie was that 1) She spent money on me. 2) She showed me affection 3) She would get on the train for 4 hours and come visit me in the Bay. We would alternate trips. Even though I was in a long distance relationship, I was like "**** this has to be the real thing. She calls me, comes to visit me, and buys me ****." Plus she had bonded with my mom and my sister. Ebonie would always want to bring my sister with us, when we kicked it.

By me thinking that I was in a relationship, I did what I felt was my part. Namely give her attention and do things when she asked me to do them. One morning she asked me to make her some cereal. So I got up, and made her some cereal. Another time she asked me to go to the store for her. No problem, the store was only two blocks down the street. I'd even run her bath water for her. At the time she "claimed," that she didn't perform fellatio. OK, I can do without head. She also informed me that she didn't like doggystyle.

One day, she happened to answered the phone and it was my boy Dave. Dave asked Ebonie, how things were going between us. She reponsed with, "there cool, but, HE'S TOO NICE TO ME AND I CONTROL OUR RELATIONSHIP." I took the phone from her, finished talking Dave and asked her what that "I'm too nice you," **** was about. Ebonie told me that "I didn't have to do everything she told me, and to sometimes tell her no." She also said that I "was too nice." I was like what the **** do you mean I'm too nice. I told her that she've never asked me to do anything outside of the realm of reason and I didn't mind doing things for her. And not to take my kindness for weakness. I also told her that she's ever gave me a reason to be ****ed up towards her and if I was it would scare her. This day was the start of the end. One day, we're watching TV and I mumbled "I love you," under my breathe. She heard me and said, "Why did you say that?" It was all downhill from there.

Ebonie had came from a broken home that included a crackhead mother that was sometimes physically abusive towards her. When I was doing my evaluation of of went wrong with my dealings with females, I realized that Ebonie equated abuse with love. That for her to actually be treated like a human being by someone she loved was foriegn to her and when she actually received love and care, she rebelled against it. Towards the end of our relationship, Ebonie went to LA for spring break to visit some male friends. We all know what happened. Another ****ing nail in the coffin. In retro I should've demanded that we be together for her spring break.

In April I went back to NY, but I still called Ebonie as often as I could. I wanted her to come with me, but she declined. Finally one day, in June of '99. She told me that our relationship meant nothing to her and to stop calling her. At this point I had nothing but my pride left. Due to previous experiences for calling women after they've made it plain that they were no longer interested in me, I decided that when a woman tells me to leave her alone. I'd do just that leave her alone. There would be NO WAY I would "show out," in front of a ***** again. I realized that I would have to look at myself in the mirror and I wanted to know that when I looked at myself, that would be able to say to myself, that I conducted myself like a man. In addition, if I did show out in front a woman, my dad and friends would talk really bad about me. As much as it hurted, as much as I wanted to call I didn't. Just because I lost a chick, I wasn't about to lose my pride and self-respect.

Then one day, out of the day in August, Ebonie left some contact information for me via my mom. So we started to talk again. But I found out that she had a boyfriend. Again we all know what kind of guy she choose. The dude she ended up with would be three hours late picking her up from work, Dude also had a penchant for other chicks, breaking ****, and throwing Ebonie into walls. In her "infinite wisdom," Ebonie decided to get pregnant by this dude and marry him. They later divorced.

I have to admit I still have a soft spot for Ebonie. She's one of two chicks that I would go against my better judgement for. The other being Stephanie, (my freaky friend) I would love to take Ebonie to dinner and see how's been. My friend Bone, told me her seen her, and Ebonie looks like "her life has been hard," and her cousin Meika, told me that Ebonie chunked up.

A few years ago Bone was in Frenso, and he saw Ebonie. Ebonie, told Bone to tell me that she said hi. When Bone told me that. I sat back smiled and said, "She knows now."
 

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What the hell was the point of this post bro?

Not that it wasn't a ****ign cool story but I'm trying to figure out why.

But I can understand that man, she didn't ask you to do something ridiculous, but maybe if you look back you could've said no a few times.

at the same time though, if a girl says, "Hey could I get breakfast in bed" out of the blue one day, I'll probably say yes if I like her enough, because that's not that bad. If she said it every day, that's a different story.

I guess tha twas a good post, though i dunno why you waited years to post it lol.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Ebonie had came from a broken home that included a crackhead mother that was sometimes physically abusive towards her. When I was doing my evaluation of of went wrong with my dealings with females, I realized that Ebonie equated abuse with love. That for her to actually be treated like a human being by someone she loved was foriegn to her and when she actually received love and care, she rebelled against it. Towards the end of our relationship, Ebonie went to LA for spring break to visit some male friends. We all know what happened. Another ****ing nail in the coffin. In retro I should've demanded that we be together for her spring break.

The dude she ended up with would be three hours late picking her up from work, Dude also had a penchant for other chicks, breaking ****, and throwing Ebonie into walls. In her "infinite wisdom," Ebonie decided to get pregnant by this dude and marry him. They later divorced.
YOUCH! This is dating in America circa 2006 in a nutshell.

FIRST OFF - DON'T BLAME YOURSELF. It's taken me decades to realize this. That the problem really WASN'T ME, but these FVCKED UP DYSFUNCTIONAL, ABUSED, POST-FEMINIST AMERICAN DIVAS and their FVCKED UP CHILDHOODS!

Seriously, you're "too nice" cuz you poured her a f'n bowl of cereal after she asked nicely? No, you're just a NORMAL HUMAN BEING. She's the one who's just too fvcked up to realize that!

So, you have 3 choices here:
1) Play into her game by abusing her to show your "love."
2) Try to reprogram (fix) her.
3) Date someone functional instead.

Personally, I PREFER #3, but the problem is those girls are practically non-existent in modern American society today! Therefore, you end up playing a reluctant abusive therapist instead and making the best of what you can get. Which never works, because people must fix themselves. And you cannot have a functional relationship with a dysfunctional person!
 

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Your spelling got better towards the end.
 

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The Inexcusable And Brick Walls

My wing and I are on 47th between 7th and 8th Ave. It's a little early so we're looking for some spots to fall into. We pass the China Club and there's a four set outside of the club. Three chicks and a f*g. Then the unbelievable happens. This dark skinned, chesty something, with a "curly fry," weave says "hi," to me. Mind you after the Spanish mamis, darkskinned chesty chicks are my favorite. Not only did she say "hi," she was smiling. No need for openers, because she just opened me. So what does good ole Rex do:

A) Stop, engage, and number close.
B) Stop, engage, and bounce to another location.
C) Go into the China Club with her and her group. Isolate the target and f-close in some dark corner of the club.
D) Return her greeting and keep it moving.

If you guess "D," then your right and feel free to chastise me. I got to the corner of 47th and 8th and realized what the f*ck I had just done. I'm the first to complain about how hostile Black women are and here I am ignoring obvious IOI's. This is ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE!!!!! At times I'm in my own little world and I don't pay attention to the obvious. Would I had number closed? Maybe not, but when a chick, especially a Black HB8 speaks to you first and is smiling like the Kool-Aid Man, you've got to follow up just off of g.p.

My problem is the demonstrating value and opening sets. It's more with the demonstrating value. My problem with opening sets is that I'll revert back to AFC status and lose confidence. I'll be worried about her rejecting me. The only cure to this problem is to go in set and not worry about getting shot down. Like Mr. Fingers and Louis and Copeland said, "that's one less "no," I'll hear on my way to an eventual "yes." To solve this problem I'll just have to remember what Mystery said about your not trusting your feelings because they'll only f*ck you up at this stage.

This is my real sticking up. After I open the set. I hit a wall. I run out of sh*t to say. Actually I run out of pertinent sh*t to say. Now I can go on and on about politics, current events, pop culture, music, why that wack-a$$ "Soulja Boy," song is going to push rap back ten years, and b*tch about DC bringing back the Multiverse, but that sh*t isn't going to help me number close, let alone f-close. I'm good with the kino and the negs. I just need suggestions on demonstrating value and being the guy this chick was to suck and f*ck later that night or maybe at weeks end.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Can somebody please delete this. I didn't to post this.
 

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When you have a society where nice, decent behavior is punished and looked down upon as weak, its no surprise the entire social climate in America has gone to ****.
 

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So, you have 3 choices here:
1) Play into her game by abusing her to show your "love."
The problem is that this will not work either. Notice the guy she dated afterward was an @sshole to her, and they ended up divorced too.
The kind of women who is attracted to an abusive relationship in the first place is broken, and you can't fix her. She's just going to be a source of problems in any relationship. It wasn't going to work out no matter what the OP did, so in no way should he blame himself.
 
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