She leaps back into my life...but

[Paradox]

...she brings a female friend along.

Here's the story. This story begins in Jan 2003. I met this girl when her life was in turmoil. She was getting a divorce, fighting with her parents and she had just lost her job.

I took her out to a nice restaurant. She had a blast. She would not F*close because she said she was still married. 3 weeks later her cell phone is cut off (I kept getting a message that her number was temporarly disconected) and I loose contact with her. She knows where I work but makes no effort to call me. She/I was eventually NEXTED.

Fast forward 4 months later. It is may 19th. She calls. She claims that she had lost her cell phone. She said that she found her cell phone and she is calling because she had lost my number which was stored in her cell.

She mentioned that this was a holiday weekend and she wanted to go out with me. I said ok we'll go out on Sat. I scheduled her on Sat but my intention was to use her as a plan 'b' or plan 'c'.

She called me back this morning and said she would like to go to Las Vegas for the weekend. She said she would also like her girlfriend to come. I asked about the room situation and she first said that all 3 of us could be in the same room. Then she said if I want me and her could share a room.

So what do you guys think?

 

[oskiano]

Threesome!

 

[Paradox]

I thought about that

I immediately thought that but I talked to a friend of mine and he said this...

If the girl wanted to sleep with me then why invite her girlfriend? Why not just say let's go to Vegas? Why invite her female friend? He thinks the female friend is expected to act as a chaperone(sp). He thinks that if we are all in the same room then she may use the girlfriend as an excuse not to sleep with me.

On the other hand she did say that her and I could get a room together...so...this is one of my dilemas. I don't want to get stuck in a situation where I can't at least have a chance of sleeping with her.

What do you guys think? Should I go for 3 in a room or go for me and her in a seperate room?

 

[Slickster]

I think your buddies are right. She's using the friend as a chaparone. This doesn't have to be a bad thing though. Have you been to Vegas?

Once you get some booze into the three of you anything can happen. The 3 of you won't be attached at the hip. If her friend is cool and knows the two of you are into each other then she'll probably give you space. Maybe you will get into a threesome who knows.

I'd go and stay three to a room. Have a great time and see what happens.

If you try and get separate rooms then its you putting pressure on the situation. She may back off. Chances are she'll be worried about her friend all alone in her room and go stay with her anyway.

 

[Paradox]

Problem solved.

The good news is the first girl called and said that the second girl bowed out. Now I can concentrate on getting down to buisness with her. Hey, if it turns out she is Bi then they'll always be another weekend. Ha!

 

[TesuqueRed]

Do I correctly remember that this girl was posted about awhile ago??? If so, link the original threads, if you could...

It doesn't need stating that her "excuses" are completely bogus, no?

Which means she is using you. I would be surprised if you could f*close her. It sounds like she's a hard-core c0cktease in order to get meals, hotel rooms, vacations, etc. etc. etc. out of guys.

Blow her off.

Unless you're desperate.

Or you want to confirm.

Or you want practice.

Try not to spend too much, though.

 

[crowes22]

Paradox, don't finance this trip. I'm with Tesque on this.

Either: You fvck her before this trip takes place, OR, she pays her way, PERIOD. Or you tell her to piss off w/ the whole Vegas idea, for now.

That is too serious of a trip to finance for a flake you haven't banged yet. I don't know how how you have the $$ for the trip planned w/ her, but just in case, that is my opinion.

If she wants to fvck you, she should have no problem fvcking you before this damn vacation. This chick sounds like a sketch. Proceed with caution.

She's trying to run game here man, no pvssy=no attention, no money, no contact, and surely no mother fvcking trip to Vegas. Good luck.

Later--Crowes

 

[Paradox]

Originally posted by TesuqueRed
Do I correctly remember that this girl was posted about awhile ago??? If so, link the original threads, if you could...

Not the same girl! That girl was NEXED a long time ago. We are splitting going dutch on the trip.

I talked to her last night and she hinted that she wanted to play. Whee!!

 

[JustDoItAlways]

No contact for months then all of a sudden she wants you to take her and a friend on a trip to Vegas?

Sounds like you need to think with the other head on this one.

 

[Quick]

Re: Re: She leaps back into my life...but

Originally posted by JustDoItAlways
No contact for months then all of a sudden she wants you to take her and a friend on a trip to Vegas?

Sounds like you need to think with the other head on this one.

I didn't even notice that part of the story. Her cell phone story is an obvious lie. The truth is that she had other interests, and now that they're gone, she's now calling up her backup plan. It's cool for you, as long as you get what you want out of it. I take it that if you go to Vegas and don't get any sex, you'll be pretty pissed off. If it was me, I would have told her I couldn't get out of town for a few weeks, and scheduled something in town for this week. Then I would have made sure she was willing to bang me before I considered spending money to be with her.

And before you say you aren't spending money to spend time with her, answer these questions. Who suggested Vegas and has the most interest in going? Would you be going to Vegas if she wasn't coming? If you don't have sex with her, will you consider the trip to have been worthwhile? After her flakey behavior of not calling you for months, she needs to earn her way to a trip with you.

 

[thissiteissostupid]

I agree with the last poster. Your being wayyyyyyyyyyy too accomadating after she obviously dumped you for some other guy. Cell phone being lost? Please. Now she know she prolly wont have to give "it" up in Vegas since you jumped at the chance to go with her. Personally I would have gone out with her at least once before just so you can gauge her interest level AND also to play her up with some dj methods just so she knows that your not a total chump. Just way to quick at the opp. to go with her imo.

 

[tamales]

Hey stupid, so what? now you want to post on here

 

[Paradox]

Originally posted by JustDoItAlways


I didn't even notice that part of the story. Her cell phone story is an obvious lie. The truth is that she had other interests, and now that they're gone, she's now calling up her backup plan. It's cool for you, as long as you get what you want out of it. I take it that if you go to Vegas and don't get any sex, you'll be pretty pissed off. If it was me, I would have told her I couldn't get out of town for a few weeks, and scheduled something in town for this week. Then I would have made sure she was willing to bang me before I considered spending money to be with her.

The cell story is BS and I called her on that already (another DJ rule broken). I don't mind being the backup as long as I get what I want. 3 days/nights to work on her? I'm shooting for the f*close on the first night!!! I am playing the AFC on this one. I am the wolf (DJ) in sheep's (AFC's) clothing. The whole thing is her idea and I want her to carry out her plan. I want her to feel that she is in charge. Once I lay the pipe guess who will be in the drivers seat.

Most of this goes against the rules but so what? The DJ rules are guidelines. they are not set in stone. Why not play her game for now? Remember, I once dated 8 women at the same time. I know the game. All signals are pointing to a go on this girl.

As far as the money situation goes there is no need to worry. I've had LTR's with strippers (she is not a stripper) so I know how to handle myself in that dept. The money aspect will not be a problem.

 

[Quick]

Sounds like you know the situation and you're comfortable with it. I just hope you do get what you want from her. I agree that once you master and understand the guidelines, you should adapt your own rules. I'll be rooting for you.

 

[STR8UP]

Originally posted by Paradox
She calls. She claims that she had lost her cell phone. She said that she found her cell phone and she is calling because she had lost my number which was stored in her cell.

Yea, I got that excuse TWICE from the SAME girl, and it was RECENTLY. Shame on me. The first time was believable. She actually did call me back after a couple of days. I should have had my head examined for even listening to it the second time.

If she jerked you around like this once it's gonna happen again. Never had anything good come from a situation like this.

 

[violator]

Here is my take on the situation based on a very similar experience with a HB with lots of baggage:

You were her temporary rebound guy back in Jan 2003, but she never really let her ex go. She probably tried to patch things up with him which explains her 4 month absence. When things were officially over with him through divorce/seperation, she had you in mind which explains her sudden reappearance.

Of course the lost number excuse is BS, but I now notice that you are aware of this and don't mind being part of her game for the sake of getting a piece of ass.

I am not too clear, however, on whose paying for her part of the trip. If it's just some pyssy you are after, wouldn't be more economical for you to hire a call girl in Vegas? I don't know. But, it seems to me that you are going a little overboard in sacrficing your principles just to get some ass with this girl who obviously is playing you.

 

[Paradox]

Let's get the money thing clear. I pay my half. She pays her half. we are going Dutch.

You are right violator about 1 thing with the money (my half) that I am spending I could HIRE 4 call girls. Hiring call girls instead of getting your own is a topic that has been covered on this board and on the old board.

I am trying to break out of this slump that I am in.

Principals? Yes, I am looking for a LTR. Can I play my way out of this slump? This girl is a challange because she is playing a game. She likes the game. She makes her moves confidently. She is already aware of what I want. She plays so I play.

Has anyone here ever met a woman who did not play any games? I have. They are 1 in a thousand.

I am really giving up nothing. All is fair in love and war. Right? So what if I call her on her BS? So what if i give her another chance? So what if I go away with her? I am aware of her flaky behavior. By all rights I should have told her that I am busy this weekend.

I didn't have any plans for the weekend. She gave me something to do. After all isn't it all about the challenge sometimes. Many times I have had a woman in my sights and let her go. Alot of this for me now is just sport. I number close a literal 98% of the time.

 

[GirlCrazy]

I guess if you get laid out of the deal it's all good, but I still have a bad feeling about this whole situation.

 

[Survivor]

Ah, Now we get to the REAL problem..

From what I've read, this isn't about the girl at all. Its really about your supposed "slump".

When you stated, "I didn't have any plans for this weekend." thats all I had to hear. Am I getting warm on what the real issue is? You shouldnt be depending on someone else to fill out your weekend, my friend.

Paradox, you KNEW what she was up to when she asked you to tag along to Vegas. I know hindsight is 20/20 but still, you could've counter-offered with an alternative to Vegas, if only to test her interest in you. Did you think to do that? If so, why didn't you?

But anyway you've been here long enough to know what you're doing so I won't fuss. My only suggestion is to be completely honest with yourself. If can't imagine having fun in Vegas without having sex with this girl, then maybe you shouldn't go.

Personally, I can think of a few better ways to break a slump. But here's hoping you score, bruh....

 

[gr8one]

So COMPLICATED, yet so simple....

Find a WINGMAN....FAST!