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Can a guy be seen as somewhat attractive and lack this?

Is it something that if you dont have, makes you look plain and bland in the eyes of women, even if you are not ugly?

Is it natural or developed?
 

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It's developed. Comes from a decent social acumen. I.e understanding social dynamics, the opposite sex & body language.
 

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what if a guy doesnt have a social life (ie friends) or any chance to create rapport?
 
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create rapport at every moment
I am on a work trip in Holland and all the reception girls are putty
comes from talking about the weather, make a joke, be funny and provocative
went out for dinner.. "I will come back and flirt more later". I did and got only cute giggles and little tingle looks, ego me.

practice on cute girls you like will have no chance, cashiers are perfect practice because high chance you will never see them
outcome independence. You will find what works and what doesnt. I went walkin out last night, lots of girls out, I did not get one smile
which is very odd for me, discouraged? nope... oh well
 

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Can a guy be seen as somewhat attractive and lack this?

Is it something that if you dont have, makes you look plain and bland in the eyes of women, even if you are not ugly?

Is it natural or developed?
Yes. Like we've mentioned to you many times, you can look as attractive as you want but still be sexually unappealing. It's not enough to be physically attractive, actually that's not even the most important factor. What's more important is being psychologically attractive, basically to feel sexy. Which you seem to have a problem with, you objectively look good, but you don't feel like you're good looking.

This is developed. How you physically look is for the most part genetic, it's natural. How you feel, think and behave is nurture. Your experiences made you into the type of person you are. Meaning you can change it (without surgery).

So yeah, you can look like the sexiest man alive, but if you don't think, feel and act like one the women will see you as a fake.

You've been trying to change your looks, maybe hoping you'll also feel as good as you look. I think you should try working from the opposite angle now, learn to feel good about yourself first. When you do it can seem as if you look different when you view yourself in the mirror, even if you know nothing has physically changed.
 

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Yes, you can be attractive but lack sex appeal.

Sex appeal is basically sexual attractiveness. You have a banging body and women straight up just want to fvck you.

Attractive could be when she's just attracted to your money or the way you dress or talk or carry yourself or a host of other things.
 

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Yes, you can be attractive but lack sex appeal.

Sex appeal is basically sexual attractiveness. You have a banging body and women straight up just want to fvck you.

Attractive could be when she's just attracted to your money or the way you dress or talk or carry yourself or a host of other things.
Just like how she rolls up because your body is fantastic. She notices your massive insecurity, but doesn't mind because she want to be banged by that body. *sarcasm*

You're downplaying how much personality matters and saying a good look is key. That's just wrong. Women are emotional, looks isn't the biggest factor when arousing them. Why do you think we talk so much about game?
 

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Being attractive doesn't hurt. Being clean and well dressed helps as well, but if you have self-confidence and know you are a sexual being then you can be sexy. Clothes and looks are less important than confidence, valuing and liking yourself and being able to be sexual (without being a doucheebag creep).
 

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Just like how she rolls up because your body is fantastic. She notices your massive insecurity, but doesn't mind because she want to be banged by that body. *sarcasm*

You're downplaying how much personality matters and saying a good look is key. That's just wrong. Women are emotional, looks isn't the biggest factor when arousing them. Why do you think we talk so much about game?
I didn't say any of that. You're projecting. I didn't say looks is the biggest factor either. I basically said sex appeal is a more specific type of attractive.

While attractive is a general term that encompasses sex appeal.
 

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Having a body and knowing you can dance well, you will not have insecurity and you will appear sexy to onlookers.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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There is more to attracting women than just looks. Yes looks help a good deal, since they get your foot in the door so to speak. But if you don't have the inner confidence, charm, and charisma that you can only get by being happy with who you are and working towards your goals, then you become much less attractive in the eyes of women.

Yes, there are extremes. Some people who are unbelievably good looking can get away with lacking confidence and still doing well with women. And ugly guys who compensate by being total bad-asses or very rich can do well with women too.

Since looks can't be changed, instead you can work on so much to improve yourself to get more women. Your body/muscularity, confidence, fashion/clothes/ body-language/ posture/social skills, humour, hairstyle, financial status, and much more. Focus on what you can change.
 

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I didn't say any of that. You're projecting. I didn't say looks is the biggest factor either. I basically said sex appeal is a more specific type of attractive.

While attractive is a general term that encompasses sex appeal.
1. You did say "you have a banging body and women straight up just want to fvck you"
2. I'm not projecting, I'm trying to understand what you meant.
3. You didn't explicitly say looks was the biggest factor, but that was easily implied in point 1.
4. I wouldn't just separate sex appeal from so called other attractiveness factors. Many of those factors such as how you dress, talk or carry yourself contributes to sex appeal.

It seemed you thought looks was the defining factor. Like you can be attractive for things like how you dress, talk, move and having money, but if you don't look good you won't have sex appeal. I wanted to point out it's pretty common to look awesome, but still not have sex appeal because of those factors lacking. And that despite not looking good you can have sex appeal for having an awesome personality.
 

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1. You did say "you have a banging body and women straight up just want to fvck you"
2. I'm not projecting, I'm trying to understand what you meant.
3. You didn't explicitly say looks was the biggest factor, but that was easily implied in point 1.
4. I wouldn't just separate sex appeal from so called other attractiveness factors. Many of those factors such as how you dress, talk or carry yourself contributes to sex appeal.

It seemed you thought looks was the defining factor. Like you can be attractive for things like how you dress, talk, move and having money, but if you don't look good you won't have sex appeal. I wanted to point out it's pretty common to look awesome, but still not have sex appeal because of those factors lacking. And that despite not looking good you can have sex appeal for having an awesome personality.
Ah, I see what you're getting at now. When I said sex appeal equals a banging body. You believe I meant sex appeal was only about looks and you believe sex appeal and attractiveness are basically the same thing and can be used interchangeably.
 

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Ah, I see what you're getting at now. When I said sex appeal equals a banging body. You believe I meant sex appeal was only about looks and you believe sex appeal and attractiveness are basically the same thing and can be used interchangeably.
Part of it is sort of a confidence. Where you know you are attractive and so do they.
 

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Ah, I see what you're getting at now. When I said sex appeal equals a banging body. You believe I meant sex appeal was only about looks and you believe sex appeal and attractiveness are basically the same thing and can be used interchangeably.
Yes exactly. The way you wrote your first response wasn't really clear. Especially towards someone with excessive focus on looks. OP needs to get his attention away from his looks and focus more about what type of man he's gonna be, his personality. This forum (me included) has heavily emphasized he looks good enough, but his way of being is very unattractive. His attitude with the low self-esteem, the whining about how ugly he is and how nobody will fvck him.

He thinks he's unattractive and not sexually appealing because he looks ugly. Most of us has seen the pictures, the fact is his looks wouldn't be an issue. He may very well be physically attractive, but his dark and negative view affects how he talks, feels and acts which makes women avoid him.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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