Seriously... You WON'T belive this

[Lifeforce]

Fallen DJ, or just bad luck? Read this and give me feedback!

Now... listen to this... it is ****ing unbelivable.. I have done everything that can be done, I have leant everything that I possible can learn and applyied it in real life... but it just doesn't work... I am 19 and still a virgin... Look at this average day in a bar:

Came to the bar all juiced up... could feel masculinity drip from me like I was a greek god.... but the girls... they won't even give me a chance... I will walk up to them, using good body language when I do that. But they wont even hear a word of what I am going to say. All this evening I only got one who listened. Here's what I did (she was sitting with her best friend who talked to a guy while she was alone and left out of the convo):

Me: Hi, can I ask you a question?
Her: Ok...
Me: Have you ever... just met a guy and you felt.. instantanelously connected with him?
Her: Yea.. (plain look...)
Me: Well, as you.. THINK ABOUT THAT... *saying the rest with a smile and light tone* I would like to introduce myself... my name's ***
Her: Mine's *** (smiling)
Me: Well... *** (pause) do you belive in faith? *saying with humoru and smile*
Her: Yea... kind of... I am not really sure... yes, in some way I do... (still smiling and open body language)
Me: Then you wouldn't belive what happened the other day.. I was at this... future teller(?) and he said I would meet a girl with... *leaning to look at her shoes* black pumps and I would find her... very.. special.... so... I'm giving faith a chance here you know *smiling*
her: Lauging... and giving me lotsa eye contact saying something I don't remember...

I really felt that we had some kind of connection here so I launched into a game playing...

Me: Wow... NOW... since we are in this playful mood here... let's play a little game...
Her: Ok... what? (smiling)
Me: Ok... here's what we'll do... you know the game... (I don't know in english, that game with scissor, a papper bag and a rock)... lets see who wins... that person can ask.. any question and the other one must answer it... okey...
Her: Yes... lets do that *she really seemed to eat it up*

Now, a person she knew and hadn't met for a long time came and started to talk so he ****ed everything up. So I bailed... Do you see anything I can do better the next time?

The next one I tried to hit on was very mean... she just told me she doesn't talk to ugly guys... man, that stings.. I have heard a lot of negative stuff about my looks, that I am not good looking enough to dance with... heard... "damn, you're ugly", then there are those looks... , I tried to hit on one more but she plainly ignored me, wouldn't listen. So I walked home... almost 8 kilometers, crying my eyes out for my looks, wonder how god could be this cruel. And I do try to make myself look better, I have started to workout.. I have begun weightlifting, changed my diet, dyed my hair, battled my acne, changed my body language, changed my attityde, man changed EVERYTHING!... but I just doesn't get any response, I am skinny... and I can't do anything about it. And it really hurt when girls rack down on my looks.. man I do my best... And I'm kind of poor too, I doesn't have enough money to buy everything I need. And I do have the right attitude, I can feel that... Now I am willing to give up... I am so down man...

And my friends doesn't support me either, they have a good time joking about how bad I am at picking up girls. That make me upset, we have a guy with great looks, and he is a ****ing pvssy... He doesn't dare approach, so I introduce him and give him a clear way past the ***** shield so he just can listen and get them into bed. I disappear when he has half in because the girls ignore me anyway... they listen at MR goodlooking who is one of the worst AFCs in the world... man he gave roses to a girl he liked before they had even gone out one time. And all the guys think it's soo good... they say he has some points with her... bs... she has a boyfriend... It's so annoying that he can get them into bed when it is I... its ME who deserve to fvck them...

Now.... I am thinking about ways to get rid of my virginity... I am collecting money right now to find a prostitute to have sex with me... can you belive that... a DJ who can't get laid. And I am going to do some serious plastic surgery or something... I'm just so fvcking down right now... People talk about sex and I havn't even tried it... I feel more and more like a fvcking looser...

I can continue to write how ****ty everything's going, but you'll probably already have an idea how bad it is...

Man help me anyone... god damned it... help me! Give me some Idea... just some feedback... something that I may have some use of.... or just give me some encouragement...


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"Here you would most likely find a lot of very insightful quotes"

 

[BobbDobbs]

"she just told me she doesn't talk to ugly guys"

Man, that is cruel. But -- who'd want to associate with a low class person like that anyhow. You'd never say that to a fugly chick -- even if you thought it, right?

Hey, I know you feel the need to lose your virginity at 19, but in the not so distant past, it wasn't uncommon for people to retain their viriginity into their 20's and in some cases 30's. They all managed to survive. So don't think you are some sort of freak of nature. Note -- I'm not advocating virginity, just offering some realistic perspective.

If you're skinny, there may indeed be something you can do about it. Try this program. http://www.skinnyguy.net/index.html

As for acne, try to get your doc to give you accutane treatments. It's like a miracle cure for most people.

Oh, I think NLP is fun to play with, but I basically think it is lame.

By your feedback from the chicks, it's obvious that your game isn't what needs work. Yep, chicks like attractive guys. So to improve your results, that's going to have to be your main focus.

I'm not talking plastic surgery, but the acne and the bodybuilding are good places to start.

A prostitute is actually a good idea. Don't get ripped off though. Once you get the first time out of your system you won't seem so desperate.

 

[Lifeforce]

To vassego

I have read it, as I said, I am working out, I have changed my way of dressing like five times with five different styles, I have done my hair, cured my acne... etc... so stop giving me that!

I have read the bible, I have read fastseduction, SS, Robert greene... heck even D'enclos stuff! Also I have tried most of the stuff out, but whatever I do, it doesn't work.


L|feForc£
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"Here you would most likely find a lot of very insightful quotes"

 

[Golden Arms]

You are definitely NOT a loser. You are trying and you are improving yourself.

Don't get discouraged, for real

Why don't you post your pic so we can see what you're working with ?

 

[Lifeforce]

Bobbdobbs

thanks, for that site, that was EXACTLY the thing I was looking for...man I really, really appreciate it. Thanks for the other feedback also.

I do not use NLP so much, I have just discovered that that particukar approach does melt the ice shield. The problem is that I have not been able to test my game especially much... but now I am really VITALIZED! That site you game me was worth gold to me!

GigoloDJ

Hey, I cold approach alot, I have no fear at all... I can take the bashing most time... but hell... it's like normandy out there at the bars! On the streets or at other places there is much easier... At least I get a chance to talk... or a little at least...

Golden Arms

First... thanks... Just wanted to hear that...

I really don't have a picture to post... I don't use such stuff on the internet... but I am not THAT ugly... like three arms it's just that I am skinny... I had problems with acne... and I am white.. (taking care of those things right now)... maybe I can get my looks up so I at least look average... that would be a DREAM...

 

[learningtopimp]

Dude I feel you ....but you have to look at it as HER LOSS and YOUR GAIN in this situation. Why? Because you did not get stuck with a low class, stuck up piece of crap. And she didn't get to meet a cool guy. As for the looks situation, there is some good advice on these boards and roll with it. I don't know what you look like but I can bet with working out, changing your hair style and putting on some new clothes you could improve. And most of all, keep working on your game because that is what will get u far in the long run. I hope that helps.

 

[learningtopimp]

And consider the makeover advice...you'd be surprised what a couple skilled guys, probably gay but who cares, can do for you in that deparment. And visit www.skinnyguy.net or Diesel's bulking up guide, or get a reputed trainer to help u get some muscle,

 

[Julian]

Dude dont use some wack cheesed out game like asking questions that are akin to "Do you believe in love at first sight?" Thats what it sounded like your first approach was and its lame.

 

[Lifeforce]

Yeah, that skinnyguy.net was really great, I'll start with that on monday.

Money is the problem on the other stuff, I can't afford all too much... maube time to rob a bank

Hey, I'm not cool, not yet at least... right now I'm a ****ing AFC and I havn't got all stuff down on the plate yet.

thx for the help

And to you julian... it's very easy to complain about what's being done wrong, harder to tell what to do. I do this approach because I got it from RJ and when I get a chance tlking it's really an icebreaker. I notice that the stuff I say doesn't matter, heck I have gotten numbers using the worst **** you can come up with... but then I doesn't call, I sabotage for myself, but I'm taking care of that, it's because I have a belief, "If i don't have any muscle then people wont want me" and that must be destroyed.

thanks for caring guys, you all really got me out of this slump...

 

[DEKKA]

if you think you've tryed everything remember one thing. you haven't.

 

[Blaster]

So the prettyboy AFC's get the women, and the not-so-good-looking super-confident, Funny, master DJ's are stuck with nothing..

Life's a b1tch ain't it?

 

[Derek Flint]

"she just told me she doesn't talk to ugly guys"

Respond with: "Well, you can always lower your standards like I just did"

 

[Evil-Rom]

"Holy sh*t, I almost had a seizure when I saw this one. Three words: too many colors." - Maddox.

I'm just kidding, but that's what I thought of straight away when I saw your post.

 

[Pecker]

Look, I gotta tell you something. I went to a pretty hippy trendy club a month and a half ago, and the girls were HOT AS HECK but cold as ice to me. I tried to dance with several...and i'm a GOOD DANCER... and they gave me this "What the hell are YOU doing trying to address ME" look.

And I would not say that looks are an area of concern for me. I'm no prettyboy but if there's anything that could keep me from getting laid, it's not in my face or body but in my head.

Lots of really hot girls go to clubs together to reject guys! Yes, they think it's fun. Because "they've got all their sisters with them" and all that nonsense. In such girls-night-out situations it is deemed SHAMEFUL to do anything but scorn a guy that tries to hit on them.

If they're gonna give anyone their number it's gonna be some rich yuppie hollywood type. Someone for whom their girlfriends could say "Who could blame her?"

I would work on your real-life game. Engage everyone you come into contact with. The fifty five year old checkout guy. Ask him how his day was, say somethin like "crazy wind today huh?" or whatever...The girl next to you at the ice cream section...ask her how that flavor is! And then go off about how great this OTHER flavor is....

I once started a conversation using the opening line "I live on this stuff, i swear" while i was pouring Tapatio on my eggs at the cafeteria. I could tell she was looking at what I was doing as though it were the weirdest thing, and I exploited that opportunity. There are such opportunities EVERYWHERE.

I'm going on too long here. All I'm saying is real life is different. Girls give you more of a chance. I know you're pissed, and all you want is a chance, and not to be shut off like you're something lower than human. I thnk we've all been there. Just learn to engange people in everyday life, and not to be shy. Then you won't need club tactics or openers.

 

[JoE BoXeR]

WWPD? - (what would Pook do?)



ahhhhhhh yes.....



- read -



^^^ The girls could probably smell it on you from a mile away.

 

[Lifeforce]

Yes... that really was a drag yesterday... but todays alot better... can start working on the stuff I got feedback on from last night... like never return to that place again! Not yet anyway...

Derek... wow.. that's a good one... I was a little stumped when I heard it though... like wtf is she saying?!! couldn't believe it... the worst thing I had heard in my life I think..

Pecker... Normal conversation is alot easier... talking to people in my vicinity that is... So maybe it just is the bar where people are at me... for the reason you stated

Hell I even do the stuff that you told me about, too... if I were to do the exact same thing that you did with the eggs... then my friends would just say that I just made a fool out of myself... they are always at me... always... never any support, always downgrading the stuff I do... I have realized after tonight that I really have to get rid of those people and met new friends...

Evil-Rom... Man people are down at my post for how it look too... didn't your mother teach you that true beauty comes from the inside


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"Here you would most likely find a lot of very insightful quotes"

 

[Wysiwyg]

Lifeforce, i think you acted bad. In other words, you read the Bible, but didn't assimilate it very well. Why?

First, the dialogue. It was a variation of "do you believe in love at first sight?" Bad move! You showed too much interest in your first contact. Start a conversation making an statement about the place or something that caugh your attention on her. But DON'T FLATTER HER! Be ****y (not too much, please) and funny. Bang! She's yours!

Second, your confidence is weak. I can tell that because you got destroyed when the girl said "i don't talk to ugly guys". My answer would be "Really? Well, you're lucky, i can keep them away from you. What's your name?".

You need to really know yourself better, and overcome your fears. It's hard, but it can be done.

Cheers,
Wys

 

[Pecker]

It's kind of wrong to label something as AFC. That's not a constructive criticism. Neither is "Don Juan" a verb. There is no such thing as "DJing"...what the heck is that. Be more specific guys.

Lifeforce, you need some new friends. They are incredibly insecure. At one point in time you were insecure and didn't care to work on it, so you hung with other insecure people. Now you're trying to do better, and they are jealous.

 

[Wysiwyg]

You're right, i edited my post a bit. And right again when talking about new friends. Six years ago I had a so-called friend that could only feel good when he saw me down. In matter of fact, he made me fell bad and insecure most of the time, but i didn't realized that.

When i finally got it, I got rid of this bastard, and feel much more better everyday, since then. It's amazing how other people can try to destroy you.

 

[DJZ]

Lots of really hot girls go to clubs together to reject guys! Yes, they think it's fun. Because "they've got all their sisters with them" and all that nonsense. In such girls-night-out situations it is deemed SHAMEFUL to do anything but scorn a guy that tries to hit on them.

I'm going on too long here. All I'm saying is real life is different. Girls give you more of a chance.

These 2 comments are so true! Whenever me and my bros go out to the clubs, the women can be brutal. One time my buddy was talking to 2 girls and I walked up and attempted to jump in the convo but one of the girls gave me a dirty look and told me to "move along." I simply replied with "don't flatter yourself, I wasn't trying to get your number." Probably not the best comeback, but I was a little buzzed and it was all I could think of off the top of my head.


***the following is not recommended if you are trying to get laid, but it is fun and might help build up immunity to rejections or help you achieve an I don't give a f**k attitude***

One thing that's funny is when you reverse roles and act like an a** to the girls. They get a taste of their own medecine and they hate it! We do the 2 minute drill. What is the 2 minute drill you might ask? Basically your buddies pick out a girl and you have to go talk to her for 2 minutes. You have to keep the convo going, or keep talking to her no matter what she does. After 2 minutes is up, your buddies yell "TIME!" and you walk off. The funny part is that if you are good at making convo, the girl will still be talking to you, and you just walk off. My buddy was talking to one chick last night and when we yelled time she was in the middle of a sentence and he just walked off...it was hilarious. She looked pretty pissed after that.

Then another HB8 was talking to me and she touched my chest and I looked down at my chest, then at her and said "did I say you could touch me?" Ohhhhhh she didn't like that, after that she turned around and would not look at me anymore.

A bunch of other times we would be chatting it up with some hotties and I'd say...hey, let me give you my number...they would get out their phone and get ready to punch it in, and I'd say "867-5309". Some would laugh, others would look a little pissed.

Either way, I had a great time...

I'm not saying that what we do sometimes is classy or even a good idea...but I have fun when we do it, and since I know the chances of meeting a worthwhile girl at a club are slim to none, I don't think we've really lost out on much by acting this way. Of course...it would suck if you saw these women out in a normal setting and they remembered you!