seduing a shy HB10 and LSE after a missed approach !

[TheMale]

Mission impossible ? your mission if you accept that: find a solution to this pradoxal headach:

here a resume in 2 parts (2 different days). looks like a rejection but let me with some questions in mind

part 1: friday night:

fast brunch this night on work. lot of people et a HB10 (i think she was one of the 3 most beautiful chicks i saw this 10 last years) that i saw 2/3 times in work but nothing serious and without a great exchange just some formality (we are not in the same sector)
so that night was the occasion and no way i would let this occasion to approach her pass

start with some fluff, hard for me to orient this on the topics i want.
i'm avoiding all work conversation but after all she don't open up
she return my question without really answer it (i think more to be polite and less IOI)

trying to have a good BL and a calm voice but inside i can garantee you its like back in the day when i was young trying to seduce a chick for the first time with andrenaline. in fact i feel that i cant make any connection excepted polite rapport of to collegues.

whe n she askes me how i got this place i decided to play it ****y and not wasting anymore time:
me:'you know HB10(her name ...) i dont know if i should tell you that ... do you know how to keep a secret ?
she:yes sure ....
me:in fact i was hired for a secret spying mission on you, since i need to make a report and i need a little bit more info of you, lets make a interview arround a cofee soon ...'
she: will see ... (but more 'will see' that saying no, at least i see it that way and i dont think im wrong)

end of the conversation she going to see other collegue ! in your ass TheMale ...

don't worry that night i called a **** Friend (HB7) but at least im not going to sleep alone

Part 2: tuesday

i'm a little surprise !
yesterday i saw her on work ... throwing a : 'hey "her name"! how you doing ?' (just to be polite) and she answer : 'yeah yeah ...' with a little voice and she didn't retain my EC

well ... when i talk to other collegues i discovered sshe is really shy ! and i'm pretty sure she is an LSE! a peak ....

and now i can see why my approach was a bit hard (a lot of people , and from the same work) the discution was hard to developpe to where i wanted to .... now i understand that without the fact she was an HB10 and its a bit exciting ... but i had also the challenge to make an introvert open up ... if i knew that i would establish 10X more comfort before trying to date close her ... and avoid to neg her (soft neg but yet ... )

if someone have an idea how to do a new approach with this shy HB10 and maybe LSE that already rejected me on my first move, im taking it !
i dont see her often at work i just see her from time to time in random situation in the hallway but rarely alone ...

so my challenge is to seduce her knowing she's shy (this type of chick you need to digg to have a phrase compose by 6 words ....) maybe LSE
and all that in work that i saw her randomely and not often .. i confess i wanna next her more and more but she's hot and i'm perseverant

 

[PapiChulo]

HB10 and shy? Something doesnt add up.

 

[TheMale]

yeah i know .... kindda weird but that's what everyone told me (and that's people who knows her)

and maybe the only explication for her being like that with me (as i explained in my first message)

dont forget that too :

yesterday i saw her on work ... throwing a : 'hey "her name"! how you doing ?' (just to be polite) and she answer : 'yeah yeah ...' with a little voice and she didn't retain my EC

 

[ArcBound]

HB10 and shy? Something doesnt add up.

Exactly.

She's not shy, she's not an introvert, she's not into you.

She didn't accept your date, and she went to see another work colleague instead of you. You're pretty much a low priority on her list.

FFS she won't even answer your "hi how are you" with a straight answer. Lol.

Lastly never ask her friends what they will think of her. The fact that you're asking all of these people about her usually gets back to a woman.

Sometimes girls are shy but from everything you are describing it seems you are mistaking the fact that she's not into you, with shyness.

The only thing that may work is to do something that will drastically raise your value in her eyes. Maybe let her see you with your plates and fvck friends. That might intrigue her a bit, but TBH it looks bad.

 

[TheMale]

im not sayng shes not inot me ... sure it can be an option too ... but being shy like a 14 years old ....

but it my opinion from what i saw
when you ask someone that not into you 'how are you ?' she usually answer with over confidence but not warmly like 'cool' or she will ignore you
but not the way she'll look at her feet and answer with a little voice ... that's what she did

plus she had an attitude intovert (i'm learning BL and emotionnal state and she fit all the criteria) she doesnt talk too much
in the brunch i just looked at her for a moment and she was almost the same with her other collegue ... excepted she knows them and they had some common subject but pretty much the same as with me

i didnt ask my friend why she rejected me
we spoke about the brunch and we got to the fact i was talking to her then he told me: 'you know she's adorable but realy shy ... last time she came to see me she wait in the hallway cause she didnt want to boder by enter in my office'

it looks paradoxal but it's life .... sometimes people are a piece of **** thinking they are god
and sometimes people have all the good things for themselves but are not good in their skin

i also heard that his boyfriend left her 6 month ago (she's boring or he's gay) and i think it's influencing her LSF
i dont know how much time they were together but 6 month in a life of a HB10 the occasion are not missing to spining plate ! so she dont want to or she have someone(she didnt came with him to the brunch even if all the spouse was invited) or she's just lesbian

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Attraction was never established, barely any rapport other than a few questions you asked her and then you went in for the kill. Any surprise why she wasn't thrilled to commit to coffee?

If she is that shy, you need to work on her more, get her to start opening up a bit. Might take a few weeks or it just might not happen for whatever reason. Once THAT happens, then ask her out again.




PIMP

 

[TheMale]

yeah i went for the kill because i had nothing to loose
after some minutes of conversation where she was only returning my questions etc ... i said to myself i't can't be bader than now so why not ...

so pimp what can you tell me about make her open up ?
i thought maybe talk about work or something like that but i dont like it
i don't know how to approach her once again and retain her attention and work on her to open up
i'm still digging in my head but i don't find any solution
that's why i asked your help
cause you can always see more clearly with an external opinion

so what do i gotta do ? knowing i rarely see her
how can i go for a new approach ?
what approach sould i try this time ?

 

[TheMale]

anyone ?!!

 

[Pimp-sicle]

yeah i went for the kill because i had nothing to loose
after some minutes of conversation where she was only returning my questions etc ... i said to myself i't can't be bader than now so why not ...

so pimp what can you tell me about make her open up ?
i thought maybe talk about work or something like that but i dont like it
i don't know how to approach her once again and retain her attention and work on her to open up
i'm still digging in my head but i don't find any solution
that's why i asked your help
cause you can always see more clearly with an external opinion

so what do i gotta do ? knowing i rarely see her
how can i go for a new approach ?
what approach sould i try this time ?

First you have to have a clear understanding of just exactly how attraction works. There must be some form of attraction established FIRST, before you start building rapport with the girl. If she isn't attracted to you, then finding all the commonalities in the world won't matter one bit. Attraction is created in many different ways; could be purely physical, could be based on a few wise crack jokes and some teasing, could be your body language, tone of voice etc.

Start focusing on that in all your approaches before you go into the rapport building talk. Let me ask you this... you say she is a 10 right? Shy or not, she knows she's attractive. Do you think your the first guy to walk up to her and talk to her about work? Probably not. That's why I said in my post that you did absolutely nothing to attract her before you went in for the kill. Would a group of lionesses just blindly run after some gazelle if they wanted dinner and expect to be successful? Or would they set up a plan and have one chase the gazelle and lead them right to the other waiting lionesses? Which way do you think would be more successful?

Have more fun, your approach seemed filled with boring talk about work; tease her a bit, figure out where her boundaries are.... maybe you'll be surprised to learn she isn't that shy after all.

Once you have some attraction established, and you find common ground THEN you can go in for the close and she will likely be excited to give you her number or go out with you etc.

You can't go from A-Z and expect good results; that's the shotgun approach and only works once in a while. But those are the guys who have no idea how they did it and when they talk about it will say stupid shiat like "I got lucky!" LOL





PIMP

 

[TheMale]

lol
thank you for you answer
let me tell you something
i was a PUA for almost 2 years (just a reminder cause i already wrote that)
last march i think after reading the book of pook i decided to become a natural without all that creazy stuff (dont wanna go into detail just a quick history)
so attraction i really know what is about
i know how to creat attraction and how to creat conection
building talk, lead the conversation to where i want to etc.

i started conversation with her i DIDN'T talked about work with her (i said maybe next time i should start from there : 'did you saw the ugly tie the boss wearing, or this sluty new assistant)
but it was hard for me to lead the conversation where i wanted to
because she didnt cooperate ... because she was shy
so i went in for the kill cause i had nothing to loose (i plan also to leave her after getting her number)

so my questions is: how do i fix that how can i reapproahce her without being heavy ? (sound like OI but not it's just the challenge that makes me wanna succeed)
and for you what is attraction (i wanna have some extern point of view of sosuave member and maybe i'll be more successful) ????

oh almost forgot
today she came to say hey ... (didnt see her before) yes i work sometimes ;p

maybe ill put her on stand by but i really wanna know your opinion it can always help in case of i wanna seduce her or if its happening with someone else