Secrets, lies, games and drama

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How much do girls lie?

Have you guys ever discovered something about a girl later on the relationship that changed everything? If you guys read my other thread you know my girl loves playing mind games and gets pretty controlling/attached sometimes. After freezing her for a day for bad behavior she ended up calling me over 30 times within a 12 hour period, text me 3 times, reactivated her old FB account to try to talk to me and kept signing on and off to check on me every 15 minutes for 5 hours the next day. I end up seeing her the 2nd night to tell her my terms if she wants to stay with me, no disrespect and such. What absolutely blew my mind was what I found out about her later on.

So I had to talk to her mom later on because I pissed her off by sleeping over at their house too much and their family found that out. The girl is only 18 and they think I'm turning her into a bad girl because we always go out and come back early in the morning. During the convo, I found out that she isn't in the high school she told me about, she doesn't even go to school anymore and has dropped out of school completely. She had to transfer to a different high school because of partying too much and drama at her old school in 2007, and last year she completely dropped out of high school and went for a JED, a degree that you can easily get to replace your high school degree. Ever since then, she's been taking this online class to prep her for college at home. I met her last year september and she dropped out in october. Every conversation we had in the last 7 months about her school, what she does during the day when she's at school, her friends, etc has been a lie. She lied that she got accepted to her dream college, she lied about study groups with her classmates, she lied about taking her finals when she doesn't have any, she lied about taking the days off of her school so we could go on a cruise. What scares me the MOST is how easily these lies rolled off her tongue, and how fast she can come up with a lie like that.

Every weekday she practically sits around home and goes to this online course that preps her for college, or 1-2 days of the week she goes to the local community college to do the same thing she can do at home. She has so much free time that she's either thinking about me and making up lies and games the entire time, or talking to other guys on the phone and playing them just me. Of course she says that she's not seeing or talking to other guys at the same time. She admitted that she play games to make me believe that she has other guys and that she actually have friends and classmates to hang out with in her spare time, when in reality she stopped talking to all her past classmates and friends because she was ashamed of herself and didn't want them to know about her situation.

Her family knows that she dropped out of high school and have been very protective of her. They want her to stay in Miami for college so that they can watch her and prevent the same thing from happening again. Since I'm taking her with me to Jersey, they think I am taking away her only hope of staying on life's track by going to college here, and they have been trying to convince her everyday to stay and hating me for that. She must have been thinking that I am her knight in shining armor that can save her from her past, take her to a new world where everything is happy, and live happily ever after.

What really upsets me is that I was the one being fooled this entire time and even though knowing in my gut something was wrong I didn't act on it. From what I've seen, she's very good at making people liking her and forgiving her, and with this skill she can manipulate anyone she wishes. There must be tons of secrets she still hides from me and I'm not sure if I can ever find them all. It seems that everytime I'm not satisfied with the truthfulness of her answer, she tells me something different. I am utterly amazed how this 18 year old girl can have so much game, is so good at lying, and can keep one secret and lie around it for so long. She's the player that I wish to become, it seems that I'm learning new tactics almost every day.

I told her to rethink about her decision to come with me and that she must not live with me anymore if she decides to come, and that I am in no way responsible for whatever happens to her afterwards. I also explained to her that if we decide to stay together, that I would not be in an exclusive relationship with her anymore and I would start dating other girls and she cannot complain at all about it. Right now, I pretty much have total control where this relationship is going, and can get her to do anything I want without her complaining, but even with this, she can lie to me about anything in the future just as easily as she did to me before. What do you guys think I should do in this situation?
 
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well am speechless.. i havent a clue where to start, its quite interesting this story.. how old are you? and why are you taking her to Jersey? are you guys getting married or something?
 

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ya i read those posts... and from the sound of it she is pretty fvcking crazy. u should consider next b/c i wouldn't date someone that cause me too much shi*t and worries
 

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I know, this story can be made into a movie or something. She's one of those girls that can drive you crazy, but at the same time you want more because she makes you love her so much. It's like a blackhole, once you go in it's damn hard to get out. I see my old self in her, and I want to save her, but I know I can't now. We were going to Jersey for my school, and she was supposed to start college there with me, in fact she just took her college entrance exam today when I was talking to her mom, trying to reassure her that her daughter is going to stay in Miami and not come with me anymore. There's nothing more I want right now than to stay with her, bring her to Jersey with me, and live a happy couple's life, but I know sooner or later she will be too much trouble for me to handle. I'm debating whether to see her anymore before I leave, making it the last 2 weeks we spend with each other, or not see her at all and let everything cool down and gather my mind and energy back and just silently leave.
 

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DTB, she is screwing up your head. You WANT to become as good a liar as she is?WTF? No honor as a man in being able to lie like a woman. I'm thinking she is a possible cluster B. Read the old threads on it-if the shoe fits.....
 
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