Salsa, Bachata, social dancing, is it worth it, for picking up women?

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If the poor bastard has to write that much about it, and over analyze it to death, he's better off not doing it. Any activity where you may meet women should be done for its own reward, and women are a nice co-product.
 

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Bachata, yes.

I learned years ago, and it's become a fun hobby of mine.
 

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I didn't have good experiences with salsa classes. Some of the blame for that falls on me. I did make some efforts there.

I think with salsa, the idea would be to use the classes to eventually go out to salsa clubs and do pickup. To really get good at salsa via classes to have an advantage in the clubs, you're looking at 1-2 years of lessons.

The pandemic has also affected this greatly.

If you're doing salsa classes solely to find dates within the classes, you're likely to be disappointed. If you have the patience to see it through long term and eventually show off your skills at salsa venues, then you might make something of it. Given the uncertain nature of night game due to the pandemic, it's likely not worth starting right now.
 

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It's WAYY worth it. It puts you into a social circle and the people are there to have fun. Don't go into it to pick up women, but you will meet open and fun people. And from there some of those situations will develop further. Consider it an additional social avenue, where people in that group will be open minded and FUN.

Any attractive man will get some lays out of there, but that should not be your primary reason.
 

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I did ballroom for about 5 years, but did not find it helpful in the women department.

There was surprisingly very little time to talk to the women. They would show up a couple minutes before class starts and leave immediately after. During class, obviously you have to be quiet out of respect for the teacher. And during a dance social, if you start having a long conversation with someone, you get that stink eye from the teacher because you are tying up a potential dance partner for someone.

Your best opportunity to talk is WHILE you are social dancing. But multi-tasking like that isn’t necessarily easy until you get to say an intermediate level.

I have no experience with Latin dances, so I have no opinion on those.
 

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If the poor bastard has to write that much about it, and over analyze it to death, he's better off not doing it. Any activity where you may meet women should be done for its own reward, and women are a nice co-product.
Reading through that subreddit I'm pretty most of these guys are on the spectrum. The whole place is full of super long posts.

The only thing worse is the "advice" given in the comments. Talk abortion the blind leading the blind
 

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I did ballroom for about 5 years, but did not find it helpful in the women department.

There was surprisingly very little time to talk to the women. They would show up a couple minutes before class starts and leave immediately after. During class, obviously you have to be quiet out of respect for the teacher. And during a dance social, if you start having a long conversation with someone, you get that stink eye from the teacher because you are tying up a potential dance partner for someone.

Your best opportunity to talk is WHILE you are social dancing. But multi-tasking like that isn’t necessarily easy until you get to say an intermediate level.

I have no experience with Latin dances, so I have no opinion on those.
In the Latin dances some of the ladies will prefer to dance with you, especially if you can dance, and or extremely fit. So all alone without even having sex - you get strongly chosen. That validation really adds to your self esteem. I was coming out of those groups with my confidence maxxed out, feeling real good in my skin. It's alot of fun. It's fun and keeps you fit.

If your completely new, give yourself 6 months or so to get decent enough - just like getting into any martial art. 6 months is better than someone without and several years is a huge advantage.

The energy in there will be addictive. Learn the language.

The stereotype in that culture is the women are supportive and reward masculinity in their males. They enjoy performing their gender role.
 

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There was surprisingly very little time to talk to the women. They would show up a couple minutes before class starts and leave immediately after.
Fitness classes at boutique studios or as a subset of gyms can be a lot like this too. With fitness classes, you get 5 mins before and 5 mins after at best to do approaches. You give up that 45-60 minutes of class for the narrow window of approaching.

I have way more experience with fitness classes than dance classes. I can totally imagine this being a problem in dance classes of all sorts.

Both fitness classes and dance classes have the reputation of having good female-male ratios, meaning more women than men. At the salsa classes I attended, I saw more women far older than I was seeking. With salsa, I had a small sample size and some atypical circumstances.
 

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Over the years, I've gone in for free country & western, salsa, jive dancing. There would be a few nice young chicks, but of course a few young Chads to accompany them. :mad: Meeting 40-something cougars was fairly easy, but what was the point? :rolleyes: The one good thing is that there were always more women than men, so there was a bit of social value just by being a man, LOL.

But at least being in a social circle with such cougars meant that every once in a while a nice 20-something friend/acquaintance/colleague/daughter/niece would tag along, and a good pickup could result. Of course, that required being a regular and somewhat hanging around the cougars. As for the cougars themselves, I was never self-motivated to go for a sexing, but if it had happened organically with a slender one, I would have gone along. The problem is that as I had aged, the cougars stopped seeing me as a guy that would be a good match for her random friend, and started seeing me as a potential man for them.

I remember this one short guy (about my 2%-ile height, but a FrameCel). It was the situation where we'd always encountered each other at the new k3wl place that the local alternative newspaper would mention. I could tell that he knew what an OVER situation it was for us. :mad:
 

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Fitness classes at boutique studios or as a subset of gyms can be a lot like this too. With fitness classes, you get 5 mins before and 5 mins after at best to do approaches. You give up that 45-60 minutes of class for the narrow window of approaching.

I'm consider fapping to the one in the dark pants. :eek:
 

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I used to hang out with a guy that was really into country music dancing. He was not only into it but highly skilled, I'm talking about how the flips and tricks that you'll see online. Anyway, one of the things that I picked up on from him was interesting and may apply here. From what he told me and from what I had observed the women went to these venues to dance and did not go there specifically to meet men. Something I noticed was that many of these women went to these places with groups of friends and often times with a boyfriend or a guy that they had shown up with, whether or not they were in a relationship I can't say. I'm not saying that dancing, whether that be latin dance or whatever, will not be a means to possibly meet women. Anything that gets you OUT of the house and around other people, including women, increases your chances of potentially making a connection with a member of the opposite sex.
 
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