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Jusr came home from a club. I got rejecred by maybe 20 different girls, what I did was simply present my hand or pull them by the hand in attempt to dance with me
I was very comfortable with my body, I know how to dance but maybe my clothes were a bit boring and my beard was not groomed.
All these rejections really bummed me out...is something wrong with me?!

What am I doing wrong? My friend got a kiss close by not doing anyrhing!!!!

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Maybe I should explain:
The girls simply pull their hands out of mine or do "no" with their heads. Some agree to spin under my hand but then it goes nowhere. I'm drunk and so pissed at myself!!!!!!!!
 
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i feel you brother. i know it's harsh but it will pass and you'll be ready for another round and another till you get a # and a date.
 

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Guys, I think someone slipped something to my drink because it was not a regular drunkness...I was super energetic then, now I can't remember most of the nigh, I can barely sleep and I feel very sick.

Anyway, I'm still very bummed out, mostly due to the fact that someone I met in the club started talking about my ex.
 

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Women acting gay again? Nothing new move on and try again it gets funny after awhile
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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1. Less is more. I never had a good night when I did like 15 approaches. My best nights were when I did one or two. Use your gut and only approach girls that you have a good feeling that they might be interested in you.

2. I love to dance too, but I've found that finding a partner to dance with at the bar/club is not easy. Maybe talk to a chick first by the bar area and if the conversation goes ok, then invite her to the dance floor. Just getting random chicks to dance with you with no words is tough.
 

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You should be bummed out. It's God's way of saying "You know you can do better, but there is hard work involved to achieve your potential". Whatever you do, don't take prescription meds for it. Feel your pain. Heartache hurts worse than muscle ache, so prefer the latter.

CerwinVegaFan said:
Jusr came home from a club. I got rejecred by maybe 20 different girls, what I did was simply present my hand or pull them by the hand in attempt to dance with me
I was very comfortable with my body, I know how to dance but maybe my clothes were a bit boring and my beard was not groomed.
All these rejections really bummed me out...is something wrong with me?!

What am I doing wrong? My friend got a kiss close by not doing anyrhing!!!!

Edit:
Maybe I should explain:
The girls simply pull their hands out of mine or do "no" with their heads. Some agree to spin under my hand but then it goes nowhere. I'm drunk and so pissed at myself!!!!!!!!
As much as we miss those days, men can no longer just walk up to girls and grab them by the ponytail and drag them off into a cave.

You need to look for buying signs. She will hold eye contact and smile.

That said, you still should have gone 1 for 20, so something is wrong about either your look or scent. I would recommend going on an organic diet, with lots of Spirulina, but you should do that either way.

Finally, while I've mastered the art of getting "untouchable" women's phone numbers, I have never in my life had any luck in dance clubs. Probably because they couldn't hear me. Sometimes in regular bars girls will drag me on the dance floor, and I'll go, but dance clubs are a whole different vibe.

IMO dance club girls are 10 times raunchier than strippers. They often essentially do guys (in an equally shady, equally drugged-out, equally crowded) room, for free, who they've never spoken a word to. Credit to the guys who can pull it off, but most of them seem bisexual to me, and if you are over 25 forget it.
 

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The club was suuuuper crowded (worse than sardines in a can, seriously) and the music was super loud, I also went with mini earplugs to protect my hearing so I couldn't hear anything even when trying to talk.

I was focused on girls only for the first couple of hours, then my favourite DJ group came and I just went dancing crazy and having fun with myself like there's nobody there but me.

I came home at 5:00am and went to to work at 7:30am feeling really bad, I came home and slept a little more, watched a few motivational videos and now I feel I'm ready to go out again! Gonna hit the bars tonight!
 

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mate , you have to get back on the horse and try again

My experience with many years of nights out clubbing is that there are some nights it just aint happening. Other nights, you can do no wrong

There is a bit of a spiral about nights, both positive and negative. If you start off well with girls early in the night, your confidence and swagger increases and that helps you with other girls throughout the night. If you start off with some rejections, that dents your confidence and other girls throughout the night pick up on that.

I will say if one thing isn't working, you should change it up. E.g. if your working the dancefloor and that's not happening, try working the area around the bar. If it aint happenin in one nightclub, go to another one and reset.

I've have often done very well finding a spot where every girl has to pass by to get to the female toilets.
 

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What is your goal? Kiss close? F close?

If kiss, then go for it, if **** then go for it.

I make out with 10 chicks a night easily. When there was a big party with lota of girls, i made out with 30 girls easily.
 

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"Just go for it"? I'm telling you the girl doesn't even want to hold my hand, you want me to jump on her and kiss her?
 

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CerwinVegaFan said:
"Just go for it"? I'm telling you the girl doesn't even want to hold my hand, you want me to jump on her and kiss her?
She doesnt want to cuz she is mirroring you. If she feels you want to kiss her like a man, she will want to.
 

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Couple thoughts here:

1) Dance floor is a trap - I've heard a pretty even split b/w DJ's who think the dance floor is an absolute trap and will leave you feeling rejected...and the others who think it is the absolute best way to get laid at the club. I am of the former. I'm not opposed to dancing with girls to game them; however, i dont think approaches should be done on the floor for the most part. Myself...i've had more experience meeting girls at other parts of the club/bar and then leading them to the dance floor and then proceeding to dance/makeout

2) If you're going to approach girls on the dance floor, i find that the animalistic approach works the best. Simply go behind them and start grinding them. To make it a little less creepy, start by placing your hand on her hip or lower back so she knows and then move towards her. Sounds creepy....but the line between creepy and smooth is horribly, horribly thin.

Be aware of this: THE GIRL-DANCE-APPROVAL-EYECODE-LOOK. You know how girls always dance in groups facing each other with their backs facing everyone else? This is for a number of reasons. First- it makes it easiest for them to ignore/reject the dozens of chodes by simply staying turned away from them. But perhaps most importantly is THE LOOK that they give each other.
Ever wonder how a girl knows how to reject you when you come up behind without having even seen you? It's because she makes eye contact with her friend directly across from her and "eye-code"s her to tell her whether the guy is a chode or not.

3) Momentum - this is basically what Peterpack is saying. I find that there's a momentum built when you're having a positive night. Same with negative. This is what many PUA's call "being in state". I have nights like you where i get like 10 rejections and nothing pans out. I also have nights where I feel like The Man and i'm talking to dozens of girls, making out with several, pulling numbers, etc.

It's hard to get out of your head when you're having a bad night. Personally, i HATE going out alone. I simply wont go to a bar unless im meeting at least a couple peeple there. I feel much more comfortable and it gives you much more social proof and confidence when you have several groups of friends you can go back to after being rejected. However, im very introverted so i feel somewhat uncomfortable at a club regardless.

4) ALCOHOL - This is a no-brainer (hah that was punny), but seriously... pay attention to how much you're drinking. I'm not one of those people who is all like "you're NOT a true PUA/DON JUAN/ PICKUP MASTER unless you game completely sober!!". Alcohol is cool and i feel like a moderate amount can help me substantially. But therein lies the problem. You always FEEL like it's helping you. But when you get to a certain point you're just another drunk chode that thinks he is smooth but is actually just creepily hitting on everything in sight.
 

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BraddH said:
I make out with 10 chicks a night easily. When there was a big party with lota of girls, i made out with 30 girls easily.

Wait a second, I'm scratching my eyes here, did I read that right?

You make out with a minimum of 10 different chicks PER NIGHT and sometimes as many as 30 PER NIGHT?

Damn BraddH, I think you might be the G.O.A.T.
 

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apprenticedj said:
Wait a second, I'm scratching my eyes here, did I read that right?

You make out with a minimum of 10 different chicks PER NIGHT and sometimes as many as 30 PER NIGHT?

Damn BraddH, I think you might be the G.O.A.T.
I'm not calling bullsh!t NECESSARILY...because i do respect you BraddH...but not only is that a lot, i also question whether that is even smart to do within the same venue... Yes it's good preselection to be seen making out with other girls (esp if you're gaming 9's and 10's), but at some point you become THAT GUY. I've gone to house parties where i've made out with at least 3 or 4 girls during the duration, but at a certain point i think it makes you look too "thirsty" as the kids would say. I will concede that a house party is different from a club in that many people are generally in the same social circle. But i mean unless you're just going around making out with girls just to entertain yourself....

But 30? C'mon maine. I have a hard time believing that. Most people are only at a bar/party for like 3 hrs avg....That's a new girl every 6 minutes. Again, not trying to diss you or anything, but that sounds like hyperbole
 

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I'm not calling bullsh!t NECESSARILY...because i do respect you BraddH...but not only is that a lot, i also question whether that is even smart to do within the same venue... Yes it's good preselection to be seen making out with other girls (esp if you're gaming 9's and 10's), but at some point you become THAT GUY. I've gone to house parties where i've made out with at least 3 or 4 girls during the duration, but at a certain point i think it makes you look too "thirsty" as the kids would say. I will concede that a house party is different from a club in that many people are generally in the same social circle. But i mean unless you're just going around making out with girls just to entertain yourself....

But 30? C'mon maine. I have a hard time believing that. Most people are only at a bar/party for like 3 hrs avg....That's a new girl every 6 minutes. Again, not trying to diss you or anything, but that sounds like hyperbole
Respect you also. When I make out with lots of girls, you're right, it is just to entertain myself. I go to bars everyday, and trust me when there is a big event with lots of girls, I can be there for more than 6 hours.

Most make outs happens in less than 30 seconds, sometimes even 5 second. So in average it takes me 12 min to kiss a girl. Sometimes I make out with 3 girls in the same set in less than 2 minutes just to entertain myself. Sometimes I make out with a chick and then get bored of her and infront of her I grab a chick and make out with her in less than 10 seconds, and so on, you get the idea. My current girlfriend, I made out with her within 5 second. No she is not a slut. I can tell you details about her why she is quality (off-topic so I won't say if u don't want to know) and why she was so attracted to me at that moment (had a battle infront of 200 people, and me and my crew killed every crew there was). Everything just to entertain myself, i always go out to have fun. To understand a little better why this works for me so well, read on..

Also, I have danced ever since I was little, so you might get why chicks love to make out with me. I'm not trying to talk big, but in my city, I'm known as the guy chicks want to get with (great dancer, great soccer player, great athletic body, good looking, average height, social proof and so on..). So it is much more easier for me, I guess.

Check out les twins, I dance as good as them.
 

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Thanks for the tips everyone, I really can't imagine myself kissing a girl in 5 seconds, especially when every 6 thinks she's a ****ing 10.

Went out to a bar yesterday, less than 10 seconds in I opened a two-set by playing the lying game where loser buys the winner a drink, making them lose but they didn't buy the drink...I think I wasn't "firm" enough or whatever, I bailed out after two minutes (ran out of stuff to say).
My game was very smooth anyway, i saw the girls were giving me lots of IOIs which was a big ego booster and never felt so confident in my life talking to girls i don't know, I just need to learn what to do after the opener! :)

No more sets were opened because I was asked to leave after 20 minutes for not ordering enough drinks (yeah, disgusting!)

I also found that I am completely fine being sober, I am naturally confident and outgoing.
 
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CerwinVegaFan said:
I was asked to leave after 20 minutes for not ordering enough drinks
This is bogus. I would start looking for a new place to hangout--Yelp is your friend.
 
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