reddit: There's not enough quality men to date OPINION

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I feel like this is an unpopular opinion but it needs to be said: there aren't enough quality men to date which is why women are struggling to find partners and aren't participating in dating.

Sure, not ALL men there are some good guys out there but not enough to make sure most women are partnered. I don't know why we feel like we're all skirting around saying this.

The thing is, realistically, most women want variations of the same thing. We want a guy with a job, whose nice, and decent looking (some wiggle room here as we all find different things attractive) and who we also have feelings for and things in common with. Someone we enjoy spending time around. Kind of like a friend we also want to have sex with. It's my opinion it shouldn't be that hard to find this. It's not asking for too much. If you're a semi functioning adult you will check most of these boxes.

Yet, most men don't want serious relationships that is why the dating scene is ****ed up. It's not that us women are doing something wrong and neither are these men necessarily. They just don't want relationships. My thing though is that I don't feel like I should feel like I have to have sex with these guys if the situation isn't turning in my favor like at all. That's why I don't date. I've had too many mid-ugly guys try and be slick and play me because I thought if I gave them chances it would turn in my favor. Nope.

Anyways, this is my two cents. And I'm not saying that all couples are perfect and have all these qualities, but yeah.

Edit: Replying to comments about men not being 'ready,' for relationships. That's fine they don't have to be ready. I just won't be ready to have sex with them then. :)
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" Yet, most men don't want serious relationships "

Most men dont want relationships with 304s. Why buy the cow if guys can get the milk for free? Better give them a d@mn good reason.



" It's not that us women are doing something wrong "

But you did something wrong. You gave up the goods to a bunch of dudes before dtr. Basically, you rode the carousel.



" Men not being 'ready,' for relationships. That's fine they don't have to be ready. I just won't be ready to have sex with them then. "

Too late for this. You already have "a reputation". High Value Men will not entertain you. High Value Men will not give the gf label to a girl if its common knowledge she has given up the goods without the gf label to other guys in the past. Why deal with you when they can get ONS with hotter girls while searching for a girl that´s actually worth the gf label. Only Low Value Men with Scarcity Mindset (Cucks, AFCs, Betas, White Knights, Captains Save a h0 etc) would go along with it.
 
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There are enough men, just not the men they want. A female 5 does not even notice her male 5 counterpart.
Bingo!!!

20 years ago it wasn't like this, social media has really made some females delulu

same with men, I see 5/10 men crying about not getting 10s and 9s.
Are you talking about Incels or those lame dudes on reddit?
 

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Both, you have a lot of dud single men out here that think they deserve a submissive 9 or 10 because they call themselves alpha or sigma and live off of historical men dominance.
I know this guy who lives with his parents, is jobless, is in his 30s, smokes weed all day and thinks he deserves a dime cause he's a great guy who is romantic.

LMFAOOOOOOO
 

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I know this guy who lives with his parents, is jobless, is in his 30s, smokes weed all day and thinks he deserves a dime cause he's a great guy who is romantic.

LMFAOOOOOOO
And if he were the right kind of deadbeat, he’d have one.
 

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And if he were the right kind of deadbeat, he’d have one.
As a guy who did the "Hobosexual game in 2010" during a brief stint of unemployment, it wasn't the proudest era of my life
I just personally feel less of a man if I had a woman take care of me
I've seen it firsthand guys walking on eggshells not wanting to piss their girlfriends off cause they don't wanna get kicked out of the apartment
 

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I've seen it firsthand guys walking on eggshells not wanting to piss their girlfriends off cause they don't wanna get kicked out of the apartment
I was the first name on the leash of our apartment and when my wife divorced me she moved out and bought a house outside Amsterdam, figured I would do some housing exchange to live close to her 'for the kids' (who went to school in walking distance of my apartment). I stayed in the apartment, wrote a letter to get the rent lowered and got subsidy for the remainder of the rent.

Nobody will get me to sleep on the streets - I did three nights on the Amsterdam streets in my research for In Pocket, but I'm glad I don't have to live like that for real.
 

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There are plenty of men worthy of relationships in the West who have been overlooked.

I agree that there are also men who feel entitled to women, but the amount I'd argue is far less when compared to entitled women. Your average 5'9, 60k a year decent looking guy is NOT pining away for some super model, he likely just wants a gf/wife that isn't bitchy and fat.

Men's standards of women are much lower than women's standards of men. Always have been... The guys calling themselves alpha/sigma unironically are ridiculed. Most men I meet in real life have expressed very fair preferences of women which are not unreasonable when contrasted with what they themselves have to offer.

Many women do exist in the West who have entirely unrealistic expectations for men which simply will not be met. However, when you go out outside and actually engage with women you find this behavior isn't as common as it is portrayed online. Does it still exist? Absolutely. Has feminism/gynocentrism created it? yes it has. Alongside that, we see lots of weaker, feminine men lacking in a spine which only adds fuel to the fire as they have been conditioned to defer to women and their imperative... Women will also lower their standards suddenly when the right guys comes along, they do it all the damn time.

Angry deluded women and angry deluded man have always existed, but the current 'gender war' has exasperated the problem and social media has spread it like wildfire. There are issues on both sides. but anything from Reddit (especially this particular sub) should be ignored as it is more or less rage bait to any well adjusted person.
 
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