Recovering Jerks, read this

alboh

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I'm starting to get frustrated with this website because it seems to have been overrun by a bunch of losers so bitter at their lack of success with women that they insist all women are evil or "b1tches" or whatever. It's getting increasingly disgusting to read this stuff. It's making me paranoid of girls and I'm afraid I'm turning into a jerk. I had a great thing with a girl a while back that could have been an awesome relationship, but I ruined by being a jerk for no reason and trying to pull a bunch of half-baked mind games. Onyl after she lost interest in me did I realize that just being myself and catching myself if I felt like I was falling for her too fast would have sufficed. I feel like it will actually take me a long time to recover a positive, non-paranoid attitude towards women.

Is anyone else here in the same boat? What is the best way to get rid of this unhealthy paranoia and distrust towards girls?
 

MadaMadaDame

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I had a great thing with a girl a while back that could have been an awesome relationship
um yeh? how do you say so? Too vague. Wanna give some examples of why you think it is an awesome relationship.

I ruined by being a jerk for no reason and trying to pull a bunch of half-baked mind games.
How so? your post is too vague. You don't give examples, how are people to reply to your post if they don't know what's happenning in your life.

Is anyone else here in the same boat?
I know what you mean about the stuffs you've been reading recently in the forums. I feel yah, but as long as you know your limits you ARE allowed to break rules to fit your lifestyle. I love reading posts by Giovanni Casanova where he has his belief of persistence is the key to success. Of course there is limits to persistence. Like If a girl gives negative signal more than twice to yah then you should probobly try to move on.

Read old post, try searching, normally those are what counts. ( i said normally)
 

AlwaysExcel

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I totally feel ya Alboh. I've been studying seduction for a couple years now. This forum actually made my game worse for awhile this year because of the reasons you listed. I too dated a girl (my first HB9) and wrecked it because I was playing too hard. It really fvcked with my head this summer.

I did several things in response. First, I rejected the negative suspicious mindset. A defensive frame is bad inner game IMHO. If I don't even acknowledge someone's power to hurt me, I take away most, if not all, of their power. ESPECIALLY when it comes to the mirage-like world of social perceptions.

I took a break from the forum to cut off the negative noise and to stop any new info from coming in. I just operated on what I had read so far and choose to reject the negative theories. I explored the source of my bad feelings, fears, and beliefs that were polluting my inner game. I hit the field FOR FUN (I fostered minimal stress about the number of approaches I did or their frequency. But I pushed myself just hard enough to keep me from becoming lazy). I experimented with techniques and theories rather than dogmatically clinging to stuff as the "GOLDEN KEY."

I would try to limit thoughts about theory during the sarge. I tried to focus on theory only when I encountered an obstacle. Then I went with whichever solution presented itself in that moment (the solution coming from the theory I already knew). If none presented itself in time, I'd analyze the experience AFTER the evening or whatever was over. NOT while I was still approaching. I would try to have a solution for next time.

Something clicked at the end of the summer and I feel that I've risen past that miserable plateau I was on. I'll post a LR soon that talks more about this breakthrough and the experiences that accompanied it. I'm not a guru. I don't get laid whenever I want yet but I get laid more than I used to. I'm just a dude trying to sort this shyt out for himself. I hope my experiences help you.

Oh, I must give credit to mASF (not to start a boring forum war thread). AFTER my inner game changed, I started reading more on that forum than here. It made a lot more sense after my breakthrough. The theory was progressive and not as rehashed as a lot of the threads on here. However, if you don't regard techniques as replaceable tools and experiments, if you're still looking for the magic foolproof seduction plan, I could see how mASF could be extremely frustrating since it's waay geekier than this place.
 

seabreeze

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This is really interesting guys. Thanks Alboh for having the courage to post it.

Can you guys explain to me a little how you guys were acting like jerks and how do you know for sure that it contributed to you messing up your recent relationships? Do you feel like you really hurt the girls you were dating?

Thanks,
Seabreeze:)
 
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