Really amazing, I had a 100% success in approaching yesterday night at the club

[Who Dares Win]

Yesterday I've been at the club, approached about a dozen of girls wheter alone or with their friends and I had a 100% success rate in getting ignored :crackup:

Never happened in my life but I have to say that I felt it in the air and probably on a subconscious level I shown that I was either worried or low in energy.

You are probably familiar with that gut sensation you have that its not going to get good cause either you're out of shape or you get negative vibes from the environment, well I decided to try anyway with that result.

I also think one of the problems is that it was 10 days since my last sexual intercourse and approx around that time I get the most horny and impatient while after few days in a dry spell it tends to stabilize.

Today I'll try again but with a different attitute, instead of going for any decent ones in range, I'll move and see if there is any which gives sign of interest altought this way its much more demanding in energy since you have to gauge instead of just going like a kamikaze, as I said many times I have more bravery than patience.

Anyone can relate?

 

[guru1000]

WDW, if you don't mind, share a few of those rejections with the community. Many here can learn from your experiences, and others can critique.

As I've said before, rejections are greater than successes, as the "pings" hone your game the most.

 

[yun-j]

Do you mean you got into conversation with thr girls but they refused to accept your advances. As in they declined to get sexual with you or even go home with you?

 

[guru1000]

Congratulation on doing what 99.9% of all people would not, being rejected is not fun at all and i understand your point of view.

But still you approach and even worst you approach some with there friends.

Balls trump success every time. No regrets for my failures. Only regrets for those opportunities I didn't have the balls to seize.

 

[Eternal_water]

As I've said before, rejections are greater than successes, as the "pings" hone your game the most.

I disagree, rejections mean Im still a virgin at 24.

Whenever I go out my friends pull with ease, sometimes they get hit on without actually approaching anyone. Girls look at me with a mixture of fear and disgust.

"pings" have honed nothing and I have no idea how to attract the opposite sex.

 

[guru1000]

Rejections are the multiplier of the base. If the base is zero, the net is zero.

Don't hijack this thread. Create a thread in the forum, listing your stats and deficiencies, and you will be given sage advice in how to increase the "base," and cure this virginity disease.

 

[marmel75]

I work door to door sales so I get rejected all the time. Also get hit on by hot MILFs quite often as well. if I wasn't married and didn't love my job so much I'd be having ungodly amounts of sex right now. I get more or less propositioned 2-3 times a week at the door. even had my Pilates instructor coming at me pretty hard this morning, lol...I think sales and women have very clear similarities.

You get rejected a lot, but once you become hardened to it, you could care less, have fun with it and end up turning some of those initial rejections into sales. And obviously you have ones that require little to no work to close.

But people who do sales for a living can basically take all their knowledge in sales and apply it to women because 90% of it is transferable.

 

[amazingswayze]

Rejection is just as important as acceptance!

WDW, if you don't mind, share a few of those rejections with the community. Many here can learn from your experiences, and others can critique.

As I've said before, rejections are greater than successes, as the "pings" hone your game the most.

This is a big idea.
Let's be honest with our field reports and go into detail.
This stuff is important.

 

[Who Dares Win]

WDW, if you don't mind, share a few of those rejections with the community. Many here can learn from your experiences, and others can critique.

As I've said before, rejections are greater than successes, as the "pings" hone your game the most.

No problem, I cant recall all of them but surely the most annoying and impressive.

1)Single girl aged 20-24 decent looking supporting herself on the handrail in the perimeter of the dance floor and looking somewhere there while briefly checking out her phone with a bored face.

I approach with a smile asking her why so bored and she told me that her friends went to dance and left her alone to check out all the bags on the corner, I tell her that she can leave the bags in the jacket depot which is for free, she looks at me and tell me that she is fine then turn toward the dance floor again, I ask her name, she told me and then get silent again, I get the hint and leave.

2)group of girls aged 24-26 all decent looking sitting on a table with all their drinks almost full, none of them is sipping them, I get on the side and talk to two of them ironically asking if the drinks are so bad that they are not even touching them.

One of them says that the drinks are fine with an annoyed voice tone, the other one looks in doubt if to let me open or close so I take the initiative and ask her whats her drink, she tells me but I have no idea, she lifts the drink and let me sip it, then the other girl take back the glass with an aggressive face and pulls it toward her, then looks at the other girl the same way a father would look at his son who p1ssed on the floor.

I notice the bouncer is getting interested in the interaction so I say "enjoy your drinks" and leave the table.

3)two girls aged 18-20, one of them really goodlooking the other one just doable, they are getting their jackets back to leave, I open to the hot one asking how comes they leave so early and she told me that she doesnt like the music, the other one looks at me in doubt how to react so I involve her asking her if she also dislike the music, she said she doesnt care about the music but wants to leave cause she is tired.

Before I can say anything more they rush at the exit.

4)Tall girl in her 30s decent looking smoking alone in a corner, I approach her and ask how comes she is alone and how guys have no taste nowadays, she asks me straight with a bored tone what Im looking for...I tell her that I just wanted to know her a little bit and then decide if it was worth to have a drink togheter, she replies that she doesnt drink....I get the hint and leave.

5)two girls sitting in the bar, hard to tell the age but guess around mid20s, both decent but nothing special, I ask the one sitting close to me if she can pass me the drink list which is on their left, she looks at me with an annoyed face, grabs the bag and leaves the spot.

6)single girl early 20s walking in my opposite direction, we cross eyes and when she walks close to me I gently grab her hand and smile, she smiles back and I ask her why such in a hurry, the same second she is repliying a fat girl shout from a table urging her to go to a mixed group, she leaves.

Cant recall the others clearly but mostly were signs of low interest.

 

[Libreman]

I disagree, rejections mean Im still a virgin at 24.

Whenever I go out my friends pull with ease, sometimes they get hit on without actually approaching anyone. Girls look at me with a mixture of fear and disgust.

"pings" have honed nothing and I have no idea how to attract the opposite sex.

Be honest with yourself - are you a 'sexual being'?

I mean, when you go on errands - do you look like you fvck?

When you go to work - do you look like you fvck?

When you do anything - do you look like you fvck?

You've got to exude sexuality. Girls pick up on these things automatically.

 

[marmel75]

Well, what you are doing is the equivalent of if I was doing sales and I make my initial contact and as soon as I encounter even minor resistance, I say"OK thanks for your time" and walk away. Know how many sales you'd end up with following this process? Not many.

You got to be a little bit more persistent in overcoming initial objections. You know how you overcome a lot of objections? Just keep talking, sometimes ignoring their objection all together. Eventually they will open up and then some of those turn into sales.

You aren't even trying bro. Kudos for approaching but if all you are going to do is introduce yourself and at the first sign of resistance walk away with your head down and tail between your legs, what's the point? You are searching for every salespersons dream...the person looking to buy. Know how many of those you come across? Very few.

You need to stick it out a little longer and just keep talking. You'll find they will start opening up a little more and you'll likely have better results.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You got a really bad night bro reading this all theses women look like stuck up bytches and you could have done without them.

When i was younger and went to club i usually made a move on the women that looked at me, or smiled etc.

But i really know what you mean some of theses women can be real stock up, and turn you down like you are nothing.

I have never been a fan of night clubs for that reason and a bunch of them are lesbiens hahahha.

Surely an annoying night but not that big deal actually, I keep in count that some night it goes great while others is crap, still better to have a night like that one than a day going to the doctor or to some office for paperworks.

Well, what you are doing is the equivalent of if I was doing sales and I make my initial contact and as soon as I encounter even minor resistance, I say"OK thanks for your time" and walk away. Know how many sales you'd end up with following this process? Not many.

You got to be a little bit more persistent in overcoming initial objections. You know how you overcome a lot of objections? Just keep talking, sometimes ignoring their objection all together. Eventually they will open up and then some of those turn into sales.

You aren't even trying bro. Kudos for approaching but if all you are going to do is introduce yourself and at the first sign of resistance walk away with your head down and tail between your legs, what's the point? You are searching for every salespersons dream...the person looking to buy. Know how many of those you come across? Very few.

You need to stick it out a little longer and just keep talking. You'll find they will start opening up a little more and you'll likely have better results.

There is no tail between legs involved here, I dropped those interaction the same way I would asking someone if he has a lighter and getting a no.

Regarding your suggestion to insist, I believe due to my experience that while some resistance has to be expected at the same time attraction is a matter of chemistry and while a girl has to build a wall between the two of you, if she is attracted she will also hide a ladder somewhere.

Also personally I have much more bravery than patience, while I virtually have no emotional fear (I just have the one due to cold logic) I seriously lack patience and the more I grow old the less I have thats why I dont see myself as instisting on a girl which gives no signs of interest and work without even the certainity that is gonna pay in the long term.

Its not even about that particular girl anymore, its about the value of the reward, the chances to get it and the work necessary as much as the annoyment to endure in the process, its actually a rational evaluation.

 

[marmel75]

Surely an annoying night but not that big deal actually, I keep in count that some night it goes great while others is crap, still better to have a night like that one than a day going to the doctor or to some office for paperworks.


There is no tail between legs involved here, I dropped those interaction the same way I would asking someone if he has a lighter and getting a no.

Regarding your suggestion to insist, I believe due to my experience that while some resistance has to be expected at the same time attraction is a matter of chemistry and while a girl has to build a wall between the two of you, if she is attracted she will also hide a ladder somewhere.

Also personally I have much more bravery than patience, while I virtually have no emotional fear (I just have the one due to cold logic) I seriously lack patience and the more I grow old the less I have thats why I dont see myself as instisting on a girl which gives no signs of interest and work without even the certainity that is gonna pay in the long term.

Its not even about that particular girl anymore, its about the value of the reward, the chances to get it and the work necessary as much as the annoyment to endure in the process, its actually a rational evaluation.

I still think you are ejecting too early. Just my opinion tho.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I still think you are ejecting too early. Just my opinion tho.

Actually Im considering what you suggested and trying to think what would have happened in many cases, I think I will try to push some more next time and see what comes but Im afraid it requires much more energy especially when it comes of groups, there its not only a matter of saying the right things but also the timing, could be an interesting challenge.

Do you believe it may be useful in front of a sign of lack of interest to challenge the girl by breaking rapport? or its better to try to build more of it.

In your experience of sales man what did you find works better in case of initial lack of interest?

 

[marmel75]

Actually Im considering what you suggested and trying to think what would have happened in many cases, I think I will try to push some more next time and see what comes but Im afraid it requires much more energy especially when it comes of groups, there its not only a matter of saying the right things but also the timing, could be an interesting challenge.

Do you believe it may be useful in front of a sign of lack of interest to challenge the girl by breaking rapport? or its better to try to build more of it.

In your experience of sales man what did you find works better in case of initial lack of interest?

Well, there are a few things you can try.

You can just say something completely off the wall as in "So are you socially inept all the time or are you just being a b!tch tonight?"

You basically gave her the choice of admitting she is socially inept by not talking or admitting she is being a b!tch...which is something most women HATE being called out on, even if they know they are being one. That should get a reaction, which you can at least move in the direction you want it to go.


You could just look for something unique about her or what she has on and comment on it...something that most guys wouldn't notice. That should get you a positive reaction because you will set yourself apart from most guys by noticing it. Obviously, you'd want to look for this prior to approaching her, and you could even try opening with it. Like "Hey, I really like the way you matched blah blah blah..." Women eat that sh!t up. And it comes off as a genuine compliment not some needy, "you're hot" type of compliment. So you earn double points there.

A reat one is to ask their opinion on something. Could be anything. Make some sh!t up. Be like "Hey, my friend and I were just discussing something and we couldn't agree and wanted to get a woman' opinion on it." then ask whatever you want to ask. Could be a sexual question, relationship question, social question, fashion question, etc...this works really well with groups of women because it will get all of them talking and really have them open up. Once all of them are talking, then the conversation just comes natural. Plus it gives you tons of opportunity to tease them in a playful way on their "opinion". Then when they are all having fun, you say "Hey, it was nice meeting all of you, I've got to get back to my friends." many times they will try and grab you and be like "No, don't leave!" because they are having fun. But you still leave, and watch what happens...some of them will approach you later on because they are intrigued by the guy who has fun, but doesn't stick around and gossip like a woman, and gets back to what he was doing. Doesn't act needy by trying to get their numbers, just goes about his business. They will get at you. I promise.


There is also a sale technique where you dangle the carrot, then pull it away and watch them reach for it. Basically in sales, you just act like there are 20 doors and keep going with different techniques and approaches until you find one that works(which door is unlocked). Will they always work? No, but the best salespeople don't give up easy and are persistent. In fact, this might be the biggest trait of successful salespeople. They force the customer to tell them no more times than the good and many more times than the average and bad ones. Eventually they get the customer to say Yes. It's no different than initially approaching women.

What do I do when I encounter someone with a lack of initial interest? I give them more information so I can enable them to make a better decision. Have the same attitude with women and I guarantee you'll do better.

 

[G_Govan]

Not to discourage but going the "cold approach" route reduces this to a numbers game.

Keep doing it and eventually you'll get a bite.

I tip my hat to those men that do it often, it takes an iron-clad self-esteem to absorb so much rejection. If I could hit a switch to turn off my emotions I'd probably do this all the time, not that I'd need to, but it would be a fun experiment.