Realistic gains.. how much?

MrLuvr

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Realistically, how much should I expect to gain following a consistent routine of exercise and proper diet.

I have seen some wildly differing numbers being thrown about.

I am looking for a gain of about 1 lb of lean muscle per week, is this too much to expect?
 

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If we gained 1lbs / week, we'd be gaining 52lbs a year and within 10 years we would have gained 520 lbs! Obviously that's not realistic.

What kind of gains are you looking at? It all depends.

When you first start working out, with a perfect diet / perfect workout ethic / perfect sleep scheduales, you can gain 30lbs in your first year. It's what we call newbie, or beginner gains.

However, like most beginners, you will probably have a halfass diet, miss workouts, and party, drink / not be consistent. Your dedication will be 100% for a few weeks, and then you'll relapse. Then resume again...then relapse...then resume. With this kind of routine, you'll be lucky if you gain 10 lbs of lean muscle mass in a year.

Newbie gains aside, after 2-3 years of working out, if you gain 1 lbs of muscle mass in a month, it's a good month. With that kind of routine, you're looking at 10-12 lbs of lean muscle mass a year. Which is not to shabby.

If somehow you make it through one day and become a drug experiment, also known as a pro, gains of 4-5 lbs of lean muscle mass in a year will be an accomplishment.

My advice:



1.) Forget about results for now. You are still new to this, and if you focus on the results, you will get disappointed and quit. Instead, focus on your lifts. Keep a journal of the weights you lift, how many times you lift them, etc. Every week, put on a lil bit more weight. Focus on making your lifts go up in weight, and the body will come.

2.) Focus on consistency. Don't miss workouts. Don't miss meals. Don't miss hours of sleep. Be consistent.

3.) Eat as perfect as you can everyday. You can work out all you want, but if your diet sucks, you will not make noticable gains.

4.) Educate yourself. Read the bulking / cutting guides here for starters.


This week is your week of education, and this is your homework:

Go to http://bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.htm and there you can do a search.

This is your homework:

1.) What do carbohydrates do? What is the difference between simple and complex carbs?
2.) What does protein do? What is the difference between whey, casein and egg protein?
3.) What are the 3 basic compound movements that you should have in your workout routine?
4.) Find out what HST is, and be able to describe it.
5.) Find out what HIT is, and be able to describe it.
6.) Find out what Max-OT is, and be able to describe it.
7.) What is failure (in terms of muscle workouts)? What are forced reps, half-reps?
8.) Name me the assigned number of exercises as mentioned in brackets (free weight exercises ONLY, no machines!) for each of these muscle groups:

-arms (biceps, triceps and forearms [4 for triceps / biceps, 2 for forearms])
-legs (4 for quadriceps, 2 for hamstrings, 2 for calves),
-chest (pectorials (name me 6 exercises)
-back (lats - 4/lower back - 2)
-shoulders (deltoids 4 / traps 2)

9.) Why is a post workout protein shake important, and what should be in it?
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
1.) Forget about results for now. You are still new to this, and if you focus on the results, you will get disappointed and quit. Instead, focus on your lifts. Keep a journal of the weights you lift, how many times you lift them, etc. Every week, put on a lil bit more weight. Focus on making your lifts go up in weight, and the body will come.[/color]
this is one of the best pieces of advice you can get
 

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Adding to the above: don't worry, stress, overthink or overanalyse. Enjoy yourself, make sure your weights keep going up, and the rest will come.

It really isn't rocket science, as some people might lead you to believe. It's good clean fun.
 

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i gained 15 pounds in 3-4 months, no exact time though.

Probably half that, is actual muscle, rest is water weight or whatnot.

BUT, this was probably a begginers gain kinda deal, because i stoped working out for a year first.
 

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Hey I finally finished my guide to bulking / cutting......Ill post it in a few days.........

Covers EVERYTHING and a little FAQ to boot.........

Ill set up the link once its up
 

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I think the average guy who starts training and eating well (that means more than you think you can eat) can put on 15 to 20lb in there first year and look good.

Notice didn't say lean body mass. The thing is the average skinny teenager can just do heavy squats and presses, eat all sort of not so clean food and still pack on mass that looks very good.

After that first year, suddenly things get much harder. The diet needs very careful consideration as does attention to overtraining issues and rest.
 

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FWIW...

I started working out Feb. of this year, started at about 145lb. I'm 5'10" and weigh around 165 now. So 20lbs. in 4 months is pretty good I guess, considering I haven't been the most consistent in my workouts or diet. Not all of that is lean muscle mass of course, but I can definately say I look better now than I did earlier this year.

I wouldn't worry about how much weight you'll gain when you're starting out. After a couple months you'll start to see changes in your body, and that's motivation enough to keep you going that you won't really care about the details
 

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I think 10lbs per year (of pure muscle, without fat/water weight gains) maybe a bit more is realistic for a beginner. After 2 years 20lbs, thats good isnt it? ;)
 
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