ELMER_GANTRY
Don Juan
I see a lot of guys on here, even out in public, trying to copy all these pick up artists material. They say all these quotes and try to memorize scripts when most of the time it isn't working for them. These guys think that just because they read a PUA book, or look at a website, that they will become a master with women right off the bat. They read a little bit of it, think they have it all down, then they go out and fail, They get rejected, then they become frustrated, while they scratch their heads and wonder why it didn't work.
The reason it's not working, is because you are trying to copy someone else, and what they profected to work with women. You are not being original. You are trying to copy someone else's game, and you come off looking stiff and phony. sometimes even like a loser. Just because it works for someone else, doesn't mean that it will work for you. A perfect example is baseball players. Every pitcher and hitter are different. They all have different wind ups and batting stances. They all don't copy each other because what works for one guy, won't work for the other, but the end result is the same. The pitcher throws strikes and the hitter gets hits. Albert Pujols doesn't have the same batting stance as Derek Jeter because his stance won't work for him. They are two different hitters but the end result is the same, they both can hit very well. This is the same for being a PUA. Not everybody's method should be copied and be the same, because it won't work for everybody, that is why you should develop your own game because the end result should be the same, resulting in scoring lots of women.
These big time pick up artists didn't just read some old books, throw on an outfit, walk into a bar, and start picking up chicks. That is what a lot of these guys are trying to do and it isn't working for them. These PUA guys spent a long time mastering their craft. They got rejected many times while practicing on chicks. They found out what worked and what didn't work through trial and error. They calibrated their game until they had it down perfect and went out and played their game to score chicks. They might of used bits and pieces of stuff they learned from others, but this is what they learned and practiced themselves through experience and knowledge they gained. This is their own material that they learned and used. That is why instead of relying on other people's methods, you should craft your own game to fit you, and have your own game that works for you. Just because some PUA guy got a lot of women and says his method works, doesn't mean it can work for you, it works for him because he made the stuff up.
Another reason guys are failing with these PUA methods are that their material is widely known. It isn't secret anymore like it used to be. This material has been out for a long time and so many guys are trying to use it. Guys buy the books, read the websites and all are using the same material to try to score chicks. So, if all these guys are trying to use the same stuff to pick up women, this material won't be successful when some chicks already know the game plan.
If a chick is really hot, (even some average ones) she will get hit on be many guys in one night when she is out. She will also get hit on by many guys wherever she goes. She hears the same recycled lines and PUA stuff all the time. After she hears the same stuff again, she ignores the guy spitting his phony game, she leaves, and he wonders why it all went wrong. If all these guys like you, reading these PUA manuals go out and try to pick up the same chicks, you can bet that they heard them many times before. That is why you are failing. You're not original. You try to use other guys stuff because you think it will work for you, because you are afraid, or you don't want to incorporate your own unique game, so you rely on other methods to work, when most times they don't. Be original and create your own game. You can use bits and pieces of what they do, but if you have your own style, your chances of meeting women and scoring will greatly increase.
Last night I was out, and saw this guy trying to game this good looking chick. He was trying to be smooth, but you could tell he memorized a script just by the way he was talking, it was very obvious. So, I was watching him just to see how good he was. Somewhere in the middle of his memorized script, the chick threw him off, she threw him a curve ball, and it didn't go according to his script. His face went blank, he looked like he was lost, like a deer in the headlights. He was searching for something to say, and couldn't find the right words. His mind was probably going like crazy. He needed his script but couldn't follow through. He tried to make some small talk but that didn't work, and the chick soon caught on to his game. He looked embarrassed, then excused himself while he looked humiliated and walked away. Now if this guy used his own game, he probably would of been better off and might even of got her number instead of using some other guys stuff that didn't work, while he screwed up, humiliated himself, and lost out using a memorized PUA prewriiten script.
If you want to know a good trick to use, here it is. Play off the other guys mistake,. That is what I did. After that guy made a fool of himself, I walked up to the chick, made fun of the guy for using his failed memorized PUA script, we both had a good laugh, and had a great convo based on my own style that I use. It's not memorized scripts and what some guru tells me to do or say. It's stuff that I learned through my own experience and knowledge. That works for me, but maybe not for someone else, so that is why you should develop your own game that works for you, and you will be better off with women.
The problem is that nobody wants to be original. They all want to copy someone else and do what they do. They don't want to take the time to learn the ropes, and become good at meeting women on their own. They want to crack open a book and try to be successful that way because they all say that way works, so they think it will work for them. Then when it doesn't, they become frustrated, upset, and have negative attitudes toward themselves. Those PUA artists had huge a success using their own stuff. They didn't copy some other guy, they did it on their own. That is what you should do. Then, after they used it for so long, they all wrote books to cash in on all the money that guys will pay to try to be successful with women. So you have all these guys going around using the same PUA stuff, chicks know the routines and it doesn't work for them. It might for some, but not for a lot of them.
If you have no game at all, reading someone else's game won't help you at all, because you will come off as a loser, stiff, fake, phony and look worse than if you were original. You have no knowledge or experience with women in real situations, and just by looking at a few chapters, and reading some other guys success stories won't make you a good PUA. You have to learn and experiment with your own style on your own. If you want to add some of their stuff then you can use it to tweak your game, you can, but just don't rely on someone else to tell you how it is done, when you never did it yourself. That won't work, and you will quickly become frustrated and develop a poor mental attitude. That is why you should get a good mind set first. It all starts with the mind my friends, that is a fact, get a good inner game going, and self confidence first. Then go out and practice on developing your own game through trial and error, like the other guys did, you will be better off, and will have better results in attracting and scoring women.
The reason it's not working, is because you are trying to copy someone else, and what they profected to work with women. You are not being original. You are trying to copy someone else's game, and you come off looking stiff and phony. sometimes even like a loser. Just because it works for someone else, doesn't mean that it will work for you. A perfect example is baseball players. Every pitcher and hitter are different. They all have different wind ups and batting stances. They all don't copy each other because what works for one guy, won't work for the other, but the end result is the same. The pitcher throws strikes and the hitter gets hits. Albert Pujols doesn't have the same batting stance as Derek Jeter because his stance won't work for him. They are two different hitters but the end result is the same, they both can hit very well. This is the same for being a PUA. Not everybody's method should be copied and be the same, because it won't work for everybody, that is why you should develop your own game because the end result should be the same, resulting in scoring lots of women.
These big time pick up artists didn't just read some old books, throw on an outfit, walk into a bar, and start picking up chicks. That is what a lot of these guys are trying to do and it isn't working for them. These PUA guys spent a long time mastering their craft. They got rejected many times while practicing on chicks. They found out what worked and what didn't work through trial and error. They calibrated their game until they had it down perfect and went out and played their game to score chicks. They might of used bits and pieces of stuff they learned from others, but this is what they learned and practiced themselves through experience and knowledge they gained. This is their own material that they learned and used. That is why instead of relying on other people's methods, you should craft your own game to fit you, and have your own game that works for you. Just because some PUA guy got a lot of women and says his method works, doesn't mean it can work for you, it works for him because he made the stuff up.
Another reason guys are failing with these PUA methods are that their material is widely known. It isn't secret anymore like it used to be. This material has been out for a long time and so many guys are trying to use it. Guys buy the books, read the websites and all are using the same material to try to score chicks. So, if all these guys are trying to use the same stuff to pick up women, this material won't be successful when some chicks already know the game plan.
If a chick is really hot, (even some average ones) she will get hit on be many guys in one night when she is out. She will also get hit on by many guys wherever she goes. She hears the same recycled lines and PUA stuff all the time. After she hears the same stuff again, she ignores the guy spitting his phony game, she leaves, and he wonders why it all went wrong. If all these guys like you, reading these PUA manuals go out and try to pick up the same chicks, you can bet that they heard them many times before. That is why you are failing. You're not original. You try to use other guys stuff because you think it will work for you, because you are afraid, or you don't want to incorporate your own unique game, so you rely on other methods to work, when most times they don't. Be original and create your own game. You can use bits and pieces of what they do, but if you have your own style, your chances of meeting women and scoring will greatly increase.
Last night I was out, and saw this guy trying to game this good looking chick. He was trying to be smooth, but you could tell he memorized a script just by the way he was talking, it was very obvious. So, I was watching him just to see how good he was. Somewhere in the middle of his memorized script, the chick threw him off, she threw him a curve ball, and it didn't go according to his script. His face went blank, he looked like he was lost, like a deer in the headlights. He was searching for something to say, and couldn't find the right words. His mind was probably going like crazy. He needed his script but couldn't follow through. He tried to make some small talk but that didn't work, and the chick soon caught on to his game. He looked embarrassed, then excused himself while he looked humiliated and walked away. Now if this guy used his own game, he probably would of been better off and might even of got her number instead of using some other guys stuff that didn't work, while he screwed up, humiliated himself, and lost out using a memorized PUA prewriiten script.
If you want to know a good trick to use, here it is. Play off the other guys mistake,. That is what I did. After that guy made a fool of himself, I walked up to the chick, made fun of the guy for using his failed memorized PUA script, we both had a good laugh, and had a great convo based on my own style that I use. It's not memorized scripts and what some guru tells me to do or say. It's stuff that I learned through my own experience and knowledge. That works for me, but maybe not for someone else, so that is why you should develop your own game that works for you, and you will be better off with women.
The problem is that nobody wants to be original. They all want to copy someone else and do what they do. They don't want to take the time to learn the ropes, and become good at meeting women on their own. They want to crack open a book and try to be successful that way because they all say that way works, so they think it will work for them. Then when it doesn't, they become frustrated, upset, and have negative attitudes toward themselves. Those PUA artists had huge a success using their own stuff. They didn't copy some other guy, they did it on their own. That is what you should do. Then, after they used it for so long, they all wrote books to cash in on all the money that guys will pay to try to be successful with women. So you have all these guys going around using the same PUA stuff, chicks know the routines and it doesn't work for them. It might for some, but not for a lot of them.
If you have no game at all, reading someone else's game won't help you at all, because you will come off as a loser, stiff, fake, phony and look worse than if you were original. You have no knowledge or experience with women in real situations, and just by looking at a few chapters, and reading some other guys success stories won't make you a good PUA. You have to learn and experiment with your own style on your own. If you want to add some of their stuff then you can use it to tweak your game, you can, but just don't rely on someone else to tell you how it is done, when you never did it yourself. That won't work, and you will quickly become frustrated and develop a poor mental attitude. That is why you should get a good mind set first. It all starts with the mind my friends, that is a fact, get a good inner game going, and self confidence first. Then go out and practice on developing your own game through trial and error, like the other guys did, you will be better off, and will have better results in attracting and scoring women.
