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Pushing Through Rejection Without Creepiness

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In many of my approaches lately, I have noticed many women are just almost running away saying No, but the second I put up even a bit of chase or protest (I'm not just gonna blown out with a No in cold approach) they submit.

I think a big part of cold approach right now is creating a willingness in her to give you a clean slate... To disassociate you with her bad experiences and often you just need to bring it up, like "Hey, that's not fair, I feel you should be giving me a clean slate" this needs to come off as matter-of-factual, not begging, so if your feeling that resistance cropping up, address it immediately, not her, but the objection she is providing.

In sales, an objection is a term used to describe a situation where a customer is trying to object to a piece of your presentation and an objection can be just about anything, yet as the sales person, our job is to overcome the objection and sell our product and in dating that product is ourselves.

Many guys feel personally slighted by an objection, but at the end of the day, you have to have faith in the product your selling; how can you expect anyone else to have faith if you can't... Although sometimes people do show that faith when we don't have any in ourselves, those situations are almost always tragic, leaves the person feeling used.

Why do they feel used? Because previous men didn't set any boundaries or limits, then the woman begins to feel everything she has for everything you have is a trade she wants to make, especially when they own nothing.

If you are going to push, don't do it in any sexual context or it will obviously end badly.

Pushing through an objection using reason, it might separate you from the other salesmen, especially if your making it entertaining for her.
 

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You can sell like a used car salesman or you can sell like a consultant... The two styles are worlds apart.
 

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Ive always went with whatever came after "Hey how's it going"
I think a real key is not to take rejection personally.
Very very few men take initial rejection personally. We take it personally after we’ve wasted going on a couple dates or wasting a month of our time on you and THEN you reject us in some halfassed way. It’s not the rejection that pisses them off, it’s the wasted time on a girl that knew she wasn’t 100% into you but still chose to keep seeing you and waste your time.
 

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Very very few men take initial rejection personally. We take it personally after we’ve wasted going on a couple dates or wasting a month of our time on you and THEN you reject us in some halfassed way. It’s not the rejection that pisses them off, it’s the wasted time on a girl that knew she wasn’t 100% into you but still chose to keep seeing you and waste your time.
The rejections on the "one date, no sex, no second date" dates obtained from swipe apps have the potential to be painful. Since many men can obtain more dates from swipe apps than real life approaching even with lousy ratios, these failed dates can add up fast, both with taking a monetary loss and the ego damage from the rejection. The reason more dates can be obtained is due to the law of large numbers.
 

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The rejections on the "one date, no sex, no second date" dates obtained from swipe apps have the potential to be painful. Since many men can obtain more dates from swipe apps than real life approaching even with lousy ratios, these failed dates can add up fast, both with taking a monetary loss and the ego damage from the rejection. The reason more dates can be obtained is due to the law of large numbers.
Yep. And the weird thing about those one dates and rejections is the women are very aggressive at getting to know you prior. They text you non stop leading up to the date, they even act fine on the date which is even more confusing. You’ll even kiss them several times, not just once and then they come at you later with the “no spark” nonsense. I’ve had them even plan on a second date with me days after the date only to cancel the day of the second date and not want to see me anymore. That’s a mindfvck. The women online know how to pull you in and make you get to know them fast and it’s impossible to play the “only text to set up a date” game with them because if you do that you will NEVER get a date in the first place. If you won’t text them all day they’ll find someone who will.
My experience in the past with online dating and my bad experiences probably have a lot to do with why I don’t approach women now and when they are obviously flirting with me I’ll dismiss it because in my mind I’m thinking “yeah she’s interested today but what about tomorrow? Why bother?”
 

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Good point. As far as 1 month in its best not to let it bother a guy and just keep learning game.
If it’s constantly happening though then that’s where the issue comes. These girls have dated some cold soulless dudes in the past, you think they haven’t picked up traits from their personalities? Learning a little game isn’t going to save you from that. My problem has never been getting women, I can get women all the time, my problem is screening for the ones that are into me vs the ones that are just pretending.
 

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If it’s constantly happening though then that’s where the issue comes. These girls have dated some cold soulless dudes in the past, you think they haven’t picked up traits from their personalities? Learning a little game isn’t going to save you from that. My problem has never been getting women, I can get women all the time, my problem is screening for the ones that are into me vs the ones that are just pretending.
It's not just the mimicking of behavior, but teaching... Women don't need to communicate because they know what they all want, influence and a damning narrative for their enemies, it's the common goal. Women who only have guy friends failed that because no self esteem, instead surrounds herself with bandaids
 
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