PUA does 5000 approaches with no success!

[MatureDJ]

 

[Max Baker]

Even I'm not that bad.

 

[Chronocidal]

PUA does 5000 approaches with no success!

Two major assumptions often involved in social-skills advice of any kind are that positive reference experiences are inevitable and that most rejections will provide useful information for use as feedback. Few people in the role of such an advice-giver dare to admit that those assumptions might not be true.

Does your video have any in-field footage of the PUAs in question? What did it show you?

 

[bat soup]

I doubt it´s even possible to do that many approaches and learn nothing. Probably the reality is closer to 5 than 5000. A person that really approached 5000 women would no longer fear rejection.

 

[characternote]

I doubt it´s even possible to do that many approaches and learn nothing.

'learn' is probably the wrong word (not that one should even need to 'learn' to hold eye contact and stuff lol)

But yeah, this is about attraction; It's about whether you are her type or not. Does she think you're hot or not. No amount of 'learning' will change the results, although I guess if one hasn't been socialised they might need to learn to read the room and realise earlier when she's not into him and to eject.

But one could be doing everything perfectly and still get rejected 300 times in a row if he's not that handsome and maybe older, and he's hitting on super hot 18 year old cheerleaders lol. He might tell himself 'Hmmm...I wonder what I did wrong. What can I learn from that rejection. Maybe my approach angle was off a few degrees and I need to start with a neg??' without realising he never stood a shot. And it goes the other way too, where people attribute their success on a girl too a cold read or self amusement or whatever, but in actuality, she was just into him and liked how he looked lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you do something that many times and don't learn how to improve and get some success then either you are completely oblivious or simply have no ability to do so.

After a minimum of 500 he should have at least gotten 1 person to bite.

 

[Mike32ct]

The sad part is “pickup” can be addictive even for a guy who is being rejected 100% percent of the time. It’s like the gambling addict who is convinced that his luck can still turn around.

Hopefully he quit after 5,000.

 

[SW15]

If you do something that many times and don't learn how to improve and get some success then either you are completely oblivious or simply have no ability to do so.

After a minimum of 500 he should have at least gotten 1 person to bite.

Some people have no ability at all. He's claiming 20 approaches a week for 5 years. 20 approach weeks aren't that difficult for short period of time, but unsustainable for 5 years. That's close to 3 approaches a day. If he lives in NYC or London pre-pandemic, 3 approaches on the street isn't that difficult. If he's going to the bars regularly pre-pandemic, a 3 approach night in a bar is easy to achieve. To get 3 approaches in on a hiking/walking path or grocery store with any social calibration is going to take a 2 hours a day.

Even 200 consecutive rejections is going to really be traumatic and de-value one's self worth. Also, given that Millennials are snowflakes, that's difficult to imagine someone barreling through 200+ rejections.

The guy would be better off just devoting the approaching time to weight lifting. Getting huge muscles will get some women to give you their vag with minimal effort if you are average height or taller.

 

[Mike32ct]

I like Facelms, but who has time to watch a multi-hour yt video?

 

[King Lion]

Insane....But, on the positive side - At least he hasn't picked up a charge - Yet!

 

[corrector]

With numbers like then even if you were crude and asked for the order with everyone you are going to get a hit here and there. If you begged around you would get a pity outcome or something. Ballsy approaches verses lame approaches. After 50 failed lame approaches in a row then I'm stepping up the ballsiness, calculations of where and whom I'm approaching and social calibration of them.

20 approaches per week that's a WARM-UP. You always have to warm-up because the first FEW approaches in any given day are going to suck. Your nerves get the better of you and you are coughing up words out of your mouth. Warm-ups should not count as real approaches.

 

[King Lion]

The guy would be better off just devoting the approaching time to weight lifting. Getting huge muscles will get some women to give you their vag with minimal effort if you are average height or taller.

Exactly...Look good - Feel good - Smell good - And the females will approach him!

 

[MatureDJ]

I like Facelms, but who has time to watch a multi-hour yt video?

I always have projects orcleanup around the house or on my computer (e.g., building my genealogy spreadsheet) where I can be minimally invested in the video. I actually could use more videos from him.

 

[Lookatu]

 

[bat soup]

I met a guy who told me that he had approached 2000 girls and had no success. He was a bit socially awkward and in his country the women are difficult (holding out for marriage etc). But since I didn't see how he was approaching women or what exactly he was saying, I don't know what he was doing wrong. What I suspect is that what he counts as an approach is just talking to a woman.

 

[corrector]

I met a guy who told me that he had approached 2000 girls and had no success. He was a bit socially awkward and in his country the women are difficult (holding out for marriage etc). But since I didn't see how he was approaching women or what exactly he was saying, I don't know what he was doing wrong. What I suspect is that what he counts as an approach is just talking to a woman.

But technically its that though. As long as you dont chicken out too early if she is showing enough interest then it should all count.

 

[bat soup]

But technically its that though. As long as you dont chicken out too early if she is showing enough interest then it should all count.

I think if you don't make a move then it doesn't count. I think guys are often thinking they got rejected when the girl didn't even know that they were interested because they didn't make it clear.

 

[bonesmahoney]

Taunt him all you want but that incel f*cker at least tried, which is a lot more than many of you can say, especially during this fake crisis.

 

[Kotaix]

Y'all are still actually taking this troll bait seriously?

 

[corrector]

I think if you don't make a move then it doesn't count. I think guys are often thinking they got rejected when the girl didn't even know that they were interested because they didn't make it clear.

Women make up their minds about guys 3 seconds after seeing them. They think they are hot and every guy wants them.